Matt Lauer: And yet you admitted that there were these CIA secret facilities. OK?
President Bush: So what? Why is that not within the law?
Matt Lauer: The head of Amnesty International says secret sites are against international law.
President Bush: Well, we just disagree with him. Plus, my job is to protect you. And most American people, if I said [to them] that we had who we think is the mastermind of the 9/11, they would say, ?Why don?t you see if you can?t get information without torturing him,? which is what we did.
Matt Lauer: I don?t want to let this ?within the law issue? slip though. I mean, if, in fact, there was water boarding used with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and for the viewers, that?s basically when you strap someone to a board and you make them feel as if they?re going to drown by putting them underwater, if that was legal and within the law, why couldn?t you do it at Guantanamo? Why did you have to go to a secret location around the world?
President Bush: I?m not going to talk about techniques. And, I?m not going explain to the enemy what we?re doing. All I?m telling you is that you?ve asked me whether or not we?re doing things to protect the American people, and I want the American people to know we are doing so.
Originally posted by: Pedro69
Matt Lauer interviews Bush
Matt Lauer: And yet you admitted that there were these CIA secret facilities. OK?
President Bush: So what? Why is that not within the law?
Matt Lauer: The head of Amnesty International says secret sites are against international law.
President Bush: Well, we just disagree with him. Plus, my job is to protect you. And most American people, if I said [to them] that we had who we think is the mastermind of the 9/11, they would say, ?Why don?t you see if you can?t get information without torturing him,? which is what we did.
Matt Lauer: I don?t want to let this ?within the law issue? slip though. I mean, if, in fact, there was water boarding used with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and for the viewers, that?s basically when you strap someone to a board and you make them feel as if they?re going to drown by putting them underwater, if that was legal and within the law, why couldn?t you do it at Guantanamo? Why did you have to go to a secret location around the world?
President Bush: I?m not going to talk about techniques. And, I?m not going explain to the enemy what we?re doing. All I?m telling you is that you?ve asked me whether or not we?re doing things to protect the American people, and I want the American people to know we are doing so.
Bush is acting like a schoolyard bully who is cornered and has no way out. I really hope that the americans wake up and bring this to an end in November.
Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Originally posted by: Pedro69
Matt Lauer interviews Bush
Matt Lauer: And yet you admitted that there were these CIA secret facilities. OK?
President Bush: So what? Why is that not within the law?
Matt Lauer: The head of Amnesty International says secret sites are against international law.
President Bush: Well, we just disagree with him. Plus, my job is to protect you. And most American people, if I said [to them] that we had who we think is the mastermind of the 9/11, they would say, ?Why don?t you see if you can?t get information without torturing him,? which is what we did.
Matt Lauer: I don?t want to let this ?within the law issue? slip though. I mean, if, in fact, there was water boarding used with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and for the viewers, that?s basically when you strap someone to a board and you make them feel as if they?re going to drown by putting them underwater, if that was legal and within the law, why couldn?t you do it at Guantanamo? Why did you have to go to a secret location around the world?
President Bush: I?m not going to talk about techniques. And, I?m not going explain to the enemy what we?re doing. All I?m telling you is that you?ve asked me whether or not we?re doing things to protect the American people, and I want the American people to know we are doing so.
Bush is acting like a schoolyard bully who is cornered and has no way out. I really hope that the americans wake up and bring this to an end in November.
The Bush policies are responsible for swelling the number of people ripe for recruitment to terrorist organizations. I feel sorry for the people on both sides, in what seems to be a contest of who can be the most despicable.
Originally posted by: sandorski
"Well, we just disagree with him."
Best defense evar!!!!
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Originally posted by: Pedro69
Matt Lauer interviews Bush
Matt Lauer: And yet you admitted that there were these CIA secret facilities. OK?
President Bush: So what? Why is that not within the law?
Matt Lauer: The head of Amnesty International says secret sites are against international law.
President Bush: Well, we just disagree with him. Plus, my job is to protect you. And most American people, if I said [to them] that we had who we think is the mastermind of the 9/11, they would say, ?Why don?t you see if you can?t get information without torturing him,? which is what we did.
Matt Lauer: I don?t want to let this ?within the law issue? slip though. I mean, if, in fact, there was water boarding used with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and for the viewers, that?s basically when you strap someone to a board and you make them feel as if they?re going to drown by putting them underwater, if that was legal and within the law, why couldn?t you do it at Guantanamo? Why did you have to go to a secret location around the world?
President Bush: I?m not going to talk about techniques. And, I?m not going explain to the enemy what we?re doing. All I?m telling you is that you?ve asked me whether or not we?re doing things to protect the American people, and I want the American people to know we are doing so.
Bush is acting like a schoolyard bully who is cornered and has no way out. I really hope that the americans wake up and bring this to an end in November.
The Bush policies are responsible for swelling the number of people ripe for recruitment to terrorist organizations. I feel sorry for the people on both sides, in what seems to be a contest of who can be the most despicable.
It almost sounds Darwinian they way you said that...
