There is a reason we have a tip system in place....there is also are reason they are not paid min. wage...let's just get rid of commissioned people too.
Carls Jr...you fucking serious?!? Pretending to be nice? Why leave your house?
I thought I posted in this thread before, but anyways:
1. If the restaurant states upfront that there is an additional 18% charge on top of the cost of what you order, then agree to pay it or leave. Just pretend the costs on the menu are 18% higher.
2. Otherwise, I don't see the need for tips. Servers should at least be paid minimum wage. If they don't make enough in tips, the restaurant should pay them more until minimum wage is reached.
3. The server takes my order, brings the food and drinks (with a pitcher please, I can refill my drink myself) to the table, occasionally picks up what few dirty plates are on the end of the table, and brings the bill. That is all I ask, and I don't see how that service warrants extra money. When I go to Carls Jr. they take my order, bill me, bring my food to the table, and even sometimes pick up dirty or unused trays. I don't tip them. Servers cosntantly bugging me and pretending to be so nice to try to get a good tip are annoying.
Then why would you want that, as a customer? The staff would have a reduced incentive to offer good service.
Banned for Bad Tipping
She probably didn't tip her first couple of times. Then they made her tip 18%. Then they ban her because she's cheap.
I see nothing wrong with that. They can refuse to serve her. That's the owner's choice.
Ok. For all the tards that did not read the article.
1. The woman walks in the place
2. BEFORE SHE EVEN GETS SERVED, the restaurant tells her that she is required to tip 18% to be served there
3. At this point, the lady can either enter into the contract stated above, or she can walk out of the restaurant.
4. If she does not agree to the contract stated above (18% gratuity added to the meal), then the restaurant has every right to refuse her service.
This lady has been going to the restaurant for over a year. She has been leaving crappy tips for over a year. Now the restaurant is getting sick of it. They require her to enter into a stated contract before they will serve her. The restaurant has every right in the world to refuse service.
Just like you have a right to go in there and slight the restaurant time after time, the restaurant has the right to tell you the fuck off unless you tip a decent amount.
It's fucking carrying plates of food JFC. Complain to the owner and have the server fired if they don't perform with "good service."
For you who are shitty tippers, go get f***ed and stay home and cook, assholes.
Tipping is such bullshit to begin with.
"Here I'll give you some money and in exchange please do your job with a minimal level of competence and do me the courtesy of NOT adding your bodily fluids to my food."
I hope this restaurant is driven out of business.
did you not read the part where on the menu it says mandatory tip for 6+ people and the joint charged her that tip when there was only 2 in her party?
The reason they do that is because they never know when they are gonna get stiffed, and it hurts much more from a larger party with a big bill. They figure they can take the risk with smaller parties. In this case, though, they know from past experience that she's gonna stiff them, so I see no problem with changing the rules for her.
huh? according to the story she got charged a mandatory tip for a group when it was just her and her friend. she paid it but that is bullshit. i know i would not have paid it.
SHE WAS TOLD SHE WILL BE CHARGED A MANDATORY TIP BEFORE SHE EVEN SAT DOWN!!! BY CONTINUING TO EAT THERE, SHE CONTRACTUALLY AGREED TO PAY THE TIP THAT THE RESTAURANT NOTIFIED HER OF BEFORE SHE EVEN WAS SERVED!!!
How does this not compute?!?!
This has absolutely nothing to do with the "mandatory tip for a group". There was a mandatory tip for her and her alone.
She is known as a shitty tipper, so before she even gets served they tell her she will be charged an 18% tip. There is nothing wrong with this.
She probably didn't tip her first couple of times. Then they made her tip 18%. Then they ban her because she's cheap.
I see nothing wrong with that. They can refuse to serve her. That's the owner's choice.
No one, period, has to tip if they don't want. But I am quietly confident if that lady was White, they'd never try to pull that spit.
was just about to post that.
she is a regular who doesn't tip. after numerous times of poor tipping, the manager tacks on the 18%, regardless of her party size.
she raises hell. how typical.
No one, period, has to tip if they don't want. But I am quietly confident if that lady was White, they'd never try to pull that spit.
oh so tipping is required now even if the service is shitty?
SHE WAS TOLD SHE WILL BE CHARGED A MANDATORY TIP BEFORE SHE EVEN SAT DOWN!!! BY CONTINUING TO EAT THERE, SHE CONTRACTUALLY AGREED TO PAY THE TIP THAT THE RESTAURANT NOTIFIED HER OF BEFORE SHE EVEN WAS SERVED!!!
How does this not compute?!?!
This has absolutely nothing to do with the "mandatory tip for a group". There was a mandatory tip for her and her alone.
She is known as a shitty tipper, so before she even gets served they tell her she will be charged an 18% tip. There is nothing wrong with this.
Where does she state that the service was shitty?
Wow, lawyer wannabe here, there's no contract unless someone actually signs something, you don't sound smarter by spamming CONTRACTUALLTY OBLIMIGATED, everyone just laughs at you.