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i was talking to someone who has had a fever for few days now
after we talked about half an hour, her bodytemperature rised about 1C
well now i'm anxious for knowing why did that happen
just wanted to know what do you think, also waiting for some professional opinions or links related to this subject
then i could give her an explanation why did this happen
 

Eli

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It happened for the same reason that she had a fever in the first place, to combat whatever is trying to take hold in her body.

As much as you'd like to believe it, her temperature didn't rise as a result of conversing with you.
 

godmare

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Yeah, a fever is your body's way of killing a virus. If, after it heats a bit, the virus is still present, it heats more.
And, just by the way, temperature isn't actually a measurement of heat, but something that is produced by heat.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: godmare
Yeah, a fever is your body's way of killing a virus. If, after it heats a bit, the virus is still present, it heats more.
And, just by the way, temperature isn't actually a measurement of heat, but something that is produced by heat.



Isn't temperature just a measure of the energy something is holding and/or giving off?
 

godmare

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: godmare
Yeah, a fever is your body's way of killing a virus. If, after it heats a bit, the virus is still present, it heats more.
And, just by the way, temperature isn't actually a measurement of heat, but something that is produced by heat.



Isn't temperature just a measure of the energy something is holding and/or giving off?
Temperature is specifically a measurement of the average kinetic energy in a given space. Heat increases kinetic energy by accelerating particles.


 

BaliBabyDoc

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As sad as it may be . . . most people are not very good at using or reading thermometers. It's less of an issue with electronic units with timers but placement is still an issue.

There's only one fail-safe when it comes to temps . . . hold on to your hats. Use an electronic unit and take a rectal temp. Rectal temps are the only reliable indicators of body temperature.

If your friend is concerned she should go see her doctor on MON . . . >90% of pathogenic fevers are caused by self-limiting viruses but that's no reason to ignore them particularly if your friend has associated symptoms of concern. Regardless, she should treat the temp; acetaminophen every four hours or ibuprofen every six hours.


NOTE: The above is NOT medical advice. It is not intended to assess, treat, or otherwise advise towards a course of action pertaining to a medical problem. Any person seeking medical advice should contact a licensed health professional.
 

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
As sad as it may be . . . most people are not very good at using or reading thermometers. It's less of an issue with electronic units with timers but placement is still an issue.

There's only one fail-safe when it comes to temps . . . hold on to your hats. Use an electronic unit and take a rectal temp. Rectal temps are the only reliable indicators of body temperature.

If your friend is concerned she should go see her doctor on MON . . . >90% of pathogenic fevers are caused by self-limiting viruses but that's no reason to ignore them particularly if your friend has associated symptoms of concern. Regardless, she should treat the temp; acetaminophen every four hours or ibuprofen every six hours.


NOTE: The above is NOT medical advice. It is not intended to assess, treat, or otherwise advise towards a course of action pertaining to a medical problem. Any person seeking medical advice should contact a licensed health professional.

lol... love the disclaimer.
 

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"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the former."
Albert Einstein
Not that I cannot relate, but:
"Peace cannot be held by force, it can only be achieved by understanding"

A less-cynical Einsein quote.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: godmare
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the former."
Albert Einstein
Not that I cannot relate, but:
"Peace cannot be held by force, it can only be achieved by understanding"

A less-cynical Einsein quote.

What about...

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

:Q
 

godmare

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: godmare
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the former."
Albert Einstein
Not that I cannot relate, but:
"Peace cannot be held by force, it can only be achieved by understanding"

A less-cynical Einsein quote.

What about...

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

:Q

mmm, yes, I'd heard that one. It's a goodie
How multifaceted Einstein is evidenced to be, yet not regarded.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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My sig is intended to reflect the general state of human hubris and folly. Regardless, the subsequent posted musings of Einstein are quite appropriate as well given our current state of affairs.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Einstein was cynical because he could see the chasm between humanity's greatest achievements and humanity's ugly appetites. Such insight is rarely appreciated by contemporaries.
 

etech

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BBD
s sad as it may be . . . most people are not very good at using or reading thermometers. It's less of an issue with electronic units with timers but placement is still an issue.