The ranks swell... we kill them all (hopefully before they kill us) until we've ridded the gene pool of those who are succeptable to the kind of fanatical mind control/influence exhibited by the islamo-fascist leaders who, not coincidentally, don't seem willing to strap on a bomb themselves and get on a bus.
So the real question is: Is Bush creating more terrorists or are his policies just pushing the fence sitters off the fence? And if that's the case, is that a bad thing if we can keep them contained in Iraq?
Not advocating anything here... just thinking out loud.
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Originally posted by: Pedro69
Matt Lauer interviews Bush
Matt Lauer: And yet you admitted that there were these CIA secret facilities. OK?
President Bush: So what? Why is that not within the law?
Matt Lauer: The head of Amnesty International says secret sites are against international law.
President Bush: Well, we just disagree with him. Plus, my job is to protect you. And most American people, if I said [to them] that we had who we think is the mastermind of the 9/11, they would say, ?Why don?t you see if you can?t get information without torturing him,? which is what we did.
Matt Lauer: I don?t want to let this ?within the law issue? slip though. I mean, if, in fact, there was water boarding used with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and for the viewers, that?s basically when you strap someone to a board and you make them feel as if they?re going to drown by putting them underwater, if that was legal and within the law, why couldn?t you do it at Guantanamo? Why did you have to go to a secret location around the world?
President Bush: I?m not going to talk about techniques. And, I?m not going explain to the enemy what we?re doing. All I?m telling you is that you?ve asked me whether or not we?re doing things to protect the American people, and I want the American people to know we are doing so.
Bush is acting like a schoolyard bully who is cornered and has no way out. I really hope that the americans wake up and bring this to an end in November.
The Bush policies are responsible for swelling the number of people ripe for recruitment to terrorist organizations. I feel sorry for the people on both sides, in what seems to be a contest of who can be the most despicable.
It almost sounds Darwinian they way you said that...
The ranks swell... we kill them all (hopefully before they kill us) until we've ridded the gene pool of those who are succeptable to the kind of fanatical mind control/influence exhibited by the islamo-fascist leaders who, not coincidentally, don't seem willing to strap on a bomb themselves and get on a bus.
So the real question is: Is Bush creating more terrorists or are his policies just pushing the fence sitters off the fence? And if that's the case, is that a bad thing if we can keep them contained in Iraq?
Not advocating anything here... just thinking out loud.
Originally posted by: Pedro69
Matt Lauer interviews Bush
Matt Lauer: And yet you admitted that there were these CIA secret facilities. OK?
President Bush: So what? Why is that not within the law?
Matt Lauer: The head of Amnesty International says secret sites are against international law.
President Bush: Well, we just disagree with him. Plus, my job is to protect you. And most American people, if I said [to them] that we had who we think is the mastermind of the 9/11, they would say, ?Why don?t you see if you can?t get information without torturing him,? which is what we did.
Matt Lauer: I don?t want to let this ?within the law issue? slip though. I mean, if, in fact, there was water boarding used with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and for the viewers, that?s basically when you strap someone to a board and you make them feel as if they?re going to drown by putting them underwater, if that was legal and within the law, why couldn?t you do it at Guantanamo? Why did you have to go to a secret location around the world?
President Bush: I?m not going to talk about techniques. And, I?m not going explain to the enemy what we?re doing. All I?m telling you is that you?ve asked me whether or not we?re doing things to protect the American people, and I want the American people to know we are doing so.
Bush is acting like a schoolyard bully who is cornered and has no way out. I really hope that the americans wake up and bring this to an end in November.
Originally posted by: Zebo
I don't have a real problem with these CIA secret tortue chambers for guys that planned 9/11/ Mucho intel can be gained which can't under US or amnesty law.
I think the problem arrises when lots of numbers of individuals are treated in this fashion or US citizens especially. More a critial mass problem as I'm sure most people would tortue in a ticking bomb scenario where time is of essense.
I'd prefer the president keep it on the down low, STFU, and not brag about it and "his rights" just makes him look stupid and America look bad.
So bascially he needs to keep the numbers way way down and keep a total lid on it with only top secret hand selected intellgence officers reporting directly to CIA chief. This will be a self limiting factor just by the nature you won't find many officers you can totally 100% trust to break laws for him.
Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium
Why should we foist a war of our own making on Iraq? When they bring it here (again) it will be justified, according to your "logic".
Bush has been the ultimate recruiting tool for the terrorists.
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Originally posted by: Pedro69
Matt Lauer interviews Bush
Matt Lauer: And yet you admitted that there were these CIA secret facilities. OK?
President Bush: So what? Why is that not within the law?
Matt Lauer: The head of Amnesty International says secret sites are against international law.
President Bush: Well, we just disagree with him. Plus, my job is to protect you. And most American people, if I said [to them] that we had who we think is the mastermind of the 9/11, they would say, ?Why don?t you see if you can?t get information without torturing him,? which is what we did.
Matt Lauer: I don?t want to let this ?within the law issue? slip though. I mean, if, in fact, there was water boarding used with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and for the viewers, that?s basically when you strap someone to a board and you make them feel as if they?re going to drown by putting them underwater, if that was legal and within the law, why couldn?t you do it at Guantanamo? Why did you have to go to a secret location around the world?
