bill to decriminalize personal marijuana

[40Hands]

I'm surprised he hasn't yet "thought of the children!" :laugh:
This is one of my favorites in these arguments.

 

[crownjules]

Originally posted by: kstu

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Suhtaz why should anything be legal. Please tell us the criteria that needs to be met.

Anything that is legal should be legal for people to do. However, anything that is illegal should be illegal for people to do.

Why don't you go smoke a bowl, stupid stoner pothead?

I would love to go smoke a bowl right now, but I'm waiting for the day to wind down here in my office.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: 40Hands
I'm surprised he hasn't yet "thought of the children!" :laugh:

I'm surprised he hasn't found a connection to terrorism.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: crownjules

Originally posted by: kstu

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Suhtaz why should anything be legal. Please tell us the criteria that needs to be met.

Anything that is legal should be legal for people to do. However, anything that is illegal should be illegal for people to do.

Why don't you go smoke a bowl, stupid stoner pothead?

I would love to go smoke a bowl right now, but I'm waiting for the day to wind down here in my office.

this thread as got me thinking, so i called some people and will have some bud when i get home from work

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: 40Hands
I'm surprised he hasn't yet "thought of the children!" :laugh:

I'm surprised he hasn't found a connection to terrorism.

I :heart: me some Afghani.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: crownjules

Originally posted by: kstu

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Suhtaz why should anything be legal. Please tell us the criteria that needs to be met.

Anything that is legal should be legal for people to do. However, anything that is illegal should be illegal for people to do.

Why don't you go smoke a bowl, stupid stoner pothead?

I would love to go smoke a bowl right now, but I'm waiting for the day to wind down here in my office.

this thread as got me thinking, so i called some people and will have some bud when i get home from work

you know dangerous drug dealers? :Q

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: crownjules

Originally posted by: kstu

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Suhtaz why should anything be legal. Please tell us the criteria that needs to be met.

Anything that is legal should be legal for people to do. However, anything that is illegal should be illegal for people to do.

Why don't you go smoke a bowl, stupid stoner pothead?

I would love to go smoke a bowl right now, but I'm waiting for the day to wind down here in my office.

this thread as got me thinking, so i called some people and will have some bud when i get home from work

you know dangerous drug dealers? :Q

i know people who are in jail for murder as well

 

[kstu]

Future arguments:

-MJ should be illegal because it gives you the munchies.
-MJ should be illegal because cats like catnip.
-MJ should be illegal because you can slip on banana peels.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

Originally posted by: sutahz
Personal marijuana as opposed to corporate marijuana? Or perhaps military marjijuana?
I dont smoke, I do drink. If alcohol was made illegal again I'd be fine and not make a fuss. Why do people want more drugs in a country?
How do drugs (not prescription) benefit a society?

:roll:

 

[sutahz]

kstu's gems are retarded, but some of you like them because you feel it supports your cause.
"MJ should be illegal because <insert word/subject mentioned by sutahz>"

Why would I saw "think about the children", drugs effect the young and old.
Why would I link or try to link it to terrorism, I'm not pulling teeth here.
When I linked to the white house anti-pot link, someone one said "yeah thats not a biased report...", why does it have to be biased? What does the government gain by being baised aginst pot? What about the reports you've read, they're not biased? Why aren't they, because they prove your point? Because they appear unbiased or say they're unbiased?
Pot may not be as bad as other drugs, and I'll agree it's not as bad as alcohol but that doesn't mean it should be legal.
I still fail to see how it being illegal hinders your personal freedom's. The fact it's illegal isn't stopping you now.

WTH, I'll go thru the posts backwards.
"you know dangerous drug dealers?" If someone owe's a dealer money but isn't paying the dealer, they have no legal recourse so they take care of it themselves.
"Don't forget this thread is full of potheads with bad memory" well you did fail to notice he was the one making the 'gems'
"Most things that are illegal were at some point in very recent history perfectly legal in this country so please explain that." because they were found to be bad I'm guessing? Just a guess, pretty vague reply to kstu's sarcastic post
"Suhtaz why should anything be legal. Please tell us the criteria that needs to be met." It's what things should be illegal you retard. You guys are the one's pushing something to be legal. I guess i'll give a smart ass reply, 'For you IcebergSlim and Ns1, nothing should be legal, everything should be illegal for you to do'
"Stop comparing cannabis to heroing and coke. The ONLY similarites are they they are illegal and that they have an affect on your brain." oh is that all, forgive me...
I'm not keeping marijuana from being used medically nor am I preventing marijuana from being grown for the purpose of hemp. I am however aginst people smoking or consuming marijuana.
"Health issues are a major concern for all drug use" Thats your quote Canai
"There should be no consequences for smoking herb." by Ns1, you think of pot as this innocent little herb because it 'benefits' you to do so.
"True, this thread is about pot and not cigs/alcohol/crack/coke/heroin/lsd but there's a reason why these things are illegal or should be." by Ns1. Exactly, there is a reaon marijuana is illegal. You are putting pot in this warm fuzzy little sanctuary and everything else is getting a mark of evil.

