bill to decriminalize personal marijuana

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: ShawnD1

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim.

But thats assuming the fact that they've prove beyond a ddoubt that operating a vehicle after toking has severely impaired drivers and caused many many deaths and injuries. Which won't ever happen because it simply isn't true.

I don't know about that. I drove while high just last week and I can say with absolute confidence that I was severely impaired. We ended up stopping at a Wendy's, getting some food, and walking around for about an hour until I felt I was capable of driving again.

Well then you're an idiot

Weed impairs motor functions. Your reaction time is slower and your driving performance suffers as a consequence. That's a fact. You shouldn't drive after toking up.

He's an idiot for pulling over and waiting until he was sober again? You're so utterly asinine. By your logic, once a drunk driver gets behind the wheel they shouldn't stop for ANY reason even if they feel it would be safer to wait and sober up.

Go die in a fire, seriously.

not a fact. Everyone is difference, but the great thing is you know how it effects you.
I've known people who smoked and then went on to throw a baseball, frisbee, football, etc, or driven, or numerous other things that require motor function, and not had a slight bit of delay.
It seems to kind of be a thing where, it does where you want it to do based on your mood. Want to go on an adventure? No problem. Or get so high that it's hard to even stand up from the couch? Easy. lol My friends have all exhibited the different styles of 'stonedness'. I'm usually around them when drinking btw, so I see their behavior pretty easily, not to mention they communicate how they feel quite often. lol
When its sunny and warm outside, it always tends to be a smoke and go do something day for them.

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[BudAshes]

Weed helps me drive. Whenever I am driving a decent distance I toke up. No different than smoking a tobacco cigarette and driving. Plus it reduces my need to murder the ass hats on their cell phones completely ignoring traffic laws. That has to be good for my long term health.

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: BudAshes
Weed helps me drive. Whenever I am driving a decent distance I toke up. No different than smoking a tobacco cigarette and driving. Plus it reduces my need to murder the ass hats on their cell phones completely ignoring traffic laws. That has to be good for my long term health.

:laugh:

 

[MetalMat]

Originally posted by: sutahz
Personal marijuana as opposed to corporate marijuana? Or perhaps military marjijuana?
I dont smoke, I do drink. If alcohol was made illegal again I'd be fine and not make a fuss. Why do people want more drugs in a country?
How do drugs (not prescription) benefit a society?

The government should not be involved in the matter of making these things illegal.

 

[Modelworks]

All the people that support this bill should march on Washington.
Unfortunately that might not be a pretty sight.
Lots of baked people marching in the streets

 

[Regs]

Wonder what the pope has to say about all of this?!?

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
I posted this in P&N also. I think that it is a major step in the right direction. The ironic thing is that it will ultimately get defeated by Republicans who preach individual rights/responsibilities, state's rights and sound fiscal policy. None of which are accomplished by having these laws on the books.

:roll:

Nice try, partisan hack. Democrats will join in lockstep with the Republicans to shoot this down. Your heroes are hypocrites. Face facts.

 

[sourceninja]

Pffft. Everybody knows pot is only illegal because it hurts the cotton industry. Or something

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: Regs
Wonder what the pope has to say about all of this?!?

i like his hat.

you put yer weed in it.

 

[40Hands]

I would just like to say that I find it great that arguments with "stupid stoners" are always lost by the prohibition crowd. We are just so dumb after the marijuana destroys our brains.

My 4/20 was great btw! Perfect day for it and I went to see a show last night. You should of seen all the fights that were ready to break out at this place. Damn you marijuana and the violence you cause.

 

[James Bond]

Originally posted by: zach0624
This is my view on pot.

Out of my school of 600 kids I could pick out everykid who smokes pot regularly and gaurantee with over 95% certainty that they get below a 1.5 GPA(which in my school is practically gauranteed if you show up). Pot is horrible for your lungs, according to my mom who is a doctor has no benefits over a prescription drug, and it ruins your motivation.

My uncle killed himself drinking and smoking pot and no matter what people say it is addicting, he even talked to me about this subject that he could never stop chasing his first high.

