*BCS Top 5 Standings Shakeup*

[Whisper]

I'd imagine it'll likely end up being VT vs. OSU, but I'd much rather see LSU in there (being a Tiger fan and all). That being said, and as others have pointed out, LSU would likely have been beaten by UGA today had the Dawgs gotten in there instead of UT...but that's mainly because LSU was/is out a HUGE amount of talent (Flynn, Dorsey, Doucett, Perriloux's injured finger).

With there being a month to rest between now and the national champsionship, if LSU makes it in, and their key players recover, they'll win.

As for the people saying UGA shouldn't get the bid because they didn't win their conference championship: I'd agree to an extent. UGA was pretty bad at the beginning of the year, but in my opinion, they're currently the strongest team in the SEC (other than a healthy LSU). The only reason they didn't make it to the game tonight was because UT held the tiebreaker over them with an early-season win. Should the Dawgs somehow make it into the national championship game, I have a feeling they'd put on a pretty damn good show. Watch out for them next year, considering that pretty much everyone they have will be back.

 

[Pepsei]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Just a question. Can the computer rankings change for Georgia, Kansas, and OSU since they didn't play? I know other factors can change (AP and Coaches poll) that can put them up, but can the computer rankings change at all?

i don't think it'll change, so taking out the top 2 team from the computer ranking last week.. we 'll probably get

Ohio
Kansas
Georgia
VT
LSU

in that order. and mixing that with the polls.... we'll get the final BCS

 

[roguerower]

Dunno.....I think it'll end up being LSU v. Ohio but I would love to see the Hokies in there. We'll see tomorrow @ 8.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Ya know-- they have mentioned EVERY other team in the Top 10 BUT VT (Those on Gameday). Like they haven't said anything negative about them, but they haven't even MENTIONED THEIR NAME. This is ridiculous if we don't even get consideration.

-Kevin

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

This really has to be the worst year ever.

Ohio St. - Just flat out not a good team that played a really weak schedule. If they go they'll probably get embarrassed just like they did last year.
LSU - I can't stand the idea of a two loss team playing in the NCG.
Kansas - What is, an overrated team who's played one of the weakest schedules ever Alex?
VT - You can't spell overrated without VT.
Georgia - I'm pretty sure if you're not the best team in your conference you shouldn't have the chance to be the best team in the nation.

I was praying for Oregon vs. LSU, Oklahoma vs. LSU, or Oregon vs. Oklahoma matchup a few weeks back. Now I really couldn't care less. Of the five teams that have a shot there's not a single matchup there that I'd really like to see.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
[snip] LSU can beat any of the teams in front of them (except perhaps Georgia and VT).

-Kevin

And you still think LSU should jump VT?

Of course they should. People want to talk about LSU's losses (ties really) being to unranked teams but they don't want to talk about their wins. I know VT sure as hell doesn't want to talk about LSU's quality wins.

Quality wins!? Where to begin...?

v. Florida, LSU trails the entire game. Scores game winning TD with 1:09 left.
v. Auburn, LSU trailed through the 1st half. Scores game winning TD with 0:01 left.
v. Alabama, Ties the game with a TD with 2:49. Scores game winning TD with 1:26 left.

Convincing wins:
v. Mississippi St.
v. Virginia Tech.
v. Middle Tennessee
v. South Carolina
v. Tulane
v. Louisiana Tech
v. Mississippi
v. Tennessee

 

[Svnla]

I like to see LSU vs. USC to settle the 1/2 championship in 2003. That should be a nice game. Would you love to see the game goes to OT/climax finish like LSU did many times during this season? You know you want to.

My random thoughts: (of why other teams should not go to NCG this year)

OSU - been there last year and got owned and no conference championship game (this should be a requirement for ALL BCS major conferences)
VT - got owned by LSU this year
HI - ok, if HI make it to NCG then I won't wach college football ever again <crossing fingers...lol>
KU - 1 loss but the only one that counted
GA - didn't win the conference, heck not even their own division
OU - loss to LSU in 2003


Here are the pros and cons of all the contenders from Foxsports:
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7513842

If LSU have all players back from injuries and play with disciplines and determination and up to their potential and talents, they will be unbeatable <just ask VT>.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
[snip] LSU can beat any of the teams in front of them (except perhaps Georgia and VT).

-Kevin

And you still think LSU should jump VT?

Of course they should. People want to talk about LSU's losses (ties really) being to unranked teams but they don't want to talk about their wins. I know VT sure as hell doesn't want to talk about LSU's quality wins.