Enjoy yourself while you're high, hope you see god or something.

 

[nakedfrog]

Wow, I think I'd have to be high for that post to make any sense.
You pretty much completely dodged a valid question about why any item should be legal or not legal. And you tossed in a "retard" quip, to boot. Stay classy!

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: sutahz
kstu's gems are retarded, but some of you like them because you feel it supports your cause.
"MJ is illegal because <insert word/subject mentioned by sutahz>"

WTH, I'll go thru the posts backwards.
"you know dangerous drug dealers?" If someone owe's a dealer money but isn't paying the dealer, they have no legal recourse so they take care of it themselves.

Slippery slope #3. Drug dealers aren't fucking payday loan companies. Cash is king.

"Most things that are illegal were at some point in very recent history perfectly legal in this country so please explain that." because they were found to be bad I'm guessing? Just a guess, pretty vague reply to kstu's sarcastic post

I have no idea what the point of this comment was

"Suhtaz why should anything be legal. Please tell us the criteria that needs to be met." It's what things should be illegal you retard. You guys are the one's pushing something to be legal. I guess i'll give a smart ass reply, 'For you IcebergSlim and Ns1, nothing should be legal, everything should be illegal for you to do'

I still have no idea what you're trying to say. Might as well ban excessively fatty foods, don't you know how much people/government/insurance companies waste fighting obesity?

"Stop comparing cannabis to heroing and coke. The ONLY similarites are they they are illegal and that they have an affect on your brain." oh is that all, forgive me...
I'm not keeping marijuana from being used medically nor am I preventing marijuana from being grown for the purpose of hemp. I am however aginst people smoking or consuming marijuana.

Ok....

"Health issues are a major concern for all drug use" Thats your quote Canai
"There should be no consequences for smoking herb." by Ns1, you think of pot as this innocent little herb because it 'benefits' you to do so.

Ok?

"True, this thread is about pot and not cigs/alcohol/crack/coke/heroin/lsd but there's a reason why these things are illegal or should be." by Ns1. Exactly, there is a reaon marijuana is illegal. You are putting pot in this warm fuzzy little sanctuary and everything else is getting a mark of evil.

I actually don't care. Bottom line, as long as it doesn't affect me do whatever you want

Enjoy yourself while your high, hope you see god or something.

I actually only see god while on shrooms

 

[PepePeru]

states rights ftw.

 

[bigdog1218]

Getting caught with personal marijuana should just be a fine, a large one. It will never be legalized in the US. And you pot smokers sound like whiny bitches.

 

[kstu]

Originally posted by: bigdog1218
Getting caught with personal marijuana should just be a fine, a large one. It will never be legalized in the US. And you pot smokers sound like whiny bitches.

Why, though?
Think about it for a minute. Why in the world should you pay a "large fine" for getting caught with a plant that you smoke and then it makes you feel good?

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: kstu

Originally posted by: bigdog1218
Getting caught with personal marijuana should just be a fine, a large one. It will never be legalized in the US. And you pot smokers sound like whiny bitches.

Why, though?
Think about it for a minute. Why in the world should you pay a "large fine" for getting caught with a plant that you smoke and then it makes you feel good?

Because it's illegal.

 

[sutahz]

So true, why pay a fine for having a plant that makes you feel good?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca#Legal_status
http://opioids.com/poppy.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyote#Uses

Originally posted by: kstu
No one is talking about cocaine and heroin.

Why neither am I, I'm talking about coca leaves and poppy seeds, silly guy!

Originally posted by: destrekor
Oh, and ignore every other post on here that clearly lays out WHY marijuana should be legal. It's convenient that you don't argue those posts, because you know they are logical and 100% correct.

quote the posts that give good logical reasons why pot should be legalized.
This is a little bit interesting

The history of nonmedical drug use, and the development of policies in response to drug use, also extends back to the early settlement of the country. Like alcohol, the classification of certain drugs as legal, or illegal, has changed over time. These changes sometimes had racial and class overtones.

According to Mosher and Yanagisako, for example, Prohibition was in part a response to the drinking practices of European immigrants, who became the new lower class. Cocaine and opium were legal during the 19th century, and were favored drugs among the middle and upper classes. Cocaine became illegal after it became associated with African Americans following Reconstruction. Opium was first restricted in California in 1875 when it became associated with Chinese immigrant workers. Marijuana was legal until the 1930s when it became associated with Mexicans. LSD, legal in the 1950s, became illegal in 1967 when it became associated with the counterculture.

Originally posted by: Vic
And this, folks, is but a small example of why the drug warriors are among the stupidest, most evil people on this planet.

That and they try to keep you from your drug.

"I think it should be illegal for you to pick on someone who clearly has no debating skills to speak of."
I think it should be illegal for us to pick on someone who clearly has no debating skills to speak of.
Fixed, your welcome. If you need help picking on me some more, feel free to ask.

