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Elvis2

Platinum Member
Jan 28, 2001
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Speed (Ghz): 3.2e @ 4.0
Socket: 478
Idle Temp(C): 35C
Max Temp(C): 41C
Ambient: 26C
Mobo Idle Temp(C): 31C
Mobo Max Temp(C): 33C
Cooling Solution: swiftech mcp-650 pump/danger den tdk wb/black ice extreme rad/1/2" id hose w/swiftech radbox and thermaltake adj. 120mm fan
Case: Antec sx 835
No of Case Fans: 2 antec 80mm
Mobo: asus p4c800e - deluxe
Monitoring Software: asus probe / mbm 5
Notes: averages about 8C hotter than my 2.8C @ 3.5 ghz.
 

Krusher

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Feb 19, 2003
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I'm thinking about making one last upgrade to my socket 478 mobo, and then I'll reuse my 2.4B elsewhere. (Yes, this mobo will handle 800MHz FSB processors, I just have not used them yet.)

So it sounds like the "Prescott is too hot" is a bunch of hype? The 3.4EE (Extremely Expensive) is just that; so it leaves me with a Prescott or Northwood. I do overclock a bit, but like to stick with better air cooling and no Vcore bumps if I can help it.

I am not sure whether Intel is done with socket 478 at 3.4GHz, but my guess would be yes.

EDIT: It appears from Intel's web site, that the 3.2, 3.4, and 3.6 478-pin processors come in a "F" version (F stepping?) which support 64-bit extensions. Perhaps I should wait for that, since I'm buying new anyway.

It also looks like the 3.4 Prescott's are pretty new (for S478, that is), as there is no mention of it on this forum yet that I could quickly find.

Thanks.
 

Flip504

Member
Jan 3, 2005
28
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Speed (Ghz): 2.8E @3.7
Socket: 478
Idle Temp(C): 52
Max Temp(C): 62
Mobo Idle Temp(C): 28
Mobo Max Temp(C): 32
Cooling Solution: Zalman CNPS7000B-CU
Case: Lian Li 6077
No of Case Fans: 3 intake + 3 exhaust
Mobo: IC7-Max3
Monitoring Software: AbitEq
Notes:
 

kranky

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
21,019
156
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Speed (GHZ): 2.8Ghz overclocked to 3.2Ghz, FSB at 900mhz
Socket: LGA775
Idle Temp (C): 38
Max Temp(C): 52
Mobo Idle Temp(C): 28
Mobo Max Temp(C): 36
Cooling Solution: Stock HSF
Case: Ancient full tower Supermicro SC-750A
No of Case Fans: 2 x 80mm... 1 on front bottom (intake), 1 on top rear (exhaust)
Mobo: Asus P5GDC-V Deluxe
Monitoring Software: Asus Probe
 

BonzaiDuck

Lifer
Jun 30, 2004
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Paratus --

We've exchanged useful remarks recently.

This thread popped up on the "most recent" page for a brief time yesterday or day before, then sank down into the pile.

I am approaching a decision point, so my interest is a bit self-serving. But I went through the posts looking for specifics about (our) P4P800 ASUS mobos.

Am I wrong? Or are the CPU temps lower for all air-cooled configurations: considering stock versus heatpipe cooling and other factors?

As to the usefulness of mobo sensors and ASUS Probe, I've been monitoring independently with front-panel thermal sensors, and the combination leads me to conclude (tentatively) that the mobo sensors in ASUS systems are not that far off. A lot of people on various posting forums seem to note consistently that the P4P800 runs a bit cooler.

This would bode well for a P4P800-Prescott combination. I suggested in other posts that "lock-free" provides a wider range of OC'ing options, and I'm slowly headed toward replacing an absolutely wonderful 3.0C @ 3.6 Ghz -- Load temp 42C with a Prescott 3.2E C0 stepping.

 

tgx78

Member
Jan 18, 2005
125
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Speed (GHZ): 3.2E GHz
Socket: 478
Idle Temp (C): 59
Max Temp(C): 70
Mobo Idle Temp(C): 38
Mobo Max Temp(C): 43
Cooling Solution: Stock HSF
Case: don't know
No. of Case Fans: none
Mobo: MSI 865 PE Neo2
Monitoring Software: MSI Core Center

Do i need after market HSF?
 

ssvegeta1010

Platinum Member
Nov 13, 2004
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tgx78- probably, but some case fans may also help.

Try some low RPM 120mm fans (if your case can mount then of course)

Whats your ambient case temp?
 

tgx78

Member
Jan 18, 2005
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Originally posted by: ssvegeta1010
tgx78- probably, but some case fans may also help.