Quality wins!? Where to begin...?

v. Florida, LSU trails the entire game. Scores game winning TD with 1:09 left.
v. Auburn, LSU trailed through the 1st half. Scores game winning TD with 0:01 left.
v. Alabama, Ties the game with a TD with 2:49. Scores game winning TD with 1:26 left.

Convincing wins:
v. Mississippi St.
v. Virginia Tech.
v. Middle Tennessee
v. South Carolina
v. Tulane
v. Louisiana Tech
v. Mississippi
v. Tennessee

I agree with all but the bolded part. That was not exactly a convincing win yesterday if you actually watched the game. UT basically handed them a win.

 

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
1. OSU
2. NY Jets
3. LSU
4. Miami Dolphins

Here is my list:

1. LSU
2. NE Patriots
3. USC
4. Miami Dolphins

NE and Miami could be the perfect teams this season. Would that be funny if Miami beat NE and ruin their chance? Impossible? Just ask the 85 Bears, their only loss was to Miami.

 

[BlackTigers]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
tOSU simply isn't that good. the lost to illinois, who lost to mizzou, who got beat pretty bad this evening.

And to carry that on...

LSU lost to Arkansas, who lost to Alabama, who lost to Louisiana-Munroe.
USC lost to Stanford, who lost to Notre Dame, who lost to ...well ,everyone.

etc, etc, etc...


That logic doesn't work very well, at all.

 

[Chryso]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
[snip] LSU can beat any of the teams in front of them (except perhaps Georgia and VT).

-Kevin

And you still think LSU should jump VT?

Of course they should. People want to talk about LSU's losses (ties really) being to unranked teams but they don't want to talk about their wins. I know VT sure as hell doesn't want to talk about LSU's quality wins.

Quality wins!? Where to begin...?

v. Florida, LSU trails the entire game. Scores game winning TD with 1:09 left.
v. Auburn, LSU trailed through the 1st half. Scores game winning TD with 0:01 left.
v. Alabama, Ties the game with a TD with 2:49. Scores game winning TD with 1:26 left.

Convincing wins:
v. Mississippi St.
v. Virginia Tech.
v. Middle Tennessee
v. South Carolina
v. Tulane
v. Louisiana Tech
v. Mississippi
v. Tennessee

I agree with all but the bolded part. That was not exactly a convincing win yesterday if you actually watched the game. UT basically handed them a win.

No, it wasn't a convincing win yesterday. However, they did manage to win it without their starting QB and with Dorsey on the bench for almost the entire game.

 

[TheShiz]

no clear 2 teams this year. I think they need 1 extra game, they can narrow it down to 4 teams and I think the 5th doesn't really have an argument. my best guess for the title game is LSU and ohio state, and I don't think i even want to watch it. i predict the game will have the worst BCS championship game ratings ever because people like to watch best 2 teams when they both deserve to be there, and I don't think any of these teams really deserve to be there this year. how about no national champion this year, heh.

 

[Pepsei]

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
1. OSU
2. NY Jets
3. LSU
4. Miami Dolphins

Here is my list:

1. LSU
2. NE Patriots
3. USC
4. Miami Dolphins

NE and Miami could be the perfect teams this season. Would that be funny if Miami beat NE and ruin their chance? Impossible? Just ask the 85 Bears, their only loss was to Miami.

you didn't get the joke....

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Svnla
I like to see LSU vs. USC to settle the 1/2 championship in 2003. That should be a nice game. Would you love to see the game goes to OT/climax finish like LSU did many times during this season? You know you want to.

My random thoughts: (of why other teams should not go to NCG this year)

OSU - been there last year and got owned and no conference championship game (this should be a requirement for ALL BCS major conferences)
VT - got owned by LSU this year
HI - ok, if HI make it to NCG then I won't wach college football ever again <crossing fingers...lol>
KU - 1 loss but the only one that counted
GA - didn't win the conference, heck not even their own division
OU - loss to LSU in 2003


Here are the pros and cons of all the contenders from Foxsports:
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7513842

If LSU have all players back from injuries and play with disciplines and determination and up to their potential and talents, they will be unbeatable <just ask VT>.

You are penalizing VT for losing to the number 2 ranked team (albeit badly) as the only game. Yet, somehow OSU losing to an unranked team, and they don't get penalized.

And you penalize OU for losing in 2003???? OU shouldn't make it because they have lost to 2 unranked teams this season and they would have to jump 7 spots right now over teams that should not be jumped like that.

