Best 18in+ LCD for Gaming????

[Angus1966]

What's the current best LCD for FPS gaming??? I go to a LAN event every 6 weeks - Kansas City Beatdown - and I hate lugging my 21" Sony Behemoth - it weighs like 90lbs. I play alot of FPS games - Quake 3/etc,.. - so I'm concerned about image blurring also. I'd also like a black option to match my Lian-Li black case. Cost should be under $1500 (or I can't afford it!!!)
What's the best one available now????

 

[pillage2001]

I believe the Planar LCD is what you're looking for.

How much is it?? I don't know. I heard that it's the best LCD for gaming and DVD.

 

[Angus1966]

Where did you hear that? And what makes it better than other LCD/s for gaming???

 

[Apex]

The Dell 2000fp's the best under $1500. The best under $1000 is the Viewsonic VG191.

 

[Angus1966]

Any other suggestions???
Looking for users who actually have 18in or bigger LCD's (like the Viewsonic VG191 or Dell 2000FP) and use them for gaming, and either love/hate 'em.....
Tell me your experiences!

 

[NFS4]

I've got an 18.1" Planar w/GF3 Ti200 w/DVI. It rocks for gaming.

 

[Angus1966]

What model # is it??? How is it for pixel blurring??? What type of games do you play on it???
Thanks for any info...

 

[The Sauce]

New LCD's with Feed Forward technology are slated to come out this February and should cost no more than current LCD's. Apparently they have 1/10'th the latency of current LCD's pixels and should be much better for gaming. I would not buy one now, or you will kick yourself in a month.

 

[NFS4]

<< What model # is it??? How is it for pixel blurring??? What type of games do you play on it???
Thanks for any info... >>


I dunno the model number, it's just their 18.1" model. 1280x1024.


<< New LCD's with Feed Forward technology are slated to come out this February and should cost no more than current LCD's. Apparently they have 1/10'th the latency of current LCD's pixels and should be much better for gaming. I would not buy one now, or you will kick yourself in a month. >>


Link?? Or should we just take your word for it?:Q

And if you think that there won't be a premium for new technology, you are sorely mistaken. Especially given the current state of the LCD market.

 

[Random Variable]

I know it's only 17'', but I would recommend the Solarism LM-1711.

 

[Gunbuster]

My Planar 18.1 does not blur (or I am just blind) so I dont get the hype behind feed forward

 

[NFS4]

<< My Planar 18.1 does not blur (or I am just blind) so I dont get the hype behind feed forward >>


Mine doesn't blurr either. And I play games like Need for Speed: Porsche Unleashed and Return to Castle Wolfenstein.

 

[pillage2001]

<< Where did you hear that? And what makes it better than other LCD/s for gaming??? >>



Heard that from NFS4.

 

[Bluerain]

I have the Viewsonic vg191, 19 inch!

It does pivot/portrait with one click , i love it!

25 total response time ,450-1 contrast ratio.

Not one dead pixel!

I have no problems at all with ghosting/blurring

Check out flat lcd's at toms hardware.com

Goodluck

Blue

 

[Atlantean]

HOw much does it cost for a 18.1 inch planar lcd?

 

[Random Variable]

Maybe I should post some specifications to prove that the 17'' Solarism is the best LCD for gaming.


Type a-Si TFT Active Matrix LCD (16.7 Million colors)
Size 17.0 Viewable (diagonal)
Pixel Pitch .264mm (H) x .264mm (V)
Brightness 700cd/m2
Contrast 400:1 (typical)
Response Time tr:20 ms tf:20 ms
Dimming Range 200:1
View Angle 170º (H) 170º (V)
Horizontal Frequency Rate 64 KHz
Vertical Frequency Rate 60 Hz
Maximum Pixel Rate 54 MHz
Maximum Resolution 1280 x 1024 (SXGA)

 

[Bluerain]

Response time for the 17'' Solarism is 20+ 20 which is 40! Not good!

