Barton 2500 temps too high?!!?

[Stephan28]

Ok, I just installed my Barton 2500 on my 8RDA+ M/B with a SK-7 with a Smart Case II fan and AS3. With the fan at full blast I'm reading 48-49 degrees C. To me this is a bit too hot but I am no expert. My 1700 Palomino would run about 41 C on the same board with a Volcano 7+. I really thought the Sk-7 would do a better job. When I put on the AS3 I was very light on the application as I have read several times that you should still be able to see the #'s on the chip. Is this normal? Nothing is O/C'ed yet and now I'm afraid to. In fact when I run the Radeon 9800 screen saver with the gargoyle it runs up to 55 C. I'm just not comfy with these temps. Should I be concerned? Any suggestions? I purchase the SK-7 and Smart Case Fan II so I wouldn't have the loud fan noise but this thing sounds like a hairdrier!!!

 

[Webthug]

Ive build a couple of computers with that processor and that mobo, and i have found that the barton's in generally warmer than the t'breads at same speed, that warm teperatures are somewhat normal. Wilst your temps are on the high end the are not a concern unless they reach the low to mid sixties. Check that there is sufficient thermal paste between the CPU and the HSF and that these two are in direct contact with one another. Apart from that it would be nice to have the average ambient temperature? weather you keep your case on or of? How neat the insides of your PC are? This would greatly increase our ability to diagnose the problems.

 

[Stephan28]

Currently the case is open. Well one side of it anyway. The area around the CPU is not cluttered but of course there is the usual ribbon cables running around. I closed the case and left it once and I believe it did an auto shut down at 65 C. I have since raised the shut down to 70 C. I have not had a chance to watch it the entire time as of yet.

I did use the AS3 sparingly since I have read in several places to use it as such. I actually used a very thin layer almost transparent. The SK-7 was not a mirror finish either so I may try using some more AS3 to fill in the "rough" contact area. Worst case scenario I guess I could polish it.

I was hoping that I could get a ball park figure of Barton temps at idle....if anyone has some to share as well.

Thanks:beer:

 

[HiTek21]

What kind of case temps do you have? I have a barton 2500+ OCed to 2.1GHz and runs at 39-41c idle and about 44c under full load with case temps of 33c. I'm using an Alpha PAL 8045 with vantec stealth fan which is close to the SK7. also is your fan suck or blowing air onto the heatsink?

 

[Stephan28]

Right now the CPU temp is 47 C and the "System Temp" is 42 C. That is directly from the PC Health Status on the Bios. Not certain where it's getting the System Temp from though. The fan is blowing onto the CPU as I believe it should.

 

[AMCRambler]

When you say the fan is blowing onto the cpu, does that mean your rear case fan? This could be your problem. Most people set their case fans up with the exhaust at the rear by the chip, and an intake at the front. I guess the logic in this is that it's better to be pulling the hot air out of the case then to be blowing cool air onto the chip. That way the case air which the heatsink is doing the heat exchange with is cooler. Maybe try turning your rear fan into and exhaust and check your temps? In know it sounds stupid, but it won't hurt to try.
Also how many case fans do you have and how much air/rpms do they move? A system temp of 42C sounds a little high to me. Mine is usually 37 or 38 with my XP 2400.

 

[Tikerz]

I have the same temps as HiTek21 on an Asus A7N8X with a SLK800a and Smart Fan II. I had high temps when I first installed my CPU, but I reseated it and made sure it was on correctly and temps dropped a lot.

 

[Regs]

I have the same temps. Actually a little higher if a Alpa Pal 80mm HSF. The ABS is a bit tricky reading off the diode temp. But bartons do run around 45-60c easily.

 

[0roo0roo]

55c is nothing to fret about.

and your right about temp controlled fans not being smart. better to get manual fan speed control.


an open case is not necessarily better then a closed case. its only better if your case air flow is simply dreadful. you should feed your cpu as much fresh air as possible.


and yes, rear fan should be exhausting, mostly because front and side case fans should be intakes. if you want to feed cold air directly to cpu, cut hole above cpu area on side panel and mount intake fan. a rear intake would send air to the psu and straight back out. leaving rest of case air rather stagnant.

 

[saber800]

I think thats a bit warm but the processor can handle temps much higher than that. I got a Barton 2500+ and I'm getting temps around 34C for the CPU and 35C for the System (using the BIOS PC Health and PCAlert4 that came with my MSI board). Here's the setup I have:

MSI K7N2 Delta-L nForce2 Ultra
Athlon 2500+ Barton
Speeze FalconRock (running full speed)
2 Panaflo fans (one intake - full speed, one exhaust - 3/4 speed)
1 Zalman 92mm on a Zalman FB123 Bracket to cool Geforce Ti4200 (fan also blows some air on North bridge - 1/2 speed)

I think you should be alright. There are many factors to take in account like airflow through your case, the load on the processor (programs you are running while checking temps), etc, etc.

 

[pelikan]

I think those temps are way too high considering that you have great cooling and have not overclocked. I would bet that the edge of the heatsink base is sitting on the raised part of the socket. There's only a few mm clearance there and if its up on the socked edge it won't make complete contact with the cpu. You should take the MB out and shine a flashlight under the heatsink. Look at the raised part of the socket, where the lever is hinged.
You should be able to run the fan at about 3000 rpm while overclocked and still have reasonable temps.