-Kevin

 

[Gamingphreek]

Man I don't think I have ever been this anxious waiting for the polls. In looking though, ESPN Sportsnation shows it wisdom with this load of crap:

1. Missouri
2. WVU
3. OSU
4. Georgia
5. LSU
6. Kansas
7. VT
8. OU

Somehow after beating the #11 team VT drops a rank :-\ -- and WVU and Mizzou somehow hold their ranks. I'm so glad that poll counts for nothing.

 

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Svnla
I like to see LSU vs. USC to settle the 1/2 championship in 2003. That should be a nice game. Would you love to see the game goes to OT/climax finish like LSU did many times during this season? You know you want to.

My random thoughts: (of why other teams should not go to NCG this year)

OSU - been there last year and got owned and no conference championship game (this should be a requirement for ALL BCS major conferences)
VT - got owned by LSU this year
HI - ok, if HI make it to NCG then I won't wach college football ever again <crossing fingers...lol>
KU - 1 loss but the only one that counted
GA - didn't win the conference, heck not even their own division
OU - loss to LSU in 2003


Here are the pros and cons of all the contenders from Foxsports:
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7513842

If LSU have all players back from injuries and play with disciplines and determination and up to their potential and talents, they will be unbeatable <just ask VT>.

You are penalizing VT for losing to the number 2 ranked team (albeit badly) as the only game. Yet, somehow OSU losing to an unranked team, and they don't get penalized.

And you penalize OU for losing in 2003???? OU shouldn't make it because they have lost to 2 unranked teams this season and they would have to jump 7 spots right now over teams that should not be jumped like that.

-Kevin

I wouldn't say "penalizing". I would say "reasoning"...or slightly biased opinion of which two teams I like to see to play at this year NCG.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Man I don't think I have ever been this anxious waiting for the polls. In looking though, ESPN Sportsnation shows it wisdom with this load of crap:

1. Missouri
2. WVU
3. OSU
4. Georgia
5. LSU
6. Kansas
7. VT
8. OU

Somehow after beating the #11 team VT drops a rank :-\ -- and WVU and Mizzou somehow hold their ranks. I'm so glad that poll counts for nothing.

I feel safe in saying VTech is not going to the BCS championship. Beating BC the second time around isn't going to help you just like OU beating Mizzou a second time isn't going to help. I remember in 2004, Auburn beating UT twice didn't do squat for them.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Man I don't think I have ever been this anxious waiting for the polls. In looking though, ESPN Sportsnation shows it wisdom with this load of crap:

1. Missouri
2. WVU
3. OSU
4. Georgia
5. LSU
6. Kansas
7. VT
8. OU

Somehow after beating the #11 team VT drops a rank :-\ -- and WVU and Mizzou somehow hold their ranks. I'm so glad that poll counts for nothing.

I feel safe in saying VTech is not going to the BCS championship. Beating BC the second time around isn't going to help you just like OU beating Mizzou a second time isn't going to help. I remember in 2004, Auburn beating UT twice didn't do squat for them.

Yes, but OU is #9 and VT is #6. USC and LSU are both in front of OU and cannot be skipped over by OU merely winning the Big 12 championship.

-Kevin

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Man I don't think I have ever been this anxious waiting for the polls. In looking though, ESPN Sportsnation shows it wisdom with this load of crap:

1. Missouri
2. WVU
3. OSU
4. Georgia
5. LSU
6. Kansas
7. VT
8. OU

Somehow after beating the #11 team VT drops a rank :-\ -- and WVU and Mizzou somehow hold their ranks. I'm so glad that poll counts for nothing.

I feel safe in saying VTech is not going to the BCS championship. Beating BC the second time around isn't going to help you just like OU beating Mizzou a second time isn't going to help. I remember in 2004, Auburn beating UT twice didn't do squat for them.

Yes, but OU is #9 and VT is #6. USC and LSU are both in front of OU and cannot be skipped over by OU merely winning the Big 12 championship.

-Kevin

OSU & LSU in the BCS Championship, take it to the bank.

Edit: You missed my point. VTech & OU are not going to be helped in the computer standings for winning yesterday.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Man I don't think I have ever been this anxious waiting for the polls. In looking though, ESPN Sportsnation shows it wisdom with this load of crap:

1. Missouri
2. WVU
3. OSU
4. Georgia
5. LSU
6. Kansas
7. VT
8. OU

Somehow after beating the #11 team VT drops a rank :-\ -- and WVU and Mizzou somehow hold their ranks. I'm so glad that poll counts for nothing.

