Why am I not surprised its a Japanese restaurant?
I still think that they serve cat meat in their chicken fingers, cats eat chicken, but some cats I attempted to feed the meat out of a chicken finger to wouldn't touch it.
Finally the owner banned all police...it was a pretty major deal. Business actually improved due to no hostilities inside the place.
Dense much? No one is required to work any job. Slavery is against the law.
Let's be clear here. I'm not talking a cocktail and a glass of wine, I'm talking about several bottles of wine that can come to $300+ easily. Are you seriously going to tip $60 for somebody to open some wine for you, ON TOP OF the tip for the food? I live in NYC, always have, and every restaurant I've been to here and anywhere else in the country has had separate areas on the bill for food and alcohol. I also don't know anyone who tips 15-20% on wine, so you must be hanging with some high rollers.Tipping on alcohol is a gray area, but lots of people do tip on alcohol.
Been to Europe and lived in Asia for many years, and the service does not compare. Period. Unless you're a regular, or the staff thinks you will tip becuase you look like an American, the service will not be anything close to an average restaurant in the states. TBH, over the last few years I've seen a trend of adding mandatory tips to the bills at mid-high end restaurants in Asia. It's usually only 10% or so, but's it's still a rip-off since the staff probably doesn't see it half the time, and since the tip is guaranteed the service can end up being just as pathetic as the low end restaurants.Have you been to Europe and Asia? America does have slightly better service than those places, but the slightly better service is not worthy of an extra 15-20% of my bill. In Europe, they don't shoo and hush you to get the fuck out with a receipt on your table after all the dishes are delivered. You can chill out as long as you like without getting a dirty look.
Until now, you have always admitted that you never tip b/c they only deserve minimum wage and that the owner will make-up the difference. Sounds like you finally changed your tune or your friends were tired of cover your part of the tip.
And no kidding, you shouldn't pay for bad service or at least complain about it. What do you tip for average service?
I've started tipping more cus I've been to a couple places that actually deserved it. Went to a little bar with some people and they hooked us up and I tipped them good. They refilled our drinks without even having to ask and were friendly and everything was good and they were busy so I tipped her for keeping up. I won't tip for regular service. Just throwing some plates on my table and the person coming over every once in a while and just being ok doesn't deserve a tip at all. That's in their job description and they are doing it exactly as it's described and for that they get their minimum wage.
Let's be clear here. I'm not talking a cocktail and a glass of wine, I'm talking about several bottles of wine that can come to $300+ easily. Are you seriously going to tip $60 for somebody to open some wine for you, ON TOP OF the tip for the food? I live in NYC, always have, and every restaurant I've been to here and anywhere else in the country has had separate areas on the bill for food and alcohol. I also don't know anyone who tips 15-20% on wine, so you must be hanging with some high rollers.
Been to Europe and lived in Asia for many years, and the service does not compare. Period. Unless you're a regular, or the staff thinks you will tip becuase you look like an American, the service will not be anything close to an average restaurant in the states. TBH, over the last few years I've seen a trend of adding mandatory tips to the bills at mid-high end restaurants in Asia. It's usually only 10% or so, but's it's still a rip-off since the staff probably doesn't see it half the time, and since the tip is guaranteed the service can end up being just as pathetic as the low end restaurants.
Went to Applebees last weekend.
I've started tipping more cus I've been to a couple places that actually deserved it. Went to a little bar with some people and they hooked us up and I tipped them good. They refilled our drinks without even having to ask and were friendly and everything was good and they were busy so I tipped her for keeping up. I won't tip for regular service. Just throwing some plates on my table and the person coming over every once in a while and just being ok doesn't deserve a tip at all. That's in their job description and they are doing it exactly as it's described and for that they get their minimum wage.
Wow, what a loser.
Yeah, this guy is complete trash.
The restaurant pays its employees considerably less than the prevailing wage (often less than minimum wage) based upon the expectation that customers will tip. Consequently, the food is offered at a lower price than it would be if employee wages were included.