Wow. What kind of school do you go to?

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Vic
If cotton flowers could get you high, should we outlaw cotton too? And then try to exterminate the plant into extinction as well?

No? But that's exactly what we've done with hemp, a plant with even more agricultural value and longer use by humans than cotton.

And this, folks, is but a small example of why the drug warriors are among the stupidest, most evil people on this planet.

These are the same people who allow a federal expemtion to protect cigarettes and keep them out of the hands of the FDA.

Because we should expand the drug war by outlawing tobacco too?

Both drugs being manipulated by corrupt politicians and special interests, only difference is the one that is truly dangerous to your health and far more costly to society is protected by federal law. One question the FDA would ask is do the benefits outweigh the risk, how do you think cigs would stand up to that simple scrutiny? I hardly see people resorting to the black market to maintain a cig habit.

Our farmers, our economy, are being denied the right to grow a very valuable, plant solely to protect the bottom line of certain industries.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
All the people that support this bill should march on Washington.
Unfortunately that might not be a pretty sight.
Lots of baked people marching in the streets

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=3418

Marijuana is the third most popular recreational drug in America (behind only alcohol and tobacco), and has been used by nearly 80 million Americans. According to government surveys, some 20 million Americans have smoked marijuana in the past year, and more than 11 million do so regularly despite harsh laws against its use.

If 80+ million people marched on Washington it would create some momentum for the legalization effort.

 

[40Hands]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Modelworks
All the people that support this bill should march on Washington.
Unfortunately that might not be a pretty sight.
Lots of baked people marching in the streets

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=3418

Marijuana is the third most popular recreational drug in America (behind only alcohol and tobacco), and has been used by nearly 80 million Americans. According to government surveys, some 20 million Americans have smoked marijuana in the past year, and more than 11 million do so regularly despite harsh laws against its use.

If 80+ million people marched on Washington it would create some momentum for the legalization effort.

I bet we would see some faces drop when people saw the actual crowd that tokes. "Hey, that's our accounting manager!"

 

[sourceninja]

Originally posted by: zach0624
This is my view on pot.

Out of my school of 600 kids I could pick out everykid who smokes pot regularly and gaurantee with over 95% certainty that they get below a 1.5 GPA(which in my school is practically gauranteed if you show up). Pot is horrible for your lungs, according to my mom who is a doctor has no benefits over a prescription drug, and it ruins your motivation.

My uncle killed himself drinking and smoking pot and no matter what people say it is addicting, he even talked to me about this subject that he could never stop chasing his first high.

Eddie Bravo would disagree with you, so would Nick Diaz and Diego Sanchez. All of them were/are top level athletes who smoke pot. If it hurt cardio, they would not be top athletes.

Here is the training regimate of a very strong pot advocate and user:


?My typical day starts off with a thirty to fifty mile bike ride, then a five to seven mile run. After that I take a break. Then I go do a boxing workout and practice jujitsu five, six or sometimes seven days a week.?

It's obvious pot ruins your cardio and motivation. I should point out that Nick's THC level was 4 times higher then anyone the athletic commission has ever tested.

Of course we also assume MJ needs to be smoked for it's effect. There is no reason why for medical uses you could use a vaporizer. Then there is no smoke issues.

In terms of intelligence. We have presidents who smoked pot, top scholars who have smoked. I bet more then half of anyone who grew up in the 60's has done it. Most everyone I knew did it. And most of us are all fine.

Yes like anything there is always a chance of addiction. I myself have a video game addiction. But we shouldn't ban vidoe games. I also have a addiction to fighting. I start to feel physically ill if I do not fight at least once a week (sport fighting that is, grappling, boxing, mma sparing, something). Should we ban athletics? Booze? Smokes? Sleeping Pills? Far more kids die from over the counter medicine then pot. In fact I have never read any reports of a kid dying from smoking pot. The real reason so many losers smoke pot is not because pot makes them a loser, it is because they are trying to be cool.

