*BCS Top 5 Standings Shakeup*

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Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: kalster

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
I hope everybody keeps on saying we'll get destroyed. Of all the teams to play in nc, we match up best with lsu.

!?

So how did you do against Florida last year (Keeping in mind your QB won the Heisman last year)? Yea thats what I thought...

Not even close. OU, VT, LSU, Georgia, USC all match up better than OSU does.

-Kevin

He's right, you know. LSU runs a very traditional offense which plays to OSU's defensive strength. WVU playing OSU in the BCS title game would be a more appropriate comparison to FU last year.

They do, but LSU's D-Line may as well enter the draft right now- they are THAT good and THAT big. Much larger than the speedy Florida team this past year.

i think so, besides lsu's defense isn't all that its built up to be, lsu's defense has been pretty much exposed by mcfadden, ofcourse osu's running back is not as good as mcfadden but they are going to have their chances

Team has been pretty banged up, most notably Glenn Dorsey who is a freak of nature.

-Kevin

lsu is supported to be pretty stacked on talent, giving up 200 + yards to a guy doesnt come down to 1 guy being banged up, either way, lsu wont be able to throttle osu IMO, they match up better than say wvu vs lsu or oregon vs lsu

Dorsey is that good. Remember the Colts defense without Bob Sanders-- horrid. Also, Dorsey is not the only one who is not playing at 100% right now either-- they are pretty banged up.

Spread option is harder for OSU to defend and LSU does have some spread plays, but they do not define themselves by that. Look for a lot of deep out routes and a few option plays from Perriloux (<- Who should be playing in front of Flynn IMO).

OSU's D-Line just can't match up against LSU's O-Line, and OSU's O-Line just cannot match up against LSU's D-Line-- especially with a healthy Dorsey just sitting 5 yards away ready to shoot through a gap like a heat seeking missile.

-Kevin

You really do accept everything the talking heads on ESPN say don't you? The sooner you realize you're talking out your ass the happier you'll be.

Yeah...this isn't XBOX360

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: JasonCoder

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
I hope everybody keeps on saying we'll get destroyed. Of all the teams to play in nc, we match up best with lsu.

it's going to be a great game to watch. it's a good match up indeed. Don't know why so many don't agree.

I've been trying to figure that out too.

And have to agree with the match ups. Dorsey against Boone. Or is Dorsey an inside tackle? Either way, our O line against their D line is a very good match up. Think Illinois, 1995, Rice with all he could handle in Pace & co.

Mostly SEC fanboys trashing the game, think the rest in this thread are pretty even keeled. UGA vs. USC would indeed have been a good game but the Illini aren't going to roll over for no one. I think most in this thread will be surprised by the end of the bowls. If we were in Vegas I'd want in on this action.

What I don't get is how Kansas made it in.

The Zooker and the Illini are going to get crushed. Kudos to them for getting to a BCS game but I forsee a beating similar to the one LSU put on Notre Dame.

i am not sure on that one, it depends on which booty shows up hehe
vegas has sc has a 2 TD fav, but illini looked pretty good against osu (specially their qb)

we'll see

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Jawo
ZV, Please name another school that has won at least 10 games for the last four consecutive years, plus (or) gone to 14 consecutive bowl games! NOT Overrated State!

Congratulations. You've won a bunch of games while playing in the Big Least and ACC conference.

Maybe your Hokies can step up next year and start playing in the WAC.

ZV

Lets count the number of still-ranked (ie: Quality opponents) that VT has played this year against what OSU has:

VT: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
OSU: 1, 2

Hmm thats odd-- it seems to me that VT has played much harder teams...shocking.

ZV why haven't you responded to my list of each of the conferences. Here I'll quote it for you and you can try to argue how the Big 10 is all powerful:

Historically? In the last decade at least how can you say that UW has been as strong as Tech?? They are good, but they are not on the same level of Tech unless you go back for a while before VT was serious contenders.

The Big 10 most definitely was one of the weaker conferences this year.

SEC: LSU, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee (Hands down the strongest conference)
This year either these conferences are fairly equal:
{
Big 12: Kansas, Texas, OU, Mizzou
ACC: VT, UVA, Clemson, Virginia, BC
}
PAC-10: USC, Arizona St., Oregon (Assuming healthy Dixon)
Big East: WVU, South Florida, Cincinnati, UConn
Big 10: OSU, Illinois, Wisconson
....
....
WAC: Hawaii, Boise State
MW: BYU

Obviously more detailed than that based on the strength of other teams in the conference, but Big 10 clearly isn't as strong as it once was and that OSU is #1 and not #4 or #5 based purely on reputation.