Try some low RPM 120mm fans (if your case can mount then of course)

Whats your ambient case temp?

How do you measure ambient case temp? Our office temp. is around 22c - 24c (vancouver)

My 3.2E is now hitting 76c under full load. I am wondering if I should remove stock thermal pad

and use something else. I will be getting some case fans tommorow.

should I get two fans for Intake and exhust?
 

dev0lution

Senior member
Dec 23, 2004
472
0
0
Speed (GHZ): 3.4
Socket: LGA775
Idle Temp (C): 52
Max Temp(C): 65-66 (Prime95 torture test)
Mobo Idle Temp(C): 39
Mobo Max Temp(C): 43
Cooling Solution: Stock HSF w/AS 5
Case: Antec Plus1080AMG
No of Case Fans: 4 x 80mm
Mobo: Intel D915PBL
Monitoring Software: intel desktop utilities hw monitor
 

de8212

Diamond Member
Jan 2, 2000
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3.2E
Socket: 478
Idle 32 (C)
Windows 36 (C)
Haven't played any games
Case Temp 25 (C)
Stock HS/F
Case Antec Super Lanboy
One 120 mm intake
One 120 mm exhaust
Mobo- Gigabyte GA-81k1100
Monitoring - MBM5





How do I find out the temp of the mobo?
 

brad84cnc

Junior Member
Dec 1, 2004
15
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Speed (Ghz): 3.6E @4.05
Socket: 775
Idle Temp(C): ~38
Max Temp(C): 55
Mobo Idle Temp(C): 28
Mobo Max Temp(C): 30
Cooling Solution: XP-120 with a Panaflo L1 120
Case: Antec P160
No of Case Fans: 1 intake + 1 exhaust
Mobo: Asus P5P800
Monitoring Software: AiBooster
 

ssvegeta1010

Platinum Member
Nov 13, 2004
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Originally posted by: tgx78

How do you measure ambient case temp? Our office temp. is around 22c - 24c (vancouver)

My 3.2E is now hitting 76c under full load. I am wondering if I should remove stock thermal pad

and use something else. I will be getting some case fans tommorow.

should I get two fans for Intake and exhust?

I really dont know how to find case temp if you dont have a sensor.

From what I see, case fans would help. To test, open up the side of the case and put a normal room fan there. If that drastically drops your temps, then 1 intake and 1 exhaust fan would help. And remember 120mm fans can move much more air at low noise then 80mm fans (if noise is your concern).

If the fans arent dropping your temps, then you may benefit from removing the stock thermal pad (as you said) and applying Artic Silver 5. You may even want to buy a higher quality heatsink. I suggest the larpger 120mm copper heatsinks from Zalman (7000, 7700).

 

WolveBane

Member
Nov 17, 2004
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Changed system...

CPU: LGA 775 3GHz @3520.0 MHz
Idle Temp(C): 38c
Max Temp(C): 61c
Mobo Idle Temp(C):32c
Mobo Max Temp(C): 38c
Cooling Solution: Zalman CNPS-7700 Cu
Fans: 2 80mm intake @ 2500 rpm, Thermaltake Jungle512 HeatSink' Fan 90mm (80 bracket), 80mm mod'd CPU on GeForce 5300 @ 2500 rpm
HDD: Seagate SATA 120 Gb + CoolerMaster AeroGate II
Mobo: ABIT AA8-DURMAX
Monitoring Software:uGURU
MEM: 2 x Corsair DDR2-SDRAM PC4300 - 256 MBytes

Got Max Temp from 4 instances of 'CPU Burn-in' running for 30 mins.
Since OCGuru controls fan speed based on temperature, so its Pretty Damned Quiet compared to having the ThermalTake Jungle512 CPU HSF; and lower temps
 

zanexiv

Junior Member
Jan 30, 2005
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System put together 6 days ago

Speed (Ghz): 3.0E (no overclock for temp ranges)
Socket: 478
Idle Temp(C): 31c/87f
Max Temp(C): 49c/120f
Mobo Idle Temp(C): 21c/70f
Mobo Max Temp(C): 22c/71.5f
Cooling Solution: Aerocool X-Raider HSF
Case: Raidmax... Lower end: http://www.newegg.com/app/View...tion=11-156-018&depa=0

No of Case Fans: 8
Mobo: ASUS P4-P800E updated bios (1004 I think...)
Monitoring Software: Asus Probe and Everest HOME edition

Notes: Achieved max temp using prime95, photoshop radial blur on 1600x1200 image, and windows calculator calculating the sine of a VERY large number.