I feel safe in saying VTech is not going to the BCS championship. Beating BC the second time around isn't going to help you just like OU beating Mizzou a second time isn't going to help. I remember in 2004, Auburn beating UT twice didn't do squat for them.

Yes, but OU is #9 and VT is #6. USC and LSU are both in front of OU and cannot be skipped over by OU merely winning the Big 12 championship.

-Kevin

OSU & LSU in the BCS Championship, take it to the bank.

I think it will be because of the messed up beyond belief BCS system. But it should be LSU vs. VT-- hell if we are doing things the way they should be we should have a 6 team play off in which everyone will then be happy. (And the Big 10 would stop being cheap and make a Championship)

-Kevin

Edit: I think the computers will like both of them for winning tomorrow. Also keep in mind the computers will also say "Hey VT beat #11" and "LSU beat #14" and "USC beat an unranked team" --- the voters, who are in love with everything that is USC and OSU are going to decide things (Though I don't think USC will get in-- too many ranks to jump for a win over wimpy UCLA)

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Man I don't think I have ever been this anxious waiting for the polls. In looking though, ESPN Sportsnation shows it wisdom with this load of crap:

1. Missouri
2. WVU
3. OSU
4. Georgia
5. LSU
6. Kansas
7. VT
8. OU

Somehow after beating the #11 team VT drops a rank :-\ -- and WVU and Mizzou somehow hold their ranks. I'm so glad that poll counts for nothing.

I feel safe in saying VTech is not going to the BCS championship. Beating BC the second time around isn't going to help you just like OU beating Mizzou a second time isn't going to help. I remember in 2004, Auburn beating UT twice didn't do squat for them.

Yes, but OU is #9 and VT is #6. USC and LSU are both in front of OU and cannot be skipped over by OU merely winning the Big 12 championship.

-Kevin

OSU & LSU in the BCS Championship, take it to the bank.

I think it will be because of the messed up beyond belief BCS system. But it should be LSU vs. VT-- hell if we are doing things the way they should be we should have a 6 team play off in which everyone will then be happy.

-Kevin

I'm not a fan of the playoff idea. I think this jumbled mess makes I-A great and gives it part of its identity.

Edit: VTech had their shot at LSU and got absolutely embarassed.

 

[PepePeru]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Pepsei

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: Pepsei

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: kalster
osu and vt i guess, but both acc and big 10 are inferior to sec and pac10

How can the human voters(or even computers) put VT ahead of LSU. It isnt going to happen.

Honestly it should be LSU vs OU.

They are bar none, the top two teams in college football at this moment.

I predict a split national title if LSU isnt in the BCS Title game.

but you can also argue that, LSU lost to 2 unranked teams, while VT lost to 2 ranked teams.

UK was ranked #17.

UK is currently unranked. Arkansas is currently unranked.
BC is currently ranked. LSU is currently ranked.

good point, so the computers will probably rank VT higher than LSU because of that.

OU's 2 losses are to unranked teams as well (at time of play and currently).

both on the road.
USC lost @ home.
LSU lost @ home.

you have to win @ home.

 

[miketheidiot]

conference championships are even more borked than the bcs. georgia is the best team in the sec atm and didn't even get a shot, and most peope here admit that they probably would have beaten the conference champions.



the best suggestion is just to not have a national championship.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
conference championships are even more borked than the bcs. georgia is the best team in the sec atm and didn't even get a shot, and most peope here admit that they probably would have beaten the conference champions.

Fan of the leg-humpers?

 

[PepePeru]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Man I don't think I have ever been this anxious waiting for the polls. In looking though, ESPN Sportsnation shows it wisdom with this load of crap:

1. Missouri
2. WVU
3. OSU
4. Georgia
5. LSU
6. Kansas
7. VT
8. OU

Somehow after beating the #11 team VT drops a rank :-\ -- and WVU and Mizzou somehow hold their ranks. I'm so glad that poll counts for nothing.

I feel safe in saying VTech is not going to the BCS championship. Beating BC the second time around isn't going to help you just like OU beating Mizzou a second time isn't going to help. I remember in 2004, Auburn beating UT twice didn't do squat for them.

Yes, but OU is #9 and VT is #6. USC and LSU are both in front of OU and cannot be skipped over by OU merely winning the Big 12 championship.

-Kevin

'merely winning the big 12 championship'

im done w/ you. you have no idea what youre talking about.
8 teams in the big 12 are going to bowl games. the Big 12 has the best QBs in the nation top to bottom.

ou only beat the #1 team in the nation by 21 on a neutral field. that's all.

'merely winning the big 12'...

youre a joke