-Kevin

-Kevin

 

[Jawo]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Jawo
ZV, Please name another school that has won at least 10 games for the last four consecutive years, plus (or) gone to 14 consecutive bowl games! NOT Overrated State!

Congratulations. You've won a bunch of games while playing in the Big Least and ACC conference.

Maybe your Hokies can step up next year and start playing in the WAC.

ZV

When will the Big 11 learn to cout by the way? I'm sorry that we have been and continue to be a defensive team. Our defense has the most INTs since 2000, not to mention the incredible special teams. We don't "allow other schools to prevent us from scoring points" ie running up the score.

Umm....yea Hawai'i is really a powerhouse huh with their 136 SoS?

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: kalster

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
I hope everybody keeps on saying we'll get destroyed. Of all the teams to play in nc, we match up best with lsu.

!?

So how did you do against Florida last year (Keeping in mind your QB won the Heisman last year)? Yea thats what I thought...

Not even close. OU, VT, LSU, Georgia, USC all match up better than OSU does.

-Kevin

He's right, you know. LSU runs a very traditional offense which plays to OSU's defensive strength. WVU playing OSU in the BCS title game would be a more appropriate comparison to FU last year.

They do, but LSU's D-Line may as well enter the draft right now- they are THAT good and THAT big. Much larger than the speedy Florida team this past year.

i think so, besides lsu's defense isn't all that its built up to be, lsu's defense has been pretty much exposed by mcfadden, ofcourse osu's running back is not as good as mcfadden but they are going to have their chances

Team has been pretty banged up, most notably Glenn Dorsey who is a freak of nature.

-Kevin

lsu is supported to be pretty stacked on talent, giving up 200 + yards to a guy doesnt come down to 1 guy being banged up, either way, lsu wont be able to throttle osu IMO, they match up better than say wvu vs lsu or oregon vs lsu

Dorsey is that good. Remember the Colts defense without Bob Sanders-- horrid. Also, Dorsey is not the only one who is not playing at 100% right now either-- they are pretty banged up.

Spread option is harder for OSU to defend and LSU does have some spread plays, but they do not define themselves by that. Look for a lot of deep out routes and a few option plays from Perriloux (<- Who should be playing in front of Flynn IMO).

OSU's D-Line just can't match up against LSU's O-Line, and OSU's O-Line just cannot match up against LSU's D-Line-- especially with a healthy Dorsey just sitting 5 yards away ready to shoot through a gap like a heat seeking missile.

-Kevin

You really do accept everything the talking heads on ESPN say don't you? The sooner you realize you're talking out your ass the happier you'll be.

Edit: Perriloux will be lucky to make it a full season without getting his dumbass thrown in jail.

I'm not saying I LIKE the guy! I hate his attitude, but the guy is a scrambling QB-- at least more than Flynn is!

Look at LSU's players on the roster-- they are massive! Not only are they massive, they have proven that they can play on numerous occasions.

Yeah...this isn't XBOX360

Yea because thats how I form my opinons -_-

-Kevin

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Jawo

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Jawo
ZV, Please name another school that has won at least 10 games for the last four consecutive years, plus (or) gone to 14 consecutive bowl games! NOT Overrated State!

Congratulations. You've won a bunch of games while playing in the Big Least and ACC conference.

Maybe your Hokies can step up next year and start playing in the WAC.

ZV

When will the Big 11 learn to cout by the way? I'm sorry that we have been and continue to be a defensive team. Our defense has the most INTs since 2000, not to mention the incredible special teams. We don't "allow other schools to prevent us from scoring points" ie running up the score.

Umm....yea Hawai'i is really a powerhouse huh with their 136 SoS?

To add on to that, despite getting abused by LSU-- VT STILL managed to finish 2nd nationally on Defense.

-Kevin

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek


Look at LSU's players on the roster-- they are massive! Not only are they massive, they have proven that they can play on numerous occasions.

I see them every fucking year because Auburn plays them every fucking year.

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: kalster

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
I hope everybody keeps on saying we'll get destroyed. Of all the teams to play in nc, we match up best with lsu.

!?

So how did you do against Florida last year (Keeping in mind your QB won the Heisman last year)? Yea thats what I thought...