I know these temps seem really low. Ambient temperature of the room was approximately 69-70 degrees farenheit. I also have a Coolmax Tarugus 400W power supply which sports a 120mm fan also exhausting a lot of hot air right off the CPU.

Additionally, both Everest and Asus Probe gave the same readings, and I'm inclined to think that they are pretty much within 2 degrees of the bios temps. Bios reads about 2 degrees higher on a fresh restart, but has anyone with this board noticed that if you watch the temp in the bios, it goes up and up and up about 7-10 degrees celcius? My idle in bios actually increases from about 33/34 to 41/42 over a period of about 10 minutes. My guess is that either it is nedlessly using the cpu for some calculation, or that speed stepping in the OS causes the CPU to run a bit cooler at idle... No real educated guesses there.

I have screen shots if anyone would like them. I don't have anywhere to host the images, so if you request, I can e-mail them to you. I have idle temps, and max temps with windows task manager showing maxed CPU usage for the whole visible history. Was running the applications for max temp approximately 10 minutes.

~Zanexiv
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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Good temps!

I've also got the Coolmax 400W Taurus.

How do your rails look. All of mine are high except the 12 V which I've seen drop down to about 11.7.

I do like the 120mm fan though. Helps keep the temps down.
 

zanexiv

Junior Member
Jan 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: Paratus

I've also got the Coolmax 400W Taurus.

How do your rails look. All of mine are high except the 12 V which I've seen drop down to about 11.7.

I do like the 120mm fan though. Helps keep the temps down.


Yeah, I'm a little disappointed with the 12V rail. I haven't seen it at 11.7, but have gotten as low as 11.82 or something like that. Mine really jumps around. Right now it's reading 11.97... 11.916... 12.038... 11.85... The rest are all about 2% high. But I don't think it will be causing any problems. Nowhere near 10% which is the red flag. Oh, and sorry about my spelling in the first post... "Tarugus?"... what the hell? Must have been looking at my backpack or something (targus...)

I like the 120mm fan as well. It isn't overly loud, and moves quite a bit of air. I keep mine on high all the time because the added sound doesn't really matter with all the other fans I have. Actually I'm surprised how quiet the comp is with 8 case fans. I know it's a little overkill, but they were really cheap, so I thought "what the hell..." Seems to have paid off though.
 

shira

Diamond Member
Jan 12, 2005
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Originally posted by: Sc4freak
Speed (GHZ): 3.4Ghz
Socket: LGA775
Idle Temp (C): 45-50
Max Temp(C): 60-70
Mobo Idle Temp(C): 32
Mobo Max Temp(C):
Cooling Solution: Stock
Case: ThermalTake Tsunami Dream
No of Case Fans: 2, both 120mm
Mobo: Asus P5GD2 Deluxe
Monitoring Software: Asus AI Booster, Speedfan

Speed (GHZ): 3.4Ghz @ 4.0ghz D)
Socket: LGA775
Idle Temp (C): 50-55
Max Temp(C): 68-75
Mobo Idle Temp(C): 41
Mobo Max Temp(C):
Cooling Solution: Stock
Case: ThermalTake Tsunami Dream
No of Case Fans: 2, both 120mm
Mobo: Asus P5GD2 Deluxe
Monitoring Software: Asus AI Booster, Speedfan

Hey, Sc4freak. The overclocked system above says "Stock" cooling. Is that a typo?

I was researching building a system almost exactly like yours, based on the 3.4 Prescott, the ASUS PFGD2 Deluxe MB, and XP-120 cooling. But reading about the special cooling needs of Prescott systems (not just the CPU) scares me. Did you do anything special other than put the XP-120 on your CPU? I read that the XP-120 blocks air-flow to other components on the MB - not a good thing. What temps do you get with the system you have listed in your sig?:

"Pentium 4 3.4 Prescott @ 4.0ghz
XP-120 + Enermax 120mm, 2300RPM 63CFM fan
ASUS P5GD2 Deluxe
1GB Corsair TwinX XMS2 PC5400 DDR2 RAM @ 626mz, 4-3-3-1
GeCube X300 256mb @ 470/500 (normally 325/400)
Western Digital 200GB 7200RPM HD
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream Case + Thermaltake 400w PSU
Samsung SyncMaster 957DF "

 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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Originally posted by: zanexiv
Originally posted by: Paratus

I've also got the Coolmax 400W Taurus.

How do your rails look. All of mine are high except the 12 V which I've seen drop down to about 11.7.

