BF2142 Suxkage explained...

Miklebud

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Nov 20, 2002
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Yup, I can't play it either. It gives me some ****** about d3d or something. Thumbs down.
 

T-man

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Mar 6, 2001
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hey Junior member
I have the latest DX9 and the latest drivers and it STILL won't run...nice work EA :roll:
even if it ran, it still sucks as bad a BF2
I mean just the run / stamina thing alone is so freaking annoying it makes the game not worth playing, for me anyway
 

Trevelyan

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Dec 10, 2000
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Yeah that guy addresses my main frustration: the MENUS and SERVER BROWSER!!

I mean seriously, be wary of any game that the developers cannot even program an efficient, user-friendly menu system or server browser. How freakin complicated is that?
 

Maximilian

Lifer
Feb 8, 2004
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So... am i to understand that battlefield 2142 uses the same engine as battlefield 2? Which IMO looks utter sh**e, as i played the xbox360 version recently and i kept asking "is this battlefield 2?" "you serious?" "cmon whats the game REALLY called?" me and my mate who both play the pc version were stunned, our graphics are trash compared to that. Heh and 2142 wont be any better if it uses the same engine unless they modified it or somthing, like SAGE from the c&c series.
 

PauloSilva

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Oct 28, 2003
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Man. Now I KNOW that I won't be buying BF2142. BF2 was crap to me. THe GFX were plain, drab, and just...old. And the stamina thing, do we really need that? I mean BF1942 did just fine without it. Well, I'm just glad that I have BF1942 to fall back on
 

GundamSonicZeroX

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HOLY CRAP!!! Anandtech made me login as this "Paulo Silvia" dude!! wtf? How'd that happen? All of a sudden, it asked for my secret question, and then I noticed my post above ^ is not MINE!!!
 

datalink7

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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Didn't buy BF2, won't buy this. Too many other good games coming out this month and I don't have enough money anyway (Neverwinter 2, Dawn of War expansion to name two).
 

schneiderguy

Lifer
Jun 26, 2006
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Originally posted by: T-man
hey Junior member
I have the latest DX9 and the latest drivers and it STILL won't run...nice work EA :roll:
even if it ran, it still sucks as bad a BF2
I mean just the run / stamina thing alone is so freaking annoying it makes the game not worth playing, for me anyway

how do you know that it sucks if you cant even run it?

by the way, the not being able to run it problem is probably on your end.
 

Maximilian

Lifer
Feb 8, 2004
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Originally posted by: StevenNevets
Hows does BF2 look ******?
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/9759/bf2final2jz8.png


And while 2142 is the same engine, it's a good thing they didn't make anything more demanding because then not many could play.... However they did a few shader tweaks (reason you need to re-install DX9) which makes the game look slightly better... the game also playes better

A single nicely taken screenshot harldy sums up a games graphical appearance. Go run around the streets and alleys in karkand, look at the explosions a tank shell makes, or any explosive weapon makes, the graphics are trash compared to the xbox 360 version. When i saw a rocket explode in that it was impressive! Nothing like the crap excuse for an explosion you get on the pc version. BF2 looks crap... simple as.

Crysis will set a new standard of visuals, like farcry before it, hopefully quakewars and ut 2007 will take after it. Then we can all forget about bf 2142.
 

BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Hmm, lets see...innovations in BF2142:

-Titan mode, which I suppose is interesting
-Walkers, which are basically glorified tanks

That about sums it up! There are things I do like - the apc spawn is a good idea. The sound is just about damn near perfect.

My personal 10 top annoyances, in no particular order:

1. The obvious - BUGS. Crashing, losing connection to servers etc...polish the damn game already, it's about time.

2. Terrible interface. The thing is unresponsive, the menu has to load, it has to constant optimize shaders, and some options even force you to restart. The server browser is horrendous. The map/spawn system really needs work. The squad system is a good idea, but is so unintuitive, that 75% of people dont join one.

3. Sloppy objectives - It's just too open ended. There is no cohesion in the battle. Just a set of flags dispersed around, and now especially with apc spawns flying around, its just a matter of flags constantly switching sides. There's no linking, no front to the battle, just a general free for all. Titan mode is even worse. Once a shield goes down, its spread into two or three separate battlefields. Once the shields go down, do you try and keep the missles, attack their titan, or defend yours? Does it really matter, because everyone is going to be doing their own thing anyway? UT2004 did it right - power nodes were linked. The battles were focused and intense, and there was a real team effort going on.

4. Lack of teamplay - Due to the incoherency of the battlefield, there is little incentive for teamplay. Squads should be forced. As should a commander. TKing is rampant. The game just degenerates into a vehicle camp, cause its fun to fly. It's not fun to cap flags, because they never stay that way.

5. Vehicle system is absurd - The free for all vehicle system was bad in bf 1942, and its still bad. You're fairly useless without a vehicle, and they are so hard to come by, and so randomly dropped, that half the time is usually camping the vehicles. It should show where each vehicle spawns and how long till it spawns. You should then be able to reserve a spot in the next vehicle, or get in line. If you're still around when you get there, its yours. TKing will remove you from the line. And you shouldnt be able to get into the other team's vehicles unless you own the flag. And perhaps even some vehicles should be locked by rank. Result = no tking, no camping, no wasting of vehicles, no vehicle jacking at the enemy's base, and overall goodness.