Not even close. OU, VT, LSU, Georgia, USC all match up better than OSU does.

-Kevin

He's right, you know. LSU runs a very traditional offense which plays to OSU's defensive strength. WVU playing OSU in the BCS title game would be a more appropriate comparison to FU last year.

They do, but LSU's D-Line may as well enter the draft right now- they are THAT good and THAT big. Much larger than the speedy Florida team this past year.

i think so, besides lsu's defense isn't all that its built up to be, lsu's defense has been pretty much exposed by mcfadden, ofcourse osu's running back is not as good as mcfadden but they are going to have their chances

Team has been pretty banged up, most notably Glenn Dorsey who is a freak of nature.

-Kevin

lsu is supported to be pretty stacked on talent, giving up 200 + yards to a guy doesnt come down to 1 guy being banged up, either way, lsu wont be able to throttle osu IMO, they match up better than say wvu vs lsu or oregon vs lsu

Dorsey is that good. Remember the Colts defense without Bob Sanders-- horrid. Also, Dorsey is not the only one who is not playing at 100% right now either-- they are pretty banged up.

Spread option is harder for OSU to defend and LSU does have some spread plays, but they do not define themselves by that. Look for a lot of deep out routes and a few option plays from Perriloux (<- Who should be playing in front of Flynn IMO).

OSU's D-Line just can't match up against LSU's O-Line, and OSU's O-Line just cannot match up against LSU's D-Line-- especially with a healthy Dorsey just sitting 5 yards away ready to shoot through a gap like a heat seeking missile.

-Kevin

You really do accept everything the talking heads on ESPN say don't you? The sooner you realize you're talking out your ass the happier you'll be.

Edit: Perriloux will be lucky to make it a full season without getting his dumbass thrown in jail.

I'm not saying I LIKE the guy! I hate his attitude, but the guy is a scrambling QB-- at least more than Flynn is!

Look at LSU's players on the roster-- they are massive! Not only are they massive, they have proven that they can play on numerous occasions.

Yeah...this isn't XBOX360

Yea because thats how I form my opinons -_-

-Kevin

whatz the big deal with their players, i see faster/better players when i see usc's defense (you seem to believe the media a lot, usc is 'supposed' have 3-4 first rounders on the draft this year,), but that doesnt mean they are going to stop everyone, its all about matchups, ohio state matches up pretty well to lsu(hell osu's run defense is better than lsu's, look at the stats), people are too hung up on last years matchup between florida and osu, florida is totally diff to lsu,

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: kalster

people are too hung up on last years matchup between florida and osu, florida is totally diff to lsu,

Holy Christ, I agree with a PAC-10 fan on something.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek


Look at LSU's players on the roster-- they are massive! Not only are they massive, they have proven that they can play on numerous occasions.

I see them every fucking year because Auburn plays them every fucking year.

Auburn is SEC-- SEC is hands down far and away better than Big 10 and yet LSU still manages to win (Convincingly most of the time)

whatz the big deal with there players, i see faster/better players when i see usc's defense, but that doesnt mean they are going to stop everyone, its all about matchups, ohio state matches up pretty well to ohio state (hell osu's run defense is better than lsu's, look at the stats), people are too hung up on last years matchup between florida and osu, florida is totally diff to lsu,

Run defense is better?? What great Running game has OSU defended against?? And USC's defense is good, but they also have a slightly weak schedule.

You are acting like the spread offense is the only way to beat OSU. Spread offense is a weakness, but certainly not the only way to beat OSU.

-Kevin

 

[Svnla]

So which conference has the most team in bowls this year? I counted and SEC has 9 --> LSU, Georgia, Florida, Auburn, Tenn, Miss State, Ark, Bama, Kentucky.

 

[JasonCoder]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: JasonCoder

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
I hope everybody keeps on saying we'll get destroyed. Of all the teams to play in nc, we match up best with lsu.

it's going to be a great game to watch. it's a good match up indeed. Don't know why so many don't agree.

I've been trying to figure that out too.

And have to agree with the match ups. Dorsey against Boone. Or is Dorsey an inside tackle? Either way, our O line against their D line is a very good match up. Think Illinois, 1995, Rice with all he could handle in Pace & co.

Mostly SEC fanboys trashing the game, think the rest in this thread are pretty even keeled. UGA vs. USC would indeed have been a good game but the Illini aren't going to roll over for no one. I think most in this thread will be surprised by the end of the bowls. If we were in Vegas I'd want in on this action.