You have to add them up.
Blue

 

[Pariah]

If you read Tom's article, I wouldn't bother with a flat panel.

Conclusion:

"As we mentioned in the preceding pages, LCD monitors still can't hold a candle to CRTs in terms of quality. Granted, their geometry is flawless, they shrug off magnetic fields and they are astonishingly compact. However, their response times and their effective color range are just too limited. Graphic artists shouldn't even consider picking up one of these gadgets, since they would only risk disappointment...

Gamers, on the other hand, should stick to their tried-and-true CRT. The afterglow on TFTs lingers too long for most gaming. The best thing to do is just to wait until the response time has been reduced even further."

I've personally used a few Samsung models, Viewsonics and a Sony M81 flat panel, and I wouldn't use them for anything but office applications. When reading text, the picture is very stable and pleasant to look at, but as soon as any motion starts occuring, be it something as simple as scrolling a document, and the picture loses all its strengths. Movies looked bad on them, the colors are terribly washed out and motion within the movie has a "digital" feel to it. I don't game on them, so I won't comment on that, but I'm sure the colors are just as washed out, and I doubt the motion blurring is any better. One other thing is all panels look like garbage if they are not run at their native resolution or a multiple of it. None of these downsides hurt its use for office apps, but I can't see spending $800-1500 for such a one dimensional product. Flat panels are probably the future, but they aren't there yet.

 

[Bluerain]

Sorry, the vg191 has a contrast ratio of 500-1

Specs..

VG191


Overview | Features | Specs | Accessories



The ultimately ergonomic 19-inch LCD display.
ViewSonic takes the lead again in LCD display technology with the VG191 and VG191b. With superior video response and super-wide viewing angles ? thanks to ViewSonic?s SuperClearMVA? technology ? these displays are among the most ergonomically configurable LCD flat panels available. Outstanding contrast and brightness assure blacker blacks and richer colors. And OptiSync? dual-input technology makes these displays ready for DVI input. The VG191 and VG191b are perfect for financial, government and corporate use.



Overview | Features | Specs | Accessories

Full 19" viewable screen
This display features a full-size 19" screen with high brightness (250 nits) and a super-high contrast ratio (500:1).

1280 x 1024 native resolution
Displays a native resolution of 1280 x 1024 for outstanding image detail.

SuperClear MVA technology
SuperClearMVA technology combines SuperClear® screen technology and innovative Multidomain Vertical Alignment technology, delivering high contrast, brilliant color, improved viewing angles and superior clarity for moving images.

Optisync technology
This multi-mode input technology supports both digital (DVI) and analog (VGA) signals for ultimate configuration flexibility.

OSD/Power Lock
Prevents accidental misadjustments of OnView® controls to maintain optimized image quality.

OnView controls
Screen adjustments are made via an on-screen menu using simple controls.

Advanced ergonomic design
Optimum ergonomic design with height, tilt, swivel and portrait adjustments.

ViewSonic Wizard
This software provides user-friendly installation.

TCO and Energy 2000 compliant
This monitor complies with the world's strictest standards of low radiation, safety, ergonomics, recycling and power management.

Kensington® lock ready
Protect your assets with this attachment point for an anti-theft cable.

VESA® wall mount compliant
Mounts on most walls with ViewSonic's optional wall mount kit (WM-U1).