6. Crappy infantry combat - This is the probably my single biggest gripe. You are essetially useless on foot. If you're on foot, its cause you couldnt find a vehicle. Even engineers are fairly defenseless against them...which would all be alright, if foot soldiers were actually effective against each other. Everyone is too slow, and cant sprint more than 20 feet. Unless you are prone, and firing 1 shot per second, at a target less than 100 feet from you, you are woefully inaccurate. Even then, it takes about 6 shots from an assault rifle to down someone. And shooting someone produces absolutely no reaction from your enemy. Its so robotic. How many times do I have to be 5 feet from someone, spraying a machine gun in their face, only to not kill them because I was moving around and my gun is basically shooting perpendicular? Every infantry battle ends up in either of two ways - two people meet each other at a distance, hit prone, and start to fire single shots at each other, hoping they hit the other guy 6 times first. Little skill to that. Or an up close and personal encounter, which is basically flip a coin, because it doesnt matter how close you are, or how much you are shooting, it only matters whether the god of battlefield decides that your bullets will actually hit something. It feels so disjointed and absurd, when it really should be the focus of the entire game.

7. Laggy netcode - Get into a vehicle with someone with a slow connection, and watch it jerk around. I'm tired of falling off buildings cause the netcode is so jerky, even with a 25 ping.

8. Boring weapons - This should be BF2042, at best. Theres nothing special about the weapons. They are reskinned BF2 weapons.

9. Lack of distinction between teams - The EU and PAC might as well be the same. Same weapons on each side, different skins. Very little difference overall.

10. Overall lack of polish - It just feels rushed. It feels like everyone just threw some good ideas together, and never actually PLAYED it. Never actually said, here's a problem, lets think about how we can fix it. Nope, instead just add another half-assed feature (eg. squads), instead of polishing the core game mechanics.

Since its basically the same game as BF2, I would have hoped they'd have it least tweaked it some. But its just a mod. It's a game with so many good ideas, and such flawed execution, its a crying shame. It could be brilliant, but it ends up settling for merely good but flawed.
 

tuteja1986

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Jun 1, 2005
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Its uses the same BF2 engine , all the developer did was a make a full mod for BF2 :! reason it sucks because it wasn't built from the ground up to be proper BF game ... see its the screw up like BF Vitenam was.
BF1942 = Best Dice game
BF Vietnam = Dice screw
BF2 = 2nd best dice game
BF2142 = 2nd Dice screw
next dice game with new engine = not screw up
 

gorcorps

aka Brandon
Jul 18, 2004
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When you add crap to a pile of crap... you don't get anything but a BIGGER PILE OF CRAP! WHY OH GOD WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN?!?!

And yes I got it to run fine, it just is a bad game. Plus if they really wanted to hook me with a demo they would let me unlock something so I could actually have some sort of fun. My dead relatives have more stamina than these "soldiers" and my friggin SOCKS are more futuristic than these damn guns. Nevermind the fact that an entire CS:S map loads faster than the Esc menu.
 

Stuxnet

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Jun 16, 2005
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It's going to be interesting to watch the fanboys try to defend EA on this one... BF2142 manages to one-up BF2 in the "WTF" department.
 

CVSiN

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Jul 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: Miklebud
Yup, I can't play it either. It gives me some ****** about d3d or something. Thumbs down.

Cant you read? you have to install DX9c when you install the game... sigh they try to help people out by keeping a download smaller and ya'll are soo dumb you dont read the directions.

 

CVSiN

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Jul 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: Soviet
So... am i to understand that battlefield 2142 uses the same engine as battlefield 2? Which IMO looks utter sh**e, as i played the xbox360 version recently and i kept asking "is this battlefield 2?" "you serious?" "cmon whats the game REALLY called?" me and my mate who both play the pc version were stunned, our graphics are trash compared to that. Heh and 2142 wont be any better if it uses the same engine unless they modified it or somthing, like SAGE from the c&c series.

Um the 360 does not use the same engine as the PC version...

and the version used in 2142 is not the same engine as the BF2 PC either.. read the interviews
 

Stuxnet

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Jun 16, 2005
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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Miklebud
Yup, I can't play it either. It gives me some ****** about d3d or something. Thumbs down.

Cant you read? you have to install DX9c when you install the game... sigh they try to help people out by keeping a download smaller and ya'll are soo dumb you dont read the directions.

Speaking of the devil...
 

CVSiN

Diamond Member
Jul 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: BD2003
Hmm, lets see...innovations in BF2142:

-Titan mode, which I suppose is interesting
-Walkers, which are basically glorified tanks

That about sums it up! There are things I do like - the apc spawn is a good idea. The sound is just about damn near perfect.