What I don't get is how Kansas made it in.

The Zooker and the Illini are going to get crushed. Kudos to them for getting to a BCS game but I forsee a beating similar to the one LSU put on Notre Dame.

Nah, you're not looking at the match ups. If you're on the west coast I could understand that. Trust me, Carroll is massing tape on that offense and defense right now. Illini offense is better than USC's and the Illini D is on par with USC's... probably not as strong on the line.

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: JasonCoder

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: JasonCoder

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
I hope everybody keeps on saying we'll get destroyed. Of all the teams to play in nc, we match up best with lsu.

it's going to be a great game to watch. it's a good match up indeed. Don't know why so many don't agree.

I've been trying to figure that out too.

And have to agree with the match ups. Dorsey against Boone. Or is Dorsey an inside tackle? Either way, our O line against their D line is a very good match up. Think Illinois, 1995, Rice with all he could handle in Pace & co.

Mostly SEC fanboys trashing the game, think the rest in this thread are pretty even keeled. UGA vs. USC would indeed have been a good game but the Illini aren't going to roll over for no one. I think most in this thread will be surprised by the end of the bowls. If we were in Vegas I'd want in on this action.

What I don't get is how Kansas made it in.

The Zooker and the Illini are going to get crushed. Kudos to them for getting to a BCS game but I forsee a beating similar to the one LSU put on Notre Dame.

Nah, you're not looking at the match ups. If you're on the west coast I could understand that. Trust me, Carroll is massing tape on that offense and defense right now. Illini offense is better than USC's and the Illini D is on par with USC's... probably not as strong on the line.

if michigan could beat them why couldn't usc heh sorry to disagree but usc's defense is much better than illini (or anyone in the big 10 for that matter)

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Svnla
So which conference has the most team in bowls this year? I counted and SEC has 9 --> LSU, Georgia, Florida, Auburn, Tenn, Miss State, Ark, Bama, Kentucky.

Bowl eligible doesn't necessarily mean the team is good. Heck, even the WAC had 4 teams that are bowl eligible. You would have to look at each team, who they played and how they performed.

-Kevin

 

[CPA]

I know I'm in the minority here, but I think it's ridiculous that Hawaii doesn't get a shot at the NC. It's not their fault BCS teams won't play them.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: kalster

Originally posted by: JasonCoder

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: JasonCoder

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
I hope everybody keeps on saying we'll get destroyed. Of all the teams to play in nc, we match up best with lsu.

it's going to be a great game to watch. it's a good match up indeed. Don't know why so many don't agree.

I've been trying to figure that out too.

And have to agree with the match ups. Dorsey against Boone. Or is Dorsey an inside tackle? Either way, our O line against their D line is a very good match up. Think Illinois, 1995, Rice with all he could handle in Pace & co.

Mostly SEC fanboys trashing the game, think the rest in this thread are pretty even keeled. UGA vs. USC would indeed have been a good game but the Illini aren't going to roll over for no one. I think most in this thread will be surprised by the end of the bowls. If we were in Vegas I'd want in on this action.

What I don't get is how Kansas made it in.

The Zooker and the Illini are going to get crushed. Kudos to them for getting to a BCS game but I forsee a beating similar to the one LSU put on Notre Dame.

Nah, you're not looking at the match ups. If you're on the west coast I could understand that. Trust me, Carroll is massing tape on that offense and defense right now. Illini offense is better than USC's and the Illini D is on par with USC's... probably not as strong on the line.

if michigan could beat them why couldn't usc heh sorry to disagree but usc's defense is much better than illini (or anyone in the big 10 for that matter)

True story.

Illinois has improved throughout the season, but they are no match for USC. USC's defense is too big, and too fast (Especially given their size)

-Kevin

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek



Auburn is SEC-- SEC is hands down far and away better than Big 10 and yet LSU still manages to win (Convincingly most of the time)

Actually, the SEC has it's suckass teams just like every other conference. Ole miss sucks, Mississippi State sucks (but is improving), Bama has been sucking, Vandy sucks, South Carolina is very average, Kentucky usually sucks, etc...

You are acting like the spread offense is the only way to beat OSU. Spread offense is a weakness, but certainly not the only way to beat OSU.

