Best AMD technologies/architectures

[wajed]

What is the best AMD architecture/architectures?

I'm trying to see the effect of AMD's success on it's stock value. I thought the first dual-core processors would get the stock value relatively very high, but they didn't have much effect on stock value as other dual-core designs.

AMD's highest stock value is on Feb 24, 2006.
2H 2005, on AMD's roadmap there was "Toledo".
1H 2006, on AMD's roadmap there was "Windsor" and "Orleans".
Are these the best architecture?

 

[IntelUser2000]

Why would being the first to anything matter to a stock price? The only time that's true is when it brings financial benefits. February of 2006 was half a year before Intel released the Core microarchitecture, and also the point where it looked like AMD had the best chance competing against Intel.

Best AMD architecture is obviously the Phenom II, because it performs the best. If you mean "best" by how it was in terms of innovation, I'd vote for the original Athlon.

 

[stargazr]

The market prices stocks mainly based on future earnings and growth potential.

Management is in transition so there is an element of uncertainty as to the future direction of the company.

Also right now almost the whole tech sector is down partly due to supply chain issues with Japan.

 

[Idontcare]

I'm trying to see the effect of AMD's success on it's stock value.

A noble goal but I fear you've set yourself on a fool's errand.

You can't really hope to establish a cause-and-effect relationship between something that is the subject of many many many inputs with only one of those inputs being a specific set of minimal features of a specific product group within the company.

There are a lot, thousands, of contributing inputs that go into the determination of a stock price (the output). Including the competitive landscape.

Have you ever heard of a "fishbone diagram"? They are also called "cause-and-effect diagrams".

I'm linking to the fishbone diagram on the wiki site, replace the "problem" on the right with "stock-price" (although, in a sad fit of irony, for AMD we could just leave it as "problem" with the problem being their stockprice ) and all the inputs on the left are just a mere tip of the iceberg of inputs that actually go into the markets deciding what AMD's stock price is at any point in time, historical or the future.

 

[Soulkeeper]

Stock markets are emotional and irrational by nature.
They represent "the hurd" mentality and don't always correlate to fundamentals or underlying company success/profits.

Although, if I was to say what I considered the best times for AMD i'd say AthlonXP socket A days without a doubt.

 

[Scotteq]

Stock Price is related to Business Performance: Increasing Sales, Increasing Market Share, etc.

Stock price is not at all related to how well a given widget works. Only to how many are/will be sold.

 

[wajed]

@Idontcare
I know a lot of factors affect stock price. I just thought a company's success would be the most important.
I can understand from you, now, that a company's success has little effect on it's stock price.

"Including the competitive landscape."
I understand. I know enough about Intel's future as much as I know about AMD's. And I know about the other (much less dangerous) competitor Nvidia.
I also know that ARM won't collide with x86 any time soon.

Why would being the first to anything matter to a stock price?

I meant "first dual-core". I said first since dual-core should have been great technology compared to previous CPU technologies, so it should have had great impact on AMD's stock prices.


"Stock price is not at all related to how well a given widget works. Only to how many are/will be sold."
Sure, I should have thought of this also.

 

[TuxDave]

What is the best AMD architecture/architectures?

I sure hope Bulldozer would be the answer to this question!

 

[Farmer]

If by best you mean, most significant, or most memorable, without delving into whatever the hell everyone else has been delving into in this thread, I'd say, in my opinion:

K7/Athlon 1 (destroyed PII/PIII), followed by K8/Athlon 64 (faster clock for clock than Netburst)

 

[JFAMD]

I have been in technology for 20 years and I can say with confidence that as much as I would like to believe that a product = share price, I have never seen it happen. Share prices are tied to business, not products.

 

[bryanW1995]

A noble goal but I fear you've set yourself on a fool's errand.

You can't really hope to establish a cause-and-effect relationship between something that is the subject of many many many inputs with only one of those inputs being a specific set of minimal features of a specific product group within the company.

There are a lot, thousands, of contributing inputs that go into the determination of a stock price (the output). Including the competitive landscape.

Have you ever heard of a "fishbone diagram"? They are also called "cause-and-effect diagrams".

I'm linking to the fishbone diagram on the wiki site, replace the "problem" on the right with "stock-price" (although, in a sad fit of irony, for AMD we could just leave it as "problem" with the problem being their stockprice ) and all the inputs on the left are just a mere tip of the iceberg of inputs that actually go into the markets deciding what AMD's stock price is at any point in time, historical or the future.

While technically that is all true, it's also true that a better cpu (relative to intel) in the past has generally led to AMD being more successful in the stock market. Far and away the greatest reason for AMD's stock peak in 2006 was their extremely competitive cpu architecture during the preceding 4 years, while intel only had rumors about how they were going to finally regain market dominance. This competitive cpu arch allowed AMD to gain contracts with companies like dell and compaq, spend billions more on research and acquisitions, etc etc. In the years since conroe came out, however, AMD has flailed about madly like an old elephant about to die, again largely because of their cpu performance. Maybe you could put a really large "CPU PERFORMANCE" section on that fishbone chart with smaller items like gpus, motherboards, people departing in droves, etc etc listed as well.

 

[DrJohnFever]

Lol. Feb. 24 wasnt the highest they have ever been either. I searched for about 2 minutes, and I came up with Feb. 2, 2006, May 12, 1997, and April-August of 2000.

 

[dma0991]

I doubt products alone can be a benchmark to see whether stock prices would increase.

Take for example within this year when the Cougar Point chipset bug was found, AMD's stock market rise. Then when there were rumor that Dell wanted to acquire AMD, the stock prices shot up again. None of these were related to AMD releasing new groundbreaking technology and yet the stock price went up.

However I would like to see how Bulldozer affects the market when it enters the market. Expect major price cuts for SB processors as well. :sneaky:

 

[wahdangun]

isn't right now amd have the fastest graphic card in the world? But i never seeing their stock price raise?

 

[IntelUser2000]

@Idontcare
I know a lot of factors affect stock price. I just thought a company's success would be the most important.

What do you think is the best way to call "success"?

It's money. Or in this case financials. That Feb 24 date you were talking about AMD had more marketshare than Intel in desktop retail systems.

 

[Phynaz]

Stock price = Anticipated future financial results.