I do like the 120mm fan though. Helps keep the temps down.


Yeah, I'm a little disappointed with the 12V rail. I haven't seen it at 11.7, but have gotten as low as 11.82 or something like that. Mine really jumps around. Right now it's reading 11.97... 11.916... 12.038... 11.85... The rest are all about 2% high. But I don't think it will be causing any problems. Nowhere near 10% which is the red flag. Oh, and sorry about my spelling in the first post... "Tarugus?"... what the hell? Must have been looking at my backpack or something (targus...)

I like the 120mm fan as well. It isn't overly loud, and moves quite a bit of air. I keep mine on high all the time because the added sound doesn't really matter with all the other fans I have. Actually I'm surprised how quiet the comp is with 8 case fans. I know it's a little overkill, but they were really cheap, so I thought "what the hell..." Seems to have paid off though.



Everyone seems to bad mouth Coolmax but you know I can't find a single post anywhere that says an actual owner has had problems with it.
 

dieselfrog

Member
Dec 31, 2004
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Speed (GHZ): 3.2Ghz
Socket: 775
Idle Temp (C): 28
Max Temp(C): 57
Mobo Idle Temp(C): dunno
Mobo Max Temp(C): dunno
Cooling Solution: Stock
Case: P.O.S Powmax
No of Case Fans: 3 80mm (+2 on the PS)
Mobo: ECS
Monitoring Software: Motherboard Monitor
Notes: used Prime95 to max out temps. I have a very slight overclock to 3.279 for the time being.
 

zanexiv

Junior Member
Jan 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: Paratus


Everyone seems to bad mouth Coolmax but you know I can't find a single post anywhere that says an actual owner has had problems with it.

Yeah, at: http://secure.newegg.com/app/C...DEPA=0&item=17-159-023
It looks like one person out of about 50 had a problem with it, and he doesn't mention everything he's trying to power in addition to playing his game, nor whether or not he is overclocking anything... So far I'm happy with it for my purposes, and that's all that really matters.

I think part of Coolmax's problem may be their name. It just doesn't seem to invite seriousness... Cool to the Max with Coolmax! or something.... I'm just not feelin it. But I digress...

~Z
 

imported_icehot

Junior Member
Oct 13, 2004
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Speed (GHZ): 3.4Ghz
Socket: 775
Idle Temp (C): 38
Max Temp(C): 54
Mobo Idle Temp(C): 28
Mobo Max Temp(C): 32
Cooling Solution: Zalman CNPS7700-CU Ultra-Quiet CPU Cooler
Case: A-Top XBlade Deluxe Gaming Case
No of Case Fans: 2x80mm (front and side window) + 1x120mm at rear
Mobo: Asus P5P800
Monitoring Software: Motherboard Monitor (whatever the latest version is)
Notes: Just got this rig setup, had the stock cooler with white goo for the thermal paste for 2 days before i got the zalman, and the temps have dropped by a good 10C by using it. Not tried overclocking it yet, not sure I will bother really, my memory runs at 400MHz dual channel, with 2.0x2x2x6 timings, and well everything runs really quick, and I like the temps where they are. Noise levels? Well I cant really hear it to find out
 

zanexiv

Junior Member
Jan 30, 2005
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Nice temps. Just thought I'd mention that I did overclock my setup to 3.37 GHz (~13%), and the temps didn't really go up... only about 2 degrees celcius.... The only thing holding me back is the RAM really... It's just Corsair Value Select, and it won't go much higher than 475 without failing prime95. But who am I kidding, like I really need another 5-10%.
 

G Q

Member
Dec 16, 2004
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Speed (Ghz): 3200MHz
Socket: 775
Idle Temp(C): 40-42C (Idle Fresh Boot @ 36-38C)
Max Temp(C): 48-54C
Mobo Idle Temp(C): 25-32C
Mobo Max Temp(C): 32C
Cooling Solution: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 w/ Arctic Alumina Thermal Compound
Case: Lian Li PC6070A
No of Case Fans: 3 stock + 1 PCI exhaust (Two X mm in front; One Y mm in back + 1 CoolMax/Whispersis PCI)
Mobo: Asus P5AD2-E Premium
Monitoring Software: Asus Probe, SpeedFan
Notes: Additional Specs: Enermax 2.0ATX 485 Watts PSU, BFG 6800 GT OC PCI-e, 74GB 10KRPM WD Raptor, NEC DVD-RW Drive
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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Anyone think it would be a good idea to get this stickied? I see at least one thread a day that says "Is my prescot the right temperature?"
 
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