Big Screen Recommendation

TheCrashMaster

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I just got my income tax refund and scored $4,000. Now I want to buy a big screen. Here are my requirements:

1) 60 inches, plus or minus 5 inches.
2) To be used as a computer monitor, not a lot, but some.

What specific options do I want to make sure come on this TV?
 

jpeyton

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Sony SXRD; around $1900 for a 55", a few hundred more for a 60".

Samsung 1080P LED DLP is a close second.
 

IronWing

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You need to adjust your exemptions. Loaning the govt $4000 interest free ain't too good a deal.

I second the projector and screen. Who wants to look at a big ugly TV all the time?
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: ironwing
I second the projector and screen. Who wants to look at a big ugly TV all the time?
Who wants to draw their curtains and turn out the lights every time they want to watch TV?
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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"scored $4000?" I think you mean that you gave an interest free loan to the govt

Anyway, I'll let this go, discussion is about TV's
 

MagicConch

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I am waiting for Sony XBR3, it looks fantastic, only 12" deep (LCOS), all black, 1080p, hdmi 1.3 with deep color, and it literally supports RSS,etc directly on the TV with an ethernet hookup (attachable little box) right to the television. $4k will definitely get 60" but it won't be available until October
 

pennylane

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Originally posted by: MagicConch
I am waiting for Sony XBR3, it looks fantastic, only 12" deep (LCOS), all black, 1080p, hdmi 1.3 with deep color, and it literally supports RSS,etc directly on the TV with an ethernet hookup (attachable little box) right to the television. $4k will definitely get 60" but it won't be available until October

I think the 2007 SXRD's (LCoS) are called the XBR5, actually. The XBR3 is their LCD rear projection, or something? I'm not entirely sure. Anyway, I'm also waiting for these models, though I'm waiting for the A3000 series because I don't have space in my apartment for anything bigger than 50".

The 2007 SXRD's are divided into the A3000's, which are 50" and 55". The XBR5 (i think it's XBR5) are 60"-70". The XBR5 also supposedly has better picture quality than the A3000, but I'm not sure if that's confirmed and I'm confident that the A3000 still will have equal or better picture quality than the 2006 XBR2/A2000 series.

A3000 also comes out in July/August while the 2007 XBR's come out in October. Only a couple months away!!
 
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Originally posted by: fanerman91
Originally posted by: MagicConch
I am waiting for Sony XBR3, it looks fantastic, only 12" deep (LCOS), all black, 1080p, hdmi 1.3 with deep color, and it literally supports RSS,etc directly on the TV with an ethernet hookup (attachable little box) right to the television. $4k will definitely get 60" but it won't be available until October

I think it's called the XBR5, actually. The XBR3 is their LCD rear projection, or something? I'm not entirely sure. Anyway, I'm also waiting for these models, though I'm waiting for the A3000 series because I don't have space in my apartment for anything bigger than 50".

*The 2007 SXRD's are divided into the A3000's, which are 50" and 55". The XBR5 (i think it's XBR5) are 60"-70". The XBR5 also supposedly has better picture quality than the A3000, but I'm not sure if that's confirmed and I'm confident that the A3000 still will have equal or better picture quality than the 2006 XBR2/A2000 series.

A3000 also comes out in July/August while the 2007 XBR's come out in October. Only a couple months away!!

LCD Projections vs. LCD screens = Intel Pentium 2 vs Core 2 Duo.

With $4000, I would get a plasma. I don't see why everyone starts recommending DLPs and all the sort.

Didn't we just have an LCD vs Plasma debate? The consensus was if you have the money, you're going to shoot for LCDs or Plasmas, and if you really have the money, Plasma. $4000 is not some mini budget TV expense. I bought my Bravia XBR2 for under $4000, so I believe you should be going for something high end like a Pioneer Elite.

Edit: Ok, if you insist on 60" that's what you'll get. I had room for a 60" TV to replace our aging projection tube systen, and well I decided that getting something smaller but of higher quality is more important to me than another monstruous decent image quality screen. I settled on the Sony Bravia 46" XBR2 for that reason. The Pioneer Elite was a close 2nd choice. I regret not getting the Pioneer.
 

pennylane

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Originally posted by: DLeRium
LCD Projections vs. LCD screens = Intel Pentium 2 vs Core 2 Duo.

With $4000, I would get a plasma. I don't see why everyone starts recommending DLPs and all the sort.

Didn't we just have an LCD vs Plasma debate? The consensus was if you have the money, you're going to shoot for LCDs or Plasmas, and if you really have the money, Plasma. $4000 is not some mini budget TV expense. I bought my Bravia XBR2 for under $4000, so I believe you should be going for something high end like a Pioneer Elite.

