All the hype about the 21st century when I was growing up and we are here and we don't have planes that TELL US that there's something wrong in this and this part of theirs. We humans are useless!
All the hype about the 21st century when I was growing up and we are here and we don't have planes that TELL US that there's something wrong in this and this part of theirs. We humans are useless!I fly a 65 year old airplane, it can be done. We have to look at every damn thing on it.
United Airlines does not outsource their maintenance to Boeing. They buy the planes just like you buy a car and they maintain them and operate them per their operational specifications and their maintenance plan.No, but I'm a private owner of a personal vehicle. If I personally owned a 747 and maintained it and the shit exploded midair, I wouldn't expect to blame Boeing for it.
If I took my vehicle to a Ford certified mechanic and their complete incompetence led to the destruction of my engine, I would definitely put blame on Ford as well because it's 'Ford certified'. They're claiming responsibility for the capabilities of that mechanic through their certification mechanisms.
For an aircraft, I'd expect every major airport is 'Boeing certified' and I'd expect them to take some responsibility for their work. An airport isn't the place I'd expect the equivalent of a shade tree mechanic, precisely because I'd expect the aircraft mfgs to take some responsibility for their name brand once sold to an airline. Precisely because when you're an aircraft mfg that ends up in the news, your brand suffers, and that can lead to decades of losses and govt handouts.
I understand that airline mechanics can fab square aluminum panels and whatnot, that's simple shit and should fall under the umbrella of body work that a certified shop can handle. Third party parts though? You're giving me even more reasons to never get on a plane again. Fuck that noise.
They provide a lot of different types of support. The AOG teams can do both the touch labor and/or provide troubleshooting, training, and general assistance. I've worked with the AOG teams in each of those capacities. The times I've personally been around them doing the touch labor is when the airline had done something very stupid that caused major structural damage and they wanted some CYA for the repairs. Also seen aMy aircraft partner retired from there and did AOG (aircraft on the ground) support on the 37, 57 airframes, specifically the airpack systems and cabin pressurization systems.
Boeing provides a tremendous support for customers but that was not him doing the work, it was him troubleshooting and assisting in figuring out difficult to solve issues. Ultimately the airline's mechanics fixed it all.
The times I've personally been around them doing the touch labor is when the airline had done something very stupid that caused major structural damage and they wanted some CYA for the repairs.
Raising the landing gear on the ground, dropping a plane off jacks, etc.
Like what???
2 in 2 years. Boeing CEO's or Boeing aircraft, either way you're right!Looks like the thread title is correct again, whole slate of top executives are stepping down by the end of the year:
Boeing CEO Dave Calhoun to step down by end of year
Boeing CEO Dave Calhoun will leave at the end of 2024. His announced departure comes after production problems at Boeing.www.cbsnews.com
It'll be 5 years by the time he steps down.2 in 2 years. Boeing CEO's or Boeing aircraft, either way you're right!
Looks like they've learned how to get CEO's to coast without power longer than their aircraft.It'll be 5 years by the time he steps down.
Like we needed any more proof of his assholery.Texas AG uses Boeing problems to be a racist piece of shit.
Texas attorney general investigating Spirit AeroSystems, asking about diversity
The Texas attorney general has opened an investigation into a key Boeing supplier that is already facing scrutiny from federal regulators over the quality of parts it provides to the aircraft maker.www.kwch.com
From the piece:
The request goes into detail in seeking internal discussions around Spirit’s efforts to create a diverse workforce “and whether those commitments are unlawful or are compromising the company’s manufacturing processes.” Paxton asked for a breakdown of Spirit’s workforce by race, sexual orientation and other factors, and whether the makeup has changed over time
Like we needed any more proof of his assholery.
WTF does Texas even have to do with any of this? Spirit doesn't operate in Texas as far as I know, the part in question was built in Wichita, KS. The aircraft was operated by a Washington based operator and flying out of an Oregon airport. Boeing is also based in Delaware, IIRC.Texas AG uses Boeing problems to be a racist piece of shit.
Texas attorney general investigating Spirit AeroSystems, asking about diversity
The Texas attorney general has opened an investigation into a key Boeing supplier that is already facing scrutiny from federal regulators over the quality of parts it provides to the aircraft maker.www.kwch.com
From the piece:
The request goes into detail in seeking internal discussions around Spirit’s efforts to create a diverse workforce “and whether those commitments are unlawful or are compromising the company’s manufacturing processes.” Paxton asked for a breakdown of Spirit’s workforce by race, sexual orientation and other factors, and whether the makeup has changed over time
How the fuck is he still in office after being impeached by the not exactly liberal Texas House?Yeah how is that piece of shit not in jail, let alone after other companies for racist reasons.
why the fuck is the texas AG investigating a kansas-based company? not that it stopped him from requesting hospital records in washington state (or was it oregon?) to persecute trans peopleTexas AG uses Boeing problems to be a racist piece of shit.
Texas attorney general investigating Spirit AeroSystems, asking about diversity
The Texas attorney general has opened an investigation into a key Boeing supplier that is already facing scrutiny from federal regulators over the quality of parts it provides to the aircraft maker.www.kwch.com
From the piece:
The request goes into detail in seeking internal discussions around Spirit’s efforts to create a diverse workforce “and whether those commitments are unlawful or are compromising the company’s manufacturing processes.” Paxton asked for a breakdown of Spirit’s workforce by race, sexual orientation and other factors, and whether the makeup has changed over time
"virtue" signaling to other shit heads, its his only goalwhy the fuck is the texas AG investigating a kansas-based company? not that it stopped him from requesting hospital records in washington state (or was it oregon?) to persecute trans people
WTF does Texas even have to do with any of this? Spirit doesn't operate in Texas as far as I know, the part in question was built in Wichita, KS. The aircraft was operated by a Washington based operator and flying out of an Oregon airport. Boeing is also based in Delaware, IIRC.
I know these politicians know this, but the only reason any major company cares about diversity of their workforce is because it helps depress wages, just by simple supply and demand. This is why I massively support getting more women into engineering, I just think for ever woman that enters engineering school a boy should be rejected .
why the fuck is the texas AG investigating a kansas-based company? not that it stopped him from requesting hospital records in washington state (or was it oregon?) to persecute trans people
Because they failed to convict. Also, fun fact, he's still under federal indictment. Has been for like 8+ years now.How the fuck is he still in office after being impeached by the not exactly liberal Texas House?
Shocked. Well, not that shocked...Boeing execs admit boosting "shareholder value" had some side effects.
Report: Boeing 'Put Wall Street First, Safety Second', Creating 'Yearslong Decline of Safety Standards' - Slashdot
The Seattle Times has a Pulitzer Prize-winning aerospace journalist named Dominic Gates. Sunday he published an expose on "a yearslong decline of safety standards" at Boeing. After a 1997 merger, its new executive leaders "treated experienced engineers and machinists as expendable, ignoring...tech.slashdot.org
Oh FFS. FROM YOUR LINKED ARTICLE:Pardon us, so terribly sorry to trouble you, but per chance, might you have happened to have seen our exit slide?
It sort of is, in that none of those issues over 33 years ever made the plane kill everyone on board, unlike certain current Boeing models have done.Oh FFS. FROM YOUR LINKED ARTICLE:
The 33-year old plane, registration number N176DN, has previously had engine problems, a cracked windshield, smoke in the cockpit and suffered a bird strike.
Not really material to the subject of this thread which is about current quality issues at Boeing.