Bill Bennett quote

[Moonbeam]

I think his point is that Blacks are having a disproportionate number of abortions and that is the connection between abortion and a drop in crime.

At any rate, it is a very uncomfortable fact, for anti abortion nuts, that when abortion is made available the crime rate shows a marked drop in about 19 years.

 

[Taggart]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus


Maybe because per capita, blacks commit more crimes than whites?

Link? Seriously, I haven't seen a study to that effect before.

Bureau of Justice stats.

From the Bureau of Justice link: an estimated 32% of black males will enter State or Federal prison during their lifetime

holy crap!

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus


Maybe because per capita, blacks commit more crimes than whites?

Link? Seriously, I haven't seen a study to that effect before.

Bureau of Justice stats.

From the Bureau of Justice link: an estimated 32% of black males will enter State or Federal prison during their lifetime

holy crap!

Remember.. this is also partially based on the lack of resources available to them to hire GOOD LAWYERS... and the racism still held by juries and prosecutors and law enforcement officials.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
Hate to rain on you knee-jerk non-thinkers' parades, but his logic is sound - so sound it's basically a duh statement.

Want to reduce crime in a city? Kill everyone living there. Obviously, that will reduce crime, because there will be no one to commit crime.

Of course, there is the qualifying statement the folks above must've missed, "That would be an impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down."

It's an apparent fact that yes, legalization of abortion does drop crime rates, not only because abortion is no longer a crime, but as the study he was criticizing stated, there are fewer unwanted children whose parents are forced into illegal activity to support them, and fewer unwanted children growing up in homes with parents who are derelict in raising their children. He paints a false analogy. But what do you expect from a moral compass that points straight to the poker table?

White people don't commit crimes? Sure, he didn't say 'you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would drop to 0,' but why did he have to say BLACK babies?

Not near the rate of blacks. Go look at some FBI stats. 20x the murder and armed robbery rates as whites. In fact whites in USA don't commit much more crime than thier lilly white counterparts in New Zealand, Switzerland and other "model" nations. Deal with it.

I don't know why he'd make such an obvious statment though if he's not willing to carry out his eugenic program. Can only invite racist charges.:roll: Our problem in this country is giving them free benefits, housing them in crime infested areas and finishing off thier adolecent education with crimminal finishing school called prison. We need to address the problem with more benovolence, instruction and tuff love IMHO. Work = get somthing. Don't work don't get nothing. Also lealizing drugs would help tremendously taking profit motive and gangland activity out of the inner city equation..

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Vadatajs

Originally posted by: conjur
AM radio talking heads spew nothing but hatred. How else would they get the morans to listen to them and keep their ratings up?

It's MORON!!! Jesus fvcking Christ!!!!*

*Unless, of course, you're referring to the towns in TX, MI and WY.

Huh.. Conservatives who protest Peace Rallies spell it MORANS

http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/images1/morans.jpg

just curious, what makes you think these people are conservatives?

like this one:

he's a conservative, what do you expect.

people just throw out the word liberal and conservative without even realizing that it doesn't sound good. know a person first, then label him as such.

Bennet is a conservative though but him being a conservative factor into what he said

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus


Maybe because per capita, blacks commit more crimes than whites?

Link? Seriously, I haven't seen a study to that effect before.

Bureau of Justice stats.

Interesting link, but like most statistics, I don't think it says what you think it says

The link suggests a greater percentage of blacks go to jail than do whites. If there is an exclusive relationship between going to jail and committing a crime, then yes, your conclusion is valid. However, there are other factors that probably influence your chances of going to jail, my guess is that the chance of going to jail IF you commit a crime is not the same for all people.

I'm not saying your conclusion isn't true, I'm just saying that study hardly proves it

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

IMO this is yet another instance of how conservative radio hosts seem to be in an arms race to out-conservative one another. Another example is Rush Limbaugh's recent reference to Mayor Nagin as "Mayor Nager."

 

[Jadow]

this is basically why I have changed my tune on abortion. I've given in to the fact that most aborted babies are the offspring of undesireables, and have a high chance of themselves becoming undesireables.

Imagine how much worse Katrina would have been if there had been no abortion? There'd have been about 20,000 more people staying in their houses waiting to be rescued or out looting stuff.