The spread offense is not the only way to beat OSU but it's the best way. The traditional offense that LSU runs is something that OSU is good at defending. Your opinion that the defensive players for LSU are some sort of freaks of nature just isn't true either. LSU is a very good team but so is OSU and this title game is actually a pretty good match-up.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: CPA
I know I'm in the minority here, but I think it's ridiculous that Hawaii doesn't get a shot at the NC. It's not their fault BCS teams won't play them.

Teams should play Hawaii and Boise State. They have proven that, despite a weak conference, they can at least remain competitive with the other conferences when they play.

They definitely are on the same level as the teams in the top 6, but teams should at least play them (*cough* Michigan *cough*)

-Kevin

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: JasonCoder

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: JasonCoder

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
I hope everybody keeps on saying we'll get destroyed. Of all the teams to play in nc, we match up best with lsu.

it's going to be a great game to watch. it's a good match up indeed. Don't know why so many don't agree.

I've been trying to figure that out too.

And have to agree with the match ups. Dorsey against Boone. Or is Dorsey an inside tackle? Either way, our O line against their D line is a very good match up. Think Illinois, 1995, Rice with all he could handle in Pace & co.

Mostly SEC fanboys trashing the game, think the rest in this thread are pretty even keeled. UGA vs. USC would indeed have been a good game but the Illini aren't going to roll over for no one. I think most in this thread will be surprised by the end of the bowls. If we were in Vegas I'd want in on this action.

What I don't get is how Kansas made it in.

The Zooker and the Illini are going to get crushed. Kudos to them for getting to a BCS game but I forsee a beating similar to the one LSU put on Notre Dame.

Nah, you're not looking at the match ups. If you're on the west coast I could understand that. Trust me, Carroll is massing tape on that offense and defense right now. Illini offense is better than USC's and the Illini D is on par with USC's... probably not as strong on the line.

I'm actually in Columbus, OH. Illinois will get destroyed.

 

[rocadelpunk]

Even though the schedule was weak, the Buckeyes actually beat the teams that they were supposed to aside from Illinois (which will play in the Rose Bowl), something the rest of the country cannot say. If the others teams are so much better than Ohio State, then they should have bothered to play like National Championship teams against unranked opponents at home. Ohio State had one loss, by a touchdown, to a team that ended up in the Rose Bowl. That's a bit more deserving than teams that lose in games which they are favored by 41 points (like USC to Stanford), twice when ranked #1 (like LSU to UK and Arkansas) and they should have several more losses, or to .500ish (Like Georgia to South Carolina).

The talent level isn't nearly as good as the other top 5 or so teams, but the results say that Ohio State is more deserving. Can't blame OSU for overachieving, when other teams are underachieving.

I know I can't just say quit the crap about last year, but it shouldn't have any bearing on who gets in the nc game. That was last years team and I don't see Florida around. We had one bad game against a good team, and suddenly people think that Ohio State will get destroyed by every non-conference opponent that has a pulse.

I'm hoping this year will dispel all this crap about sec speed sec speed parity parity parity

Will definitely be watching national championship/Rose/Sugar

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
Even though the schedule was weak, the Buckeyes actually beat the teams that they were supposed to aside from Illinois (which will play in the Rose Bowl), something the rest of the country cannot say. If the others teams are so much better than Ohio State, then they should have bothered to play like National Championship teams against unranked opponents at home. Ohio State had one loss, by a touchdown, to a team that ended up in the Rose Bowl. That's a bit more deserving than teams that lose in games which they are favored by 41 points (like USC to Stanford), twice when ranked #1 (like LSU to UK and Arkansas) and they should have several more losses, or to .500ish (Like Georgia to South Carolina).

The talent level isn't nearly as good as the other top 5 or so teams, but the results say that Ohio State is more deserving. Can't blame OSU for overachieving, when other teams are underachieving.

I know I can't just say quit the crap about last year, but it shouldn't have any bearing on who gets in the nc game. That was last years team and I don't see Florida around. We had one bad game against a good team, and suddenly people think that Ohio State will get destroyed by every non-conference opponent that has a pulse.

I'm hoping this year will dispel all this crap about sec speed sec speed parity parity parity

Will definitely be watching national championship/Rose/Sugar

Well, OSU is winless against the SEC.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
Even though the schedule was weak, the Buckeyes actually beat the teams that they were supposed to aside from Illinois (which will play in the Rose Bowl), something the rest of the country cannot say. If the others teams are so much better than Ohio State, then they should have bothered to play like National Championship teams against unranked opponents at home. Ohio State had one loss, by a touchdown, to a team that ended up in the Rose Bowl. That's a bit more deserving than teams that lose in games which they are favored by 41 points (like USC to Stanford), twice when ranked #1 (like LSU to UK and Arkansas) and they should have several more losses, or to .500ish (Like Georgia to South Carolina).