Edit: Ok, if you insist on 60" that's what you'll get. I had room for a 60" TV to replace our aging projection tube systen, and well I decided that getting something smaller but of higher quality is more important to me than another monstruous decent image quality screen. I settled on the Sony Bravia 46" XBR2 for that reason. The Pioneer Elite was a close 2nd choice. I regret not getting the Pioneer.

DLeRium,

I'm not sure if there's any confusion about technology names, but just to make sure:
Bravia XBR2 = LCD.
XBR2 = SXRD/LCoS (SXRD is Sony's name for the LCoS technology, which is a rear projection like a DLP, but different and without the rainbow effect).
XBR3 = rumored to be LCD/LCD rear projection
XBR5 = rumored to be SXRD

I'm not gonna talk about LCD rear projection because LCD rear projection as I understand it, well, sucks.

I don't know what the ATOT consensus is, but I read a lot of AVS forum (and TV technology is more their thing than ATOT's) and from what I read, many people prefer LCoS/DLP over plasma and certainly over LCD in the sub $3k and even sub $4k range. LCoS/DLP (well, I mainly know about LCoS because I'm interested in the Sony SXRD) have blacker blacks and more vibrant colors, 1080p, 1:1 pixel mapping so they're usable as PC monitors. They just aren't as thin and the viewing angles aren't as good.

I think LCD has the worst picture quality out of all the new technologies (blacks aren't as black, colors aren't as vibrant). It just happens to be convenient (thin, better viewing angles, no burn-in, no rainbows, usable as a PC monitor, etc).

Plasmas (in the < $3k range) are also more convenient but I don't think their PQ is as good as LCoS either. They also suffer from image retention and aren't as effective as PC monitors because 1:1 pixel mapping is more difficult to achieve. In the < $3k range, an LCoS of equal price as a plasma would look better AND be a bigger screen. Perhaps the Pioneer Elites look better than LCoS, but they also cost significantly more, and the screen is smaller.

Bottom line: A 60" LCoS is by no means a "monstrous decent image." If properly calibrated, it can look AMAZING and certainly better than LCD's. It's main drawbacks are that it's not as thin and the viewing angles aren't as good. But in no way are you compromising PQ for size. You're only compromising convenience.
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: ironwing
I second the projector and screen. Who wants to look at a big ugly TV all the time?
Who wants to draw their curtains and turn out the lights every time they want to watch TV?

Depends what you're watching.
 

MagicConch

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Originally posted by: fanerman91
Originally posted by: MagicConch
I am waiting for Sony XBR3, it looks fantastic, only 12" deep (LCOS), all black, 1080p, hdmi 1.3 with deep color, and it literally supports RSS,etc directly on the TV with an ethernet hookup (attachable little box) right to the television. $4k will definitely get 60" but it won't be available until October

I think the 2007 SXRD's (LCoS) are called the XBR5, actually. The XBR3 is their LCD rear projection, or something? I'm not entirely sure. Anyway, I'm also waiting for these models, though I'm waiting for the A3000 series because I don't have space in my apartment for anything bigger than 50".

The 2007 SXRD's are divided into the A3000's, which are 50" and 55". The XBR5 (i think it's XBR5) are 60"-70". The XBR5 also supposedly has better picture quality than the A3000, but I'm not sure if that's confirmed and I'm confident that the A3000 still will have equal or better picture quality than the 2006 XBR2/A2000 series.

A3000 also comes out in July/August while the 2007 XBR's come out in October. Only a couple months away!!


Oh yes, you are right, thanks for the correction. I am getting the 70" XBR5. I probably would consider a A3000 70" if they had one though. I think there is a different digital processing but they both will support hdmi deep color, the same improved cabinet, as well many other features.
 

pennylane

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On projectors...

If you can control light very well and have the space, definitely look into getting a projector. It's harder to use for normal TV watching, or perhaps computer use, but it's great for movie watching (actually, computer use is doable on most projectors, because even 720p projectors are actually 1280x720. 720p plasmas, for example, are 1366x768 and can only accept 720p signals and not 768p signals, so 1:1 pixel mapping often doesn't work with 720p plasmas, but it can with 720p projectors).

Projectors are also pretty cheap. You can get some really good projectors for less than $2k, and if you have $4k to spend, you can get something that looks outstanding. The picture quality isn't AS good as an actual HDTV, but it can still be excellent. And a 100" screen really does make up for the picture quality. A projector can offer greater immersion than an actual HDTV, and isn't that the bottom line?

That said, it's hard to make the accommodations necessary to make a projector worthwhile, so it's understandable if it's not practical. But the price/performance ratio of a projector can't be beat.
 
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