Trying to convince an addict to give up their drug is useless. For those of you in this thread that are pot smokers, I'm not saying you're an addict like unto a crackhead but you are passionate about keeping the good times rolling right?
Curious, when do you think someone should be able to drink (as alcohol is a more dangerous drug)? When would you be comfortable having your kid smoke pot with you?

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Why not........switzerland and holland seem to be doing fine.

arent those the countries with methadone clinics and govt tox programs to keep the addicts from jonesing too long?


i dont care if they decriminalize pot. the cops will make their own ways of busting people for "distribution" like they already do to trump up the charges when they find drugs. besides, if it is decriminalized for personal use, who will supply it to those personal users? its like announcing that dealing is ok. if there were provisions for govt controlled distribution and taxation it would carry a bit more weight. of course, this could be in there, i havent read the link yet... too bored. think about the shit that would get paid for if pot were taxed and distro'd by the govt.

 

[kstu]

No one is talking about cocaine and heroin.

 

[Renob]

to bad it has a snowballs chance in hell of passing.

Yes but its a START, baby steps.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: sutahz
So true, why pay a fine for having a plant that makes you feel good?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca#Legal_status
http://opioids.com/poppy.html

Whoops, there you go again, bringing cocaine and heroin into a marijuana thread

Originally posted by: kstu
No one is talking about cocaine and heroin.

Why neither am I, I'm talking about coca leaves and poppy seeds, silly guy![/quote]

ooooooooh you think you're so smart. what, you think we can't read between the lines because of our eye lids are too heavy?

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: bigdog1218
Getting caught with personal marijuana should just be a fine, a large one. It will never be legalized in the US. And you pot smokers sound like whiny bitches.

That's how it is in my state. Of course, they just passed a bill to triple the fine from one to three hundred.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: sutahz
So true, why pay a fine for having a plant that makes you feel good?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca#Legal_status
http://opioids.com/poppy.html

wow you single handedly show what is wrong in this country in terms of marijuana.

OMG marijuana is a plant... so if it gets legalized, opium should too right? I mean, it's a plant!!!

ugh. go back to watching those bullshit anti-pot videos, will ya? Because obviously you agree completely with those people. From the 1930s.
Way to, you know, advance your capacity to learn what everyone else knows.

Oh, and ignore every other post on here that clearly lays out WHY marijuana should be legal. It's convenient that you don't argue those posts, because you know they are logical and 100% correct.

+

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: sutahz
So true, why pay a fine for having a plant that makes you feel good?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca#Legal_status
http://opioids.com/poppy.html

Whoops, there you go again, bringing cocaine and heroin into a marijuana thread

Originally posted by: kstu
No one is talking about cocaine and heroin.

Why neither am I, I'm talking about coca leaves and poppy seeds, silly guy!

ooooooooh you think you're so smart. what, you think we can't read between the lines because of our eye lids are too heavy?[/quote]

I think it should be illegal for you to pick on someone who clearly has no debating skills to speak of.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
I wonder how many people in this thread that support this were in favor of public smoking bans.

Why would it matter?

I didn't thoroughly read the thread, but I've seen mentions of personal liberties in terms of being able to use marijuana. If those same people voted for a smoking ban, they are incredibly hypocritical.

MrVille pretty much nailed it

Originally posted by: Mrvile

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
I wonder how many people in this thread that support this were in favor of public smoking bans.

I smoke cigarettes and I smoke pot. The thing about the public smoking ban is I still think that the scent of tobacco smoke everywhere is gross. If someone wants to have a cigarette, step 10 feet outside and smoke it. I don't need my meal smelling and tasting like cigarettes smoke when I want it to be food. If marijuana were ever legalized, I would smoke in my house, or somewhere outdoors. Just because I want to smoke doesn't mean I want to smoke everywhere.

But it doesn't really matter how one smoker, 10 smokers, or smokers as a whole feel about the ban. It matters that private business owners are being forced to disallow a legal activity in their private business.

Workers Rights. Employees should have the right to work in an environment free of unncessary pollutants and poisons and saftey/health hazards.

that worker has the right to go find a job in a nonsmoking establishment as well. when i worked for a steel mill i didnt bitch about the emissions i was choking on daily. i went and found a different job. im a smoker, and i prefer going outside most of the time anyway. its my time to get away from the noise, the people and kind of "reset". of course, idont go out to bars at all anymore. there were many bars that lost a ton of business when those smoking bans went into effect here in az. others found ways around them, like open air patios and such. one bar in cave creek has always had an outdoor patio, but to kind of flip off the law removed the bottom half of their building walls and installed metal grating, classifying it as an open air restaurant. smoke where you please. that place is PACKED all the time, where before it was just a dingy biker bar with a moderate crowd. stats are there, im sure, to prove both sides of this argument. they can be warped to prove the spaghetti monster is real if so desired.