 

[sourceninja]

Originally posted by: 40Hands

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Modelworks
All the people that support this bill should march on Washington.
Unfortunately that might not be a pretty sight.
Lots of baked people marching in the streets

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=3418

Marijuana is the third most popular recreational drug in America (behind only alcohol and tobacco), and has been used by nearly 80 million Americans. According to government surveys, some 20 million Americans have smoked marijuana in the past year, and more than 11 million do so regularly despite harsh laws against its use.

If 80+ million people marched on Washington it would create some momentum for the legalization effort.

I bet we would see some faces drop when people saw the actual crowd that tokes. "Hey, that's our accounting manager!"

I don't even smoke, but I'd support the right of anyone who wants to. Although I won't eat at restaurants who allow smoke to get to me while I'm eating. You want to march to free pot, I'm game.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: zach0624
This is my view on pot.

Out of my school of 600 kids I could pick out everykid who smokes pot regularly and gaurantee with over 95% certainty that they get below a 1.5 GPA(which in my school is practically gauranteed if you show up). Pot is horrible for your lungs, according to my mom who is a doctor has no benefits over a prescription drug, and it ruins your motivation.

My uncle killed himself drinking and smoking pot and no matter what people say it is addicting, he even talked to me about this subject that he could never stop chasing his first high.

in stark contrast to that BS you just posted, 8 of the top 10 students in my HS, 4.0+ GPA all smoked weed daily, same at my college, the valedictorian smoked all the time, he also did shrooms and acid when he wanted, he?s now at Princeton getting his PHD in Physics

Its medicinal uses are well documented from relieving pain, helping with glaucoma, getting people to eat who have no appetite & eating disorders

your uncle prob killed himself because he was a depressed alcoholic which has nothing to do with weed

 

[Demo24]

Originally posted by: sourceninja

Originally posted by: zach0624
This is my view on pot.

Out of my school of 600 kids I could pick out everykid who smokes pot regularly and gaurantee with over 95% certainty that they get below a 1.5 GPA(which in my school is practically gauranteed if you show up). Pot is horrible for your lungs, according to my mom who is a doctor has no benefits over a prescription drug, and it ruins your motivation.

My uncle killed himself drinking and smoking pot and no matter what people say it is addicting, he even talked to me about this subject that he could never stop chasing his first high.

Eddie Bravo would disagree with you, so would Nick Diaz and Diego Sanchez. All of them were/are top level athletes who smoke pot. If it hurt cardio, they would not be top athletes.

Here is the training regimate of a very strong pot advocate and user:


?My typical day starts off with a thirty to fifty mile bike ride, then a five to seven mile run. After that I take a break. Then I go do a boxing workout and practice jujitsu five, six or sometimes seven days a week.?

It's obvious pot ruins your cardio and motivation. I should point out that Nick's THC level was 4 times higher then anyone the athletic commission has ever tested.

Of course we also assume MJ needs to be smoked for it's effect. There is no reason why for medical uses you could use a vaporizer. Then there is no smoke issues.

In terms of intelligence. We have presidents who smoked pot, top scholars who have smoked. I bet more then half of anyone who grew up in the 60's has done it. Most everyone I knew did it. And most of us are all fine.

Yes like anything there is always a chance of addiction. I myself have a video game addiction. But we shouldn't ban vidoe games. I also have a addiction to fighting. I start to feel physically ill if I do not fight at least once a week (sport fighting that is, grappling, boxing, mma sparing, something). Should we ban athletics? Booze? Smokes? Sleeping Pills? Far more kids die from over the counter medicine then pot. In fact I have never read any reports of a kid dying from smoking pot. The real reason so many losers smoke pot is not because pot makes them a loser, it is because they are trying to be cool.

yeah, well while that sounds wonderful it's not correct. Doing those kind of training schedules will help the body to overcome the adverse effects of smoking. It's common knowledge that after you stop smoking cigs, the more you exercise the faster and better your body will recover. Pot is no different, and in fact it's 20 times worse for you than cigs(recent report, go find it if you want).

Not to forget that the act of smoking pot is addictive(there are millions each year that get addicted, read a psych report on it) but also incredibly dangerous to those with families that have histories of mental illnesses. Smoking pot puts you at a significantly higher risk of developing schizophrenic symptoms and also many other mental illnesses.