If all people were parasites like zerocool84, food prices would be significantly higher to account for employee wages. Luckily for him most other people aren't losers, so he can continue to leech the system like the deadbeat thief he is.
I've started tipping more cus I've been to a couple places that actually deserved it. Went to a little bar with some people and they hooked us up and I tipped them good. They refilled our drinks without even having to ask and were friendly and everything was good and they were busy so I tipped her for keeping up. I won't tip for regular service. Just throwing some plates on my table and the person coming over every once in a while and just being ok doesn't deserve a tip at all. That's in their job description and they are doing it exactly as it's described and for that they get their minimum wage.
In China and Japan
Good Service = Customer pays the bill, no tip (I had them chase me down because they thought I accidentally left my money)
Bad Service = Customer doesn't pay
BTW, what we consider normal service in the US would not fly in Asia. Something as simple as a teacup (small things) left unfilled indicates server incompetence and warrants an apology from the manager. Hell, even at McDs you have workers who takes your trash away.
Let's be clear here. I'm not talking a cocktail and a glass of wine, I'm talking about several bottles of wine that can come to $300+ easily. Are you seriously going to tip $60 for somebody to open some wine for you, ON TOP OF the tip for the food? I live in NYC, always have, and every restaurant I've been to here and anywhere else in the country has had separate areas on the bill for food and alcohol. I also don't know anyone who tips 15-20% on wine, so you must be hanging with some high rollers.
These servants aren't doing anything more special than the people at Olive Garden, yet they get a $120 (from $500+ dinners) for basically the same work. The only difference i've seen is that they know more about food in general vs just memorizing the menu at lower end places, but I couldn't really give a shit about that.
Yeah, we are in a suburb thats about 20-30 mins west of the city. Black people here dont tip, or tip like shit (5% tip).
If only fleabag hadn't been banned yesterday we could have a perfect trifecta.
You are so right. I was a waitress through high school and college... you can't expect a good tip for sub-par service. Tipping is discretionary, however, if service is average and someone a patron doesn't tip I think the restaurant should be able to reserve the right to ban those patrons as it's not fair to servers only making a couple of dollars an hour to do back-breaking work to receive nothing.
Hmmm...I don't recall saying that I provided crappy service except to those who deserved it (and some ungrateful assholes most certainly do). In fact, I was often complimented by managers and customers alike on my excellent service. I never expected 20%, but was often given over that. I never claimed that I was the 'best in the bizz'. Seems you are assuming a lot. Oh and BTW, I do have a career now, have for quite a while. I work for commissions which are renewing, and have over a 95% retention rate (which is considered excellent in my business). I have NEVER lost a client due to disatisfaction with my service...so...you know the rest
What did he do now?
Hubby is from Lisle / Naperville, and his Mom serves at a tiny local breakfast diner. I should see what her experience is.... I'm guessing it would be similar.
That system would be much better than our tipping system. However, if you tried it here under current laws, you could be arrested. I've not been to restaurants in Asia, unless Turkey counts. The service there was pretty good, but nothing extraordinary. Perhaps we need a tipping system here because we have such low standards for service?
At the places where I'd be likely to spend $300 on wine, you bet I will tip on it at about the standard rate. The sommelier gets tipped out at places like that and actually does contribute significantly to the wine choices, makes recommendations, etc.
You need to eat at nicer places at that price point if you can't tell the difference. If you go to, say, Alinea or Per Se (both in the price point you mentioned), and can't tell the difference in what they are doing then you need to pay more attention. It is like going to a symphony at Madison Square Garden vs listening to your neighbor's 5 year old pound random keys on his keyboard.
Yeah, this guy is complete trash.
The restaurant pays its employees considerably less than the prevailing wage (often less than minimum wage) based upon the expectation that customers will tip. Consequently, the food is offered at a lower price than it would be if employee wages were included.
If all people were parasites like zerocool84, food prices would be significantly higher to account for employee wages. Luckily for him most other people aren't losers, so he can continue to leech the system like the deadbeat thief he is.
How about reading the story first.
She goes there a LOT. Enough to where they notice her. So I guess she is happy with the food/service or would not return.