What is your opinion on the electronic thermometers that read the ear temperature.

omron

We are thinking about getting one of them.


maker

If you gf had taken a drink of cool liquid before she took her temp the first time and then waited thiry minutes and took her temp again that could explain a 1 degree difference. Any drink will throw off a oral temp reading for a period of time.
 

maker

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Originally posted by: etechIf you gf had taken a drink of cool liquid before she took her temp the first time and then waited thiry minutes and took her temp again that could explain a 1 degree difference. Any drink will throw off a oral temp reading for a period of time.
you got it all wrong - she's not my gf - not even near that
just a person i know
i was asking this because if she's accusing me of her fever then i could explain her intelligently that it is not so well she has that habit
 

mcveigh

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you can't OD on ibuprofen (at least that's what the medics told us) I have taken up to 2400MG at a time

I saw this thread and checked it out cause my little boy is sick right now
 

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: godmare
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the former."
Albert Einstein
Not that I cannot relate, but:
"Peace cannot be held by force, it can only be achieved by understanding"

A less-cynical Einsein quote.

What about...

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

:Q

I've never heard that quote Eli, thanks

maker try this site: http://my.webmd.com/webmd_today/home/default.htm
 

Zim Hosein

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Originally posted by: mcveigh
you can't OD on ibuprofen (at least that's what the medics told us) I have taken up to 2400MG at a time

I saw this thread and checked it out cause my little boy is sick right now

I'm sure you can overdose on ibuprofin mcveigh, there must be a limit on how much the body can take unless the excess is just flushed out of your system

BTW, I hope your son gets better soon
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Ibuprofen can be taken every four hours.

The risk profile for ibuprofen at q4h dosing does not justify such a schedule considering the incremental benefit from q6h.

you can't OD on ibuprofen (at least that's what the medics told us) I have taken up to 2400MG at a time

You can OD on almost ANYTHING. The max daily dose for ibuprofen is 3200mg. A single 2400mg dose will produce significant GI distress in the MAJORITY of people. Prescription strength ibuprofen is an 800mg horse-pill. It is typically used for aches/pains associated with minor trauma or some other acute insult. You can take 800mg 3-4 times per day for 5-7 days without significant adverse events. Use beyond a week greatly increases risk of ulcer development not to mention the antagonism of the heart protective effects of aspirin in the old coots.

What is your opinion on the electronic thermometers that read the ear temperature.

Convenient and just as accurate as the typical analog thermometer as typically used. But I doubt there's a single ER in the country that uses them on a regular basis. External auditory canal thermometers are only accurate for adolescent or older ears that are clear of wax . . . everyone else needs an oral if not a rectal temp.
 

mcveigh

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Ibuprofen can be taken every four hours.

The risk profile for ibuprofen at q4h dosing does not justify such a schedule considering the incremental benefit from q6h.

you can't OD on ibuprofen (at least that's what the medics told us) I have taken up to 2400MG at a time

You can OD on almost ANYTHING. The max daily dose for ibuprofen is 3200mg. A single 2400mg dose will produce significant GI distress in the MAJORITY of people. Prescription strength ibuprofen is an 800mg horse-pill. It is typically used for aches/pains associated with minor trauma or some other acute insult. You can take 800mg 3-4 times per day for 5-7 days without significant adverse events. Use beyond a week greatly increases risk of ulcer development not to mention the antagonism of the heart protective effects of aspirin in the old coots.

In the Marines they used to hand out the 800Mg pills like candy, that's when I would take a lot. Mainly in the field when your body just constantly hurt.

 

BaliBabyDoc

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In the Marines they used to hand out the 800Mg pills like candy, that's when I would take a lot. Mainly in the field when your body just constantly hurt.

I don't doubt it. Tricare sux . . . granted I've been told that it used to be worse. Medicaid recipients get significantly better healthcare than the military . . . and that's nothing to brag about.
 

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Body temperatures can be weird sometimes. Mine is always (unless I'm sick) 94.6 F.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Body temperatures can be weird sometimes. Mine is always (unless I'm sick) 94.6 F.

No your body temp is not 94.6 F . . . the temperature you measure by your chosen means happens to be 94.6 F. Give me some KY and 30secs and I will tell your real body temperature.
 

mcveigh

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Body temperatures can be weird sometimes. Mine is always (unless I'm sick) 94.6 F.

No your body temp is not 94.6 F . . . the temperature you measure by your chosen means happens to be 94.6 F. Give me some KY and 30secs and I will tell your real body temperature.

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