My personal 10 top annoyances, in no particular order:

1. The obvious - BUGS. Crashing, losing connection to servers etc...polish the damn game already, it's about time.

2. Terrible interface. The thing is unresponsive, the menu has to load, it has to constant optimize shaders, and some options even force you to restart. The server browser is horrendous. The map/spawn system really needs work. The squad system is a good idea, but is so unintuitive, that 75% of people dont join one.

3. Sloppy objectives - It's just too open ended. There is no cohesion in the battle. Just a set of flags dispersed around, and now especially with apc spawns flying around, its just a matter of flags constantly switching sides. There's no linking, no front to the battle, just a general free for all. Titan mode is even worse. Once a shield goes down, its spread into two or three separate battlefields. Once the shields go down, do you try and keep the missles, attack their titan, or defend yours? Does it really matter, because everyone is going to be doing their own thing anyway? UT2004 did it right - power nodes were linked. The battles were focused and intense, and there was a real team effort going on.

4. Lack of teamplay - Due to the incoherency of the battlefield, there is little incentive for teamplay. Squads should be forced. As should a commander. TKing is rampant. The game just degenerates into a vehicle camp, cause its fun to fly. It's not fun to cap flags, because they never stay that way.

5. Vehicle system is absurd - The free for all vehicle system was bad in bf 1942, and its still bad. You're fairly useless without a vehicle, and they are so hard to come by, and so randomly dropped, that half the time is usually camping the vehicles. It should show where each vehicle spawns and how long till it spawns. You should then be able to reserve a spot in the next vehicle, or get in line. If you're still around when you get there, its yours. TKing will remove you from the line. And you shouldnt be able to get into the other team's vehicles unless you own the flag. And perhaps even some vehicles should be locked by rank. Result = no tking, no camping, no wasting of vehicles, no vehicle jacking at the enemy's base, and overall goodness.

6. Crappy infantry combat - This is the probably my single biggest gripe. You are essetially useless on foot. If you're on foot, its cause you couldnt find a vehicle. Even engineers are fairly defenseless against them...which would all be alright, if foot soldiers were actually effective against each other. Everyone is too slow, and cant sprint more than 20 feet. Unless you are prone, and firing 1 shot per second, at a target less than 100 feet from you, you are woefully inaccurate. Even then, it takes about 6 shots from an assault rifle to down someone. And shooting someone produces absolutely no reaction from your enemy. Its so robotic. How many times do I have to be 5 feet from someone, spraying a machine gun in their face, only to not kill them because I was moving around and my gun is basically shooting perpendicular? Every infantry battle ends up in either of two ways - two people meet each other at a distance, hit prone, and start to fire single shots at each other, hoping they hit the other guy 6 times first. Little skill to that. Or an up close and personal encounter, which is basically flip a coin, because it doesnt matter how close you are, or how much you are shooting, it only matters whether the god of battlefield decides that your bullets will actually hit something. It feels so disjointed and absurd, when it really should be the focus of the entire game.

7. Laggy netcode - Get into a vehicle with someone with a slow connection, and watch it jerk around. I'm tired of falling off buildings cause the netcode is so jerky, even with a 25 ping.

8. Boring weapons - This should be BF2042, at best. Theres nothing special about the weapons. They are reskinned BF2 weapons.

9. Lack of distinction between teams - The EU and PAC might as well be the same. Same weapons on each side, different skins. Very little difference overall.

10. Overall lack of polish - It just feels rushed. It feels like everyone just threw some good ideas together, and never actually PLAYED it. Never actually said, here's a problem, lets think about how we can fix it. Nope, instead just add another half-assed feature (eg. squads), instead of polishing the core game mechanics.

Since its basically the same game as BF2, I would have hoped they'd have it least tweaked it some. But its just a mod. It's a game with so many good ideas, and such flawed execution, its a crying shame. It could be brilliant, but it ends up settling for merely good but flawed.


Man.. you really dont know how to play BF at all...
this is a team game... quit playing with idiots and join a clan that all has set duties..
the games are fantastic for modeling what a battlefield is really like... there are always multiple fronts in any war... nothing is ever like Unreal... which is a complete POS for a war game..

If you join a clan.. and choose a job you wish to do for every game you play is like me Medic.. you are placed in a perm squad that you do everything with...
the clan has its set pilots which are the best at what they do noone else touches them...

You have your armoured platoon and they provide vehcile support..

you can be very effective as a squad as infantry if everyone knows thier jobs and knows thier class..
quit playing on smacktard open servers ...

get organized and the games are alot of fun..


 

skace

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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Havn't played it, but the games probably pretty decent. Considering the worst complaints are still things like the ingame server browser and menu system.

I gotta admit though, Dice codes a pretty freaking horrific menu system. I really wish I knew how they pulled off such a crappy menu system that it takes seconds to open it.
 

Czar

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: skace
Havn't played it, but the games probably pretty decent. Considering the worst complaints are still things like the ingame server browser and menu system.

I gotta admit though, Dice codes a pretty freaking horrific menu system. I really wish I knew how they pulled off such a crappy menu system that it takes seconds to open it.

I think the biggest complaints are that instead of fixing what is broken they just release new content.

Simply the long long search for more money, they have already milked most of what they can from bf2 so they move on.
 
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