Also, more abortions = less democrats so I'm all for that.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Jadow
this is basically why I have changed my tune on abortion. I've given in to the fact that most aborted babies are the offspring of undesireables, and have a high chance of themselves becoming undesireables.

Imagine how much worse Katrina would have been if there had been no abortion? There'd have been about 20,000 more people staying in their houses waiting to be rescued or out looting stuff.

Also, more abortions = less democrats so I'm all for that.

Is there something in the air today that's bringing out all the hate-filled trolls?

 

[Jadow]

I have no hatred for any law abiding citizen

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Jadow
I have no hatred for any law abiding citizen

Do you look in the mirror very often?

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Jadow
this is basically why I have changed my tune on abortion. I've given in to the fact that most aborted babies are the offspring of undesireables, and have a high chance of themselves becoming undesireables.

Imagine how much worse Katrina would have been if there had been no abortion? There'd have been about 20,000 more people staying in their houses waiting to be rescued or out looting stuff.

Also, more abortions = less democrats so I'm all for that.

If possible, could you maybe sound a little more like Hitler? Serious..."undesirables"...

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

I'm not saying your conclusion isn't true, I'm just saying that study hardly proves it

...there's more than just stats on who goes to prison on the website. :wine:

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Jadow
I have no hatred for any law abiding citizen

Bush basher.

 

[Moonbeam]

But we need undesirables in order to have somebody to feel superior to.

 

[HomerJS]

How about shooting all White Jewish males over 50 in the head to stop high profile white collar crime. Since we're going down this road.

 

[Pepsei]

he must be a liberal, he supports abortion.


seriously, he's got some balls to say something like that in public.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: HomerJS
How about shooting all White Jewish males over 50 in the head to stop high profile white collar crime. Since we're going down this road.

????
I seem to have noticed the high profile white collar crime is mostly committed by Waspy Christians... do you think we have enough bullets to shoot them all?

The statistics that show more crime as a percentage based on skin color compared to population may be a result of racism. Not necessarily in bias in arrests but in the experience of black people living in America.
Not to mention if you look at crime by wealth you see a far greater correllation. The poor committ more crimes. White or Black.

 

[TheGameIs21]

Is anyone that damned him at first willing to listen and comment on his interview at foxnews.com on H & C? Besides, he stated that it was a morally reprehensible thing in the first place so I don't get the issue. He never stated anything that would lead a logical thinking person to say "He's racist" unless they just listened to the libs in congress only half quote his statement.

I can take any statement made by Ghandi and make him sound like a death loving Hitler if I don't use his statements in context. Not that I expect most people on this board to understand a statement can be true, negative AND not supported by the person that makes the statement. That would be insensitive and should never be spoken. It might offend someone that isn't able to use logic to understand what is being said.

 

[slyedog]

the libs asked for a link to the article and they got one. now they have made every excuse why these stats are wrong. bennett's words were blunt, but they were true.
but the bleeding heart libs would rather you tell a lie under the guise of social justice.

 

[Red Dawn]

That's like saying if you want to curtail terrorism just nuke every Muslim Country to smithereens.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: TheGameIs21
Is anyone that damned him at first willing to listen and comment on his interview at foxnews.com on H & C? Besides, he stated that it was a morally reprehensible thing in the first place so I don't get the issue. He never stated anything that would lead a logical thinking person to say "He's racist" unless they just listened to the libs in congress only half quote his statement.

I can take any statement made by Ghandi and make him sound like a death loving Hitler if I don't use his statements in context. Not that I expect most people on this board to understand a statement can be true, negative AND not supported by the person that makes the statement. That would be insensitive and should never be spoken. It might offend someone that isn't able to use logic to understand what is being said.

Do you think the Black Community is going to look at it that way? As a spokesman and Champion for the Conservative movement in America I think it was a very stupid thing for him to say.

 

[BarneyFife]

This is what MOST of the right wing believes in. Bennett is now a national hero for the Republican party.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: HomerJS
How about shooting all White Jewish males over 50 in the head to stop high profile white collar crime. Since we're going down this road.

i think someone tried to do that couple decades ago

 

[Genx87]

lmao this feeding frenzy is hilarious.