I don't feel like spending the time to go hunt down these articles, but they are all over the place. Search for them if you want.

 

[Ns1]

Not to forget that smoking pot is not only addictive

Marijuana is not physically addictive in the same sense as heroin, coke, meth. It is mentally addictive just like sex, money, gambling, food, video games, etc, etc, etc.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: DEMO24

, and in fact it's 20 times worse for you than cigs(recent report, go find it if you want).

.

i want to see this report, because im guessing it compaired someone smoking something like 20 joints in a day or some abnormal BS

yes 1 single joint when smoked contains more tar then 1 sig, however the avg smoker smokes ~1/2 a pack a day, average weed smoker smokes 1-2 times a day, theres a HUGE difference

also smoking through a vaoprizer or water bong cuts out the nasty shit by like 90%

and the "its bad for you" arguement is stupid because people are willingly smoking it themselfs, just like cigs and booze

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: zach0624
This is my view on pot.

Out of my school of 600 kids I could pick out everykid who smokes pot regularly and gaurantee with over 95% certainty that they get below a 1.5 GPA(which in my school is practically gauranteed if you show up). Pot is horrible for your lungs, according to my mom who is a doctor has no benefits over a prescription drug, and it ruins your motivation.

My uncle killed himself drinking and smoking pot and no matter what people say it is addicting, he even talked to me about this subject that he could never stop chasing his first high.

in stark contrast to that BS you just posted, 8 of the top 10 students in my HS, 4.0+ GPA all smoked weed daily, same at my college, the valedictorian smoked all the time, he also did shrooms and acid when he wanted, he?s now at Princeton getting his PHD in Physics

Its medicinal uses are well documented from relieving pain, helping with glaucoma, getting people to eat who have no appetite & eating disorders

your uncle prob killed himself because he was a depressed alcoholic which has nothing to do with weed

yar. buddy of mine back in HS woke up one Saturday morning, took a few b-hits, forgot he had to take the SAT in about 1 hour, stumbled in to the test site (hadn't even studied)...got a 1300.

It doesn't work that way for me though. It's great for generating ideas, but trying to put together coherent thoughts (esp in written form) are impossible for me while high. It's a very personal experience for me-so I just take notes and hope that I can translate them later, when sober

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: zach0624
This is my view on pot.

Out of my school of 600 kids I could pick out everykid who smokes pot regularly and gaurantee with over 95% certainty that they get below a 1.5 GPA(which in my school is practically gauranteed if you show up). Pot is horrible for your lungs, according to my mom who is a doctor has no benefits over a prescription drug, and it ruins your motivation.

My uncle killed himself drinking and smoking pot and no matter what people say it is addicting, he even talked to me about this subject that he could never stop chasing his first high.

in stark contrast to that BS you just posted, 8 of the top 10 students in my HS, 4.0+ GPA all smoked weed daily, same at my college, the valedictorian smoked all the time, he also did shrooms and acid when he wanted, he?s now at Princeton getting his PHD in Physics

Its medicinal uses are well documented from relieving pain, helping with glaucoma, getting people to eat who have no appetite & eating disorders

your uncle prob killed himself because he was a depressed alcoholic which has nothing to do with weed

yar. buddy of mine back in HS woke up one Saturday morning, took a few b-hits, forgot he had to take the SAT in about 1 hour, stumbled in to the test site (hadn't even studied)...got a 1300.

It doesn't work that way for me though. It's great for generating ideas, but trying to put together coherent thoughts (esp in written form) are impossible for me while high. It's a very personal experience for me-so I just take notes and hope that I can translate them later, when sober

heh i got a 1340 still high on opium recovering from passing out in a pool of my own vomit the night before due to excessive booze consumption

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: zach0624
This is my view on pot.

Out of my school of 600 kids I could pick out everykid who smokes pot regularly and gaurantee with over 95% certainty that they get below a 1.5 GPA(which in my school is practically gauranteed if you show up). Pot is horrible for your lungs, according to my mom who is a doctor has no benefits over a prescription drug, and it ruins your motivation.