The talent level isn't nearly as good as the other top 5 or so teams, but the results say that Ohio State is more deserving. Can't blame OSU for overachieving, when other teams are underachieving.

I know I can't just say quit the crap about last year, but it shouldn't have any bearing on who gets in the nc game. That was last years team and I don't see Florida around. We had one bad game against a good team, and suddenly people think that Ohio State will get destroyed by every non-conference opponent that has a pulse.

I'm hoping this year will dispel all this crap about sec speed sec speed parity parity parity

Will definitely be watching national championship/Rose/Sugar

but see, OSU is in a lose-lose situation, as always because so many people seem to hate the team.
if OSU wins the NC game, everyone is going to flip-flop and say that LSU wasn't a team that deserved to play in the NC game, blah blah blah
if OSU loses, then everyone is going to say that they weren't a good team and didn't deserve to play in the game, and that OSU is just another team that can't hang with the SEC.

either way, I'm looking forward to this game. and yep, hopefully its a successful game for the Buckeyes so that people will at least have to change their arguments on why OSU sucks.

 

[preslove]

LSU is going to straight up murder osu this year. SEC schedules gnaw on great teams, slowing them down, injuring them, making them look bad. Then they get several weeks rest to heal up. Then they beat the shit out of teams from pansy ass conferences. This will be no different with LSU v osu.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek



Auburn is SEC-- SEC is hands down far and away better than Big 10 and yet LSU still manages to win (Convincingly most of the time)

Actually, the SEC has it's suckass teams just like every other conference. Ole miss sucks, Mississippi State sucks (but is improving), Bama has been sucking, Vandy sucks, South Carolina is very average, Kentucky usually sucks, etc...

You are acting like the spread offense is the only way to beat OSU. Spread offense is a weakness, but certainly not the only way to beat OSU.

The spread offense is not the only way to beat OSU but it's the best way. The traditional offense that LSU runs is something that OSU is good at defending. Your opinion that the defensive players for LSU are some sort of freaks of nature just isn't true either. LSU is a very good team but so is OSU and this title game is actually a pretty good match-up.

Kentucky has a ridiculous offense and a halfway decent D-Line. They live and die by how their secondary plays. I'm not saying that the SEC is without fault, just that the teams that do perform well perform VERY well, and the teams that aren't good are not like the Idaho's, Dukes, and Florida Internationals of the other conferences.

I completely understand what you are saying about playing right into OSU's strength, but they haven't played a team with the rare combination of size, strength, and speed (on both sides of the ball) that teams like USC and LSU possess.

And if you have seen LSU's D and O lines along with their linebackers you will see why they are so ridiculous. While their secondary isn't as good as their lines, they are still well above average.

-Kevin

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
Even though the schedule was weak, the Buckeyes actually beat the teams that they were supposed to aside from Illinois (which will play in the Rose Bowl), something the rest of the country cannot say. If the others teams are so much better than Ohio State, then they should have bothered to play like National Championship teams against unranked opponents at home. Ohio State had one loss, by a touchdown, to a team that ended up in the Rose Bowl. That's a bit more deserving than teams that lose in games which they are favored by 41 points (like USC to Stanford), twice when ranked #1 (like LSU to UK and Arkansas) and they should have several more losses, or to .500ish (Like Georgia to South Carolina).

The talent level isn't nearly as good as the other top 5 or so teams, but the results say that Ohio State is more deserving. Can't blame OSU for overachieving, when other teams are underachieving.

I know I can't just say quit the crap about last year, but it shouldn't have any bearing on who gets in the nc game. That was last years team and I don't see Florida around. We had one bad game against a good team, and suddenly people think that Ohio State will get destroyed by every non-conference opponent that has a pulse.

I'm hoping this year will dispel all this crap about sec speed sec speed parity parity parity

Will definitely be watching national championship/Rose/Sugar

When that bad game against a good team is one of 2 good teams you play that doesn't say much. And the fact that the Illini are going to the rose bowl is purely based on revenue/tradition because their are plenty of better fits for it.

If OSU somehow pulls something out of their tail and wins, I will give credit to them-- I'm not going to make excuses for LSU or any other team.

-Kevin