Asus P5E//Maximus Formula

wolfy87

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Are these two boards support 1600FSB CPU`s and 1200Mhz memory?


I was going to buy Asus P5E, but I heard of vdrop under load and high nb temps!
-Can this be fixed with some newer bios, without pencilmod?

Is there a voltdrop issue with Asus Maximus Formula (non SE edition)?
any expiriences with it?


This is my first build, so I`m really freaked out to get the right components...thanks upfront
 
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I'm trying to find one of the members that bought a p45 board that has very little vdrop... can't remember who it is... i'll get back to you when i find out and tell you what board he bought to correct the vdrop/vdroop problem
 

GundamF91

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vdrop is part of the Intel spec. there's no "correcting" it. some boards deal with it better than other boards due to internal power design. but they're all designed for certain parameters. There's no need to "correct" what's factory spec,
 

wolfy87

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oh great...I thought it was some manufacturing error... What are the cons of vdrop feature?
I also heard that people had negative expiriences when they enabled loadline calibration?
 

GundamF91

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The con of vdrop comes when you overclock and had to overvolt. So for example, my old e4500 needed 1.34v to run 3.1Ghz. but that's the VID needed, not necessary the actual power fed to CPU. Different boards have differing vcore to achieve this, and some do better than others (due to quality of design and components). With my Abit IP35-E, 1.34v VID at load is actually a vCore of 1.288v (reported by CPU-z). This is a pretty big drop. With the better designed Abit IP35-Pro board, the same 1.34v VID results in a load vCore of 1.31v. So you see the Pro is a better board than E, at least in how the power is efficiently fed to CPU.

Things like load line caliberation probably further helps to reduce it, but it may simply pad the vCore to make it look like it's not as bad. So if this is the case, with 1.288v as real vCore, your system may not be as stable as when it's 1.31v, even though you told the motherboard to feed the same 1.34v VID to the CPU. So to remedy this, what you can do is to manually set VID as 1.36v, so the vCore at load would be increased. Of course, that means your CPU is subjected to higher vCore when it's not at load. This could negatively impact the CPU's longevity. So basically the better board design, the less of an offset you need.

Both P5E Deluxe and Maximus II have 16 phase power. I think the main difference is in the BIOS ability to handle more detailed spec for Max II. Also there are some built in features for factory set overclocking in Max II. But fundamentally, both boards are pretty high-end and should do as well as any P45 boards can do in terms of distributing power.
 

wolfy87

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Thanks Gundam! cleared a few things for me...
Does this means also that vDrop will be smaller if I buy better PSU, my plans were Corsair TX 650w... (systemm is light, e7200, one VGA, one HDD)
 

Majic 7

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The problem on the Rampage X48 (and others) with a 45nm cpu is that overclocked you can run Prime forever with no problems but under no load, browsing or something, you get a crash. May be fixed with latest bios, 406, only seen one post confirming a fix. Asus uses some nasty thermal pad like stuff, need acetone to remove it, under the north and south bridge. After a month or so of use this hardens and is really hard to get off. It's not so bad if you take the bridges off before using it and use thermal compound. If it is already hard you can use a can of circuit freezer on the bridges to ease removal. I put mine together, still waiting for a power supply, because I wanted to make sure everything works before voiding a warranty.
 
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