My uncle killed himself drinking and smoking pot and no matter what people say it is addicting, he even talked to me about this subject that he could never stop chasing his first high.

in stark contrast to that BS you just posted, 8 of the top 10 students in my HS, 4.0+ GPA all smoked weed daily, same at my college, the valedictorian smoked all the time, he also did shrooms and acid when he wanted, he?s now at Princeton getting his PHD in Physics

Its medicinal uses are well documented from relieving pain, helping with glaucoma, getting people to eat who have no appetite & eating disorders

your uncle prob killed himself because he was a depressed alcoholic which has nothing to do with weed

yar. buddy of mine back in HS woke up one Saturday morning, took a few b-hits, forgot he had to take the SAT in about 1 hour, stumbled in to the test site (hadn't even studied)...got a 1300.

It doesn't work that way for me though. It's great for generating ideas, but trying to put together coherent thoughts (esp in written form) are impossible for me while high. It's a very personal experience for me-so I just take notes and hope that I can translate them later, when sober

heh i got a 1340 still high on opium recovering from passing out in a pool of my own vomit the night before due to excessive booze consumption

Oh yeah? Well I got a 1420 the day after shooting up heroin, falling down a flight of stairs, and passing out in a pool of my own bloody vomit. The next day I had to run to school in the rain, got in just in time, and score! 1420 baby.


























j/k

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: sutahz


? Lets skip why it should be illegal, why should it be legal? Cause you enjoy it? Great arguement.

1) its not really that bad for you
2) you cant OD on it
3) it does NOT cause cancer
4) medicial uses
5) Hemp has thousands of industrial uses
6) they can tax it $$
7) free up room in the massivily over corwded prison system

Excellent list and I would only add that if war-mongers smoked a blunt before making battle plans they very well may forget to invade, thereby avoiding needless wars and freeing up tax dollars for much needed country-wide infrastructure upgrades

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Juddog

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: zach0624
This is my view on pot.

Out of my school of 600 kids I could pick out everykid who smokes pot regularly and gaurantee with over 95% certainty that they get below a 1.5 GPA(which in my school is practically gauranteed if you show up). Pot is horrible for your lungs, according to my mom who is a doctor has no benefits over a prescription drug, and it ruins your motivation.

My uncle killed himself drinking and smoking pot and no matter what people say it is addicting, he even talked to me about this subject that he could never stop chasing his first high.

in stark contrast to that BS you just posted, 8 of the top 10 students in my HS, 4.0+ GPA all smoked weed daily, same at my college, the valedictorian smoked all the time, he also did shrooms and acid when he wanted, he?s now at Princeton getting his PHD in Physics

Its medicinal uses are well documented from relieving pain, helping with glaucoma, getting people to eat who have no appetite & eating disorders

your uncle prob killed himself because he was a depressed alcoholic which has nothing to do with weed

yar. buddy of mine back in HS woke up one Saturday morning, took a few b-hits, forgot he had to take the SAT in about 1 hour, stumbled in to the test site (hadn't even studied)...got a 1300.

It doesn't work that way for me though. It's great for generating ideas, but trying to put together coherent thoughts (esp in written form) are impossible for me while high. It's a very personal experience for me-so I just take notes and hope that I can translate them later, when sober

heh i got a 1340 still high on opium recovering from passing out in a pool of my own vomit the night before due to excessive booze consumption

Oh yeah? Well I got a 1420 the day after shooting up heroin, falling down a flight of stairs, and passing out in a pool of my own bloody vomit. The next day I had to run to school in the rain, got in just in time, and score! 1420 baby.

j/k

thing is im not joking, my brother found me in the bathroom as i kinda ran there and puked on the way in, he said it sounded like someone dumped a 5 gallon bucket on the floor, puke was everywhere, i had to repaint the fing bathroom, my sister and her then boyfriend now husband basically nursed me back to health/consciousness, as they had "delt with people like this in college" truth be told i was drunker then that had ever see anyone, and i easily could have gone to the ER and had my stomach pumped,

its the only time ive ever blacked out from drinking