Three-year limited warranty


Overview | Features | Specs | Accessories

LCD PANEL Type 19.0" Color TFT Active Matrix SXGA LCD
Display Area 14.8" (H) x 11.9" (V), 19.0" Diagonal
Pixel Pitch .294mm
Contrast Ratio 500:1 (typ)
Viewing Angle 170° horizontal, 170° vertical (typ)
Light Source Long life, 50,000 hrs. (typ)
Response Time Total = 25ms (typ)
Brightness 250 cd/m2 (typ)
Panel Surface Anti-Glare
VIDEO INPUT Analog RGB Analog (75 ohms, 0.7/1.0 Vp-p)
Digital DVI-D (TMDS, 100 ohms)
Frequency fH:30~82kHz, fV:50~75Hz
Sync H/V Separated (TTL), Composite, Sync On Green
COMPATIBILITY PC VGA up to 1280 x 1024 non-interlaced
Mac®* 640 x 480, 800 x 600, 832 x 624, 1024 x 768, 1280 x 1024
CONNECTOR Signal 15-pin mini D-sub and 24-pin DVI-D, detachable cables
Power Adapter with 3-Pin AC Plug, (CEE22)
POWER Voltage AC 100-240 VAC (auto switch), 50-60Hz (+/-3)Hz
Consumption 60W (max)
USER CONTROLS Basic Power (Soft), 1, Down, Up, 2
OSD Auto image adjust, contrast, brightness, input select, color adjust [9300K, 6500K (default), R, G, B], information [mode, model number, serial number], manual image adjust [H. size, H. position, V. position, fine tune, sharpness], setup menu [language, resolution notice, OSD position, OSD timeout], memory, recall
OPERATING CONDITION Temperature 32-104°F (0-40°C)
Humidity 10-90% (no condensation)
DIMENSIONS Physical 460mm (W) x 462mm (H) x 238.5mm (D) 18.1" (W) x 18.2" (H) x 9.37" (D)
WEIGHT Net 9.0 KG (19.8 lbs)
REGULATIONS UL, c-UL, DOC-B, CB Report, CE, FCC-B, TUV/Ergo, ISO13406-2, TUV/GS, SEMKO, DEMKO, FIMKO, NEMKO, BSMI, VCCI, PSB, PCBC, TCO '99 (VG191), TCO '95 (VG191b), ENERGY STAR®, Energy 2000, NOM, C-TICK, GOST-R
POWER MANAGEMENT Meets Energy 2000 standards
WARRANTY Three-year limited warranty on parts, labor and backlight.

Pivot/portrait also

Blue

 

[xxsk8er101xx]

oh save your money and get a 19inch crt. I'm not sure what the best crt is. Even my KDS crt is pretty good and the price is good.

 

[Diable]

<< HOw much does it cost for a 18.1 inch planar lcd? >>



About a $1000 on PriceGrabber but I'm sure if you check Hot Deal you can find it cheaper.

 

[Dre]

<< HOw much does it cost for a 18.1 inch planar lcd? >>



You can get one at Dell for $899.00. You can even get a better price at Dell if you wait for one of their sales that they have every 2 weeks or so. It's uaully like 5% - 15% off.

 

[The Sauce]

<< Link?? Or should we just take your word for it? >>

Feed Forward




<< And if you think that there won't be a premium for new technology, you are sorely mistaken. Especially given the current state of the LCD market. >>


Supposedly it only involves a minor modification in the circuitry so it won't incur any additional production/manufacturing costs. Whether or not they actually charge more for it is a different matter entirely.

 

[Chippy]

Anymore suggestions/comments??? I'm also in the market for an 18in+ GAMING LCD.
I too am sick of dragging my HUGE/HEAVY monitor to LAN events - i've pulled my back-out twice and I'm afraid that
I'm going to drop the sucker eventually...

So it's the Viewsonic VG191 or the Planar 18.1 for gaming then????

 

[magnacudaIT]

I just got a Viewsonic VG191b beautiful display bright clear it will blow your mind but I am an avid multiplayer its currently running on a geforce3 ino3d VGA out not good, alot of pixel ghosting. I ordered the GainwardTi550 just for the DVI it should be here today or monday I will post the result. If you go LCD the viewsonic would be a great choice alot less money than planar and the difference will be minimal and you'll be out another $800 bucks with planar. KEEP THIS iN MIND dont even dream of using an LCD without DVI!!!!!! buy, beg, or borrow a new video card with DVI support.