President Bush: I?m not going to talk about techniques. And, I?m not going explain to the enemy what we?re doing. All I?m telling you is that you?ve asked me whether or not we?re doing things to protect the American people, and I want the American people to know we are doing so.
Bush is acting like a schoolyard bully who is cornered and has no way out. I really hope that the americans wake up and bring this to an end in November.
The Bush policies are responsible for swelling the number of people ripe for recruitment to terrorist organizations. I feel sorry for the people on both sides, in what seems to be a contest of who can be the most despicable.
It almost sounds Darwinian they way you said that...
The ranks swell... we kill them all (hopefully before they kill us) until we've ridded the gene pool of those who are succeptable to the kind of fanatical mind control/influence exhibited by the islamo-fascist leaders who, not coincidentally, don't seem willing to strap on a bomb themselves and get on a bus.
So the real question is: Is Bush creating more terrorists or are his policies just pushing the fence sitters off the fence? And if that's the case, is that a bad thing if we can keep them contained in Iraq?
Not advocating anything here... just thinking out loud.
Originally posted by: RedBeard
Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium
Why should we foist a war of our own making on Iraq? When they bring it here (again) it will be justified, according to your "logic".
Bush has been the ultimate recruiting tool for the terrorists.
Exactly! Because if we would just leave the terrorists alone, they would be happy. Wrong. (twisted) Religion and ignorance are the ultimate recruiting tools for the terrorists.
Please, be the first to convert to Islam under the gun or die. That is the only thing that will appease them.
Originally posted by: sandorski
"Well, we just disagree with him."
Best defense evar!!!!
President Bush: I?m not going to talk about techniques. And, I?m not going explain to the enemy what we?re doing. All I?m telling you is that you?ve asked me whether or not we?re doing things to protect the American people, and I want the American people to know we are doing so.
Originally posted by: Pedro69
Matt Lauer interviews Bush
Matt Lauer: And yet you admitted that there were these CIA secret facilities. OK?
President Bush: So what? Why is that not within the law?
Matt Lauer: The head of Amnesty International says secret sites are against international law.
President Bush: Well, we just disagree with him. Plus, my job is to protect you. And most American people, if I said [to them] that we had who we think is the mastermind of the 9/11, they would say, ?Why don?t you see if you can?t get information without torturing him,? which is what we did.
Matt Lauer: I don?t want to let this ?within the law issue? slip though. I mean, if, in fact, there was water boarding used with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and for the viewers, that?s basically when you strap someone to a board and you make them feel as if they?re going to drown by putting them underwater, if that was legal and within the law, why couldn?t you do it at Guantanamo? Why did you have to go to a secret location around the world?
President Bush: I?m not going to talk about techniques. And, I?m not going explain to the enemy what we?re doing. All I?m telling you is that you?ve asked me whether or not we?re doing things to protect the American people, and I want the American people to know we are doing so.
Bush is acting like a schoolyard bully who is cornered and has no way out. I really hope that the americans wake up and bring this to an end in November.
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Originally posted by: Pedro69
And if that's the case, is that a bad thing if we can keep them contained in Iraq?
Not advocating anything here... just thinking out loud.
WTF? You really think you can kill off all those who you mistakenly tortured and then let go because apparently they were innocent? Or what about all those men who lost their wives? Or the children who lost their parents? Or the father who's unemployed now because of the violence and can't feed their family? How are these people going to turn out? With every house that's bombed, whether it's by the terrorists or US, there's a good chance they're going to blame the US for their problems.
And lets say if just 1 in 10,000 victims have enough hatred to die for their cause (how many Americans enlisted simply because they saw a couple of towers fall in NY... now imagine people who are actual victims, or who are religious fanatics and seeing what they believe is an injustice), those are 'terrorists' who you've created who wouldn't have hated America (did you know there were hundreds of thousands that stood in vigil of sympathy for 9/11 in Tehran after 9/11?).
Very nice post. But containing all of them in IRAQ? The only Terrorists in Iraq is what America has created. Now we have created a hell of a lot more by helping out israel... I am sure that the people of Lebanon lot's of victoms that hate the USA right about now. We are creating a lot of so called terroists in the middle east... To think you can contain them all and stomp them all out of existence... (bush has you brainwhacked again)... There will always be good and bad people. You can't have any bad ones with out any good ones.... Even if everyone in the entire world was Good (up to your standards) there would always be something that would be bad (not to your standards) later.
It's not gonna happen this terrist game we are playing is un winable. It's like trying to get rid of gangs crips/bloods and people from cheating and stealing... I'm still trying to find the terroist... I think if you asked 1000 people in the USA what a terroist was you'd never get a straight answer. Would be fun to ask bush what a terroist means tho I think he thinks it means the devil...
Anyway... there is always an opposite side to every coin there will be a night for every day... You just can't have it any other way... No matter how many we kill or how much money we throw at this problem we can't make em all happy.
Tho it's fun to laugh at the idiots that play along!