Best name in surge protection

spittledip

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Hi,

What is the best name in power surge protection? APC? Any particular models people suggest? And what are the recommended specifications again?

thanks
 

Seekermeister

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Buy an APC. All that you need to do is to calculate the power being used by your equipment in watts, and buy one with that much wattage or more. You don't need to add in the printer, because it plugs into the surge protector portion. When you look at the chart on the box, it uses the wattage of an LCD, so if you use a CRT, you will need to add for that. The idea is to insure that the time on the battery is sufficient to let you shutdown normally without losing anything. Just in case you use x64, the PowerChute software is not compatable with it, unless you get a serial connection, instead of the USB. But for most people, the USB is fine.
 

pkme2

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I use a APC 650 and have an AVR combined in tandem on my workstation.

I use a Cyberpower 1250AVR for my computer cluster. The AVR (auto voltage regulator) which controls line voltage to computers, is a real necessity with today's fluctuating power sources.

You can do no better than going with APC, UPS or Cyberpower for backups. Google them and checkout their insurance coverages.
 

Rubycon

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Liebert, Deltec, Best-Power, SIB/Sola Group are respected names if you want the BEST. A ferroresonant transformer offers full galvanic isolation from the utility grid and unmatched noise and line distortion protection BOTH WAYS. So nasty computer loads will not leak back into the lines and affect other sensitive equipment.

Now if this is just for a PC your typical $100 UPS is most likely all you need.
 

Zepper

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If you buy better power supplies for your computers, you could get away with the cheaper battery backup type UPSes as the PSU itself can compensate for brownouts down to 100 or even 90 VAC in some cases. These usually also have active PFC (Power Factor Correction) and would be top line units in any PSU mfr's catalog.
. But APC, TrippLite, Powerware and CyberPower make decent UPS units - stay away from Belkin. If you don't have a PSU like the above, then you will want at least a "line-interactive" (fancy term for having some voltage compensation to keep things going w/o having to switch to battery) UPS. A step up from that also offers true sine wave output (the others have modified square wave outputs). Another step up has a ferro-resonant transformer that gives linear voltage compensation (the others have several fixed steps) over a fairly wide range before switching to battery and most have true sine wave output - The Best Power Ferrups was the best of these and is merged into the Powerware line). And the top of the UPS line (and really the only one worthy of the UPS label) is called 'full-time' - means that your system runs off battery power all the time and the AC connection is there just to keep the batteries charged, so your system is completely isolated from the AC line. These are also quite expensive and all that I know of give true sine wave power (good if you want to run something that uses a synchronous AC motor or doesn't work well on the modified square waves). Clary is a name that is highly regarded in the full-time UPS field - the others usually make them too (IDK about Cyber).
. Most of the same names also make decent surge suppressors. Plus, if you want the best, there is Zero Surge (zerosurge.com). It uses large capacitors and coils to really absorb the surge rather than switch it to the ground line as MOV (metal oxide varistor)-based suppressors do. Costs a pretty penny and are not widely available, but then the best seldom is.
. I like to have at least 1000 joules of suppression on the AC outlets alone (most UPSes also include a suppression stage and some outlets that are just filtered/suppressed besides the backed up outlets) - some have connections for phone, coax, etc. and add the joule values for each section together. Don't buy any that reports the joule value that way. Good to have some EMI/RFI filtering too starting at a low frequency like 100kHz with at least -3dB drop (cuts the power at that frequency in half) with the filtering rising rapidly from there.

.bh.
 

SGtheArtist

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I had a Belkin Universal 1100 UPS it was replaced when it sacrificed itself to save my hardware (short caused by a bad power cable). The replacement is the current Belkin equivalent.

That's the purpose though, to protect your hardware from electrical damage. Any current surge protector that has a Overvoltage Protection will protect your hardware. If a surge comes through it will fry the surge protector but not the items plugged into it. Generally the higher the joule rating the better the surge protector.

Also note that a surge protector and an UPS are two different things an UPS usually not only serves as a surge protector but also a battery backup so if the power cuts out the equipment runs off the battery until the battery charge is exhausted.

Disclaimer: I'm no specialist in the surge protection sector and this text simply represents my opinion and experience.
 

Rubycon

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LOL I don't think anyone here is going to have a Clary on their PC.
 

Zepper

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Hey MS,

Well, some folks here sound like John D. GotRocks or else they're operating with OPM (other people's money)...

Not many are gonna pop for a Ferrups either.

.bh.
 

spittledip

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I am not actually looking for UPC, just surge protection. My psu has active pfc and is fairly solid. Thanks for the replies. Any other specs I need to consider?
 

amdskip

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I use APC surge protectors on all of my systems and they seem to work great for me.
 

John

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I've been using CyberPower AVR's on all of my rigs for over 6 years and pimp them to my customers as well. You get a 3 yr. warranty, usb connection, and a nice software package to monitor the load/runtime/voltages/and more. When you need to RMA a unit it's hassle-free and the turnaround time is reasonable.

Amazon usually has the best prices (on certain models) and offers free shipping on most of them.
 

pkme2

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Our quirky weather here in Hawaii has everybody getting APC or UPS backups like crazy.
There're flying off the shelves at Costco and Office Max.
Earlier this year, we had that awful rain, thunder and lightening episode that wreak havoc in Hawaii. and just earlier this month a 6.5 earthquake.

Powerlines were down and people's unprotected computers were zapped back then and again this month. Computer burnouts were common everywhere. Those who had the backups with AVRs , survived for another day. It was better to have some protection, then none at all.
I don't question mother nature anymore. I just learned to say yes and I quess quite a few PC owners agreed. Sold out again.
 

spittledip

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I found a cyberpower that I am gonna get- has good specs and is fairly cheap. Thanks for the help

 
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