I don't even know what I'm using on my XP machines. Basically I don't browse with them! They have very specific targeted usage, and rare these days as well. Don't need internet access!Opera's Chinese owned.
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It's also chromium. Might as well use chrome.
Most likely using better hardware than I am (it's my work PC so can't change much of anything in it).Maybe your problem is windows. I don't get behavior like that on debian.
Idk, sounds like a you problem. 106 tabs open... Maybe just read stuff and close them, or learn to bookmark.This is why I hate Firefox:
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Only 106 tabs open but ironically the Ars Technica M4 iPad Pro review tab was consuming 10+ GB all by itself.
Samsung 860 EVO 500GB SSD was TOTALLY overrun, almost like Firefox ran it over ruthlessly and mercilessly. System froze. I thought the CPU fan had failed or something and the system had crashed. But patiently waiting for several minutes paid off and I was able to regain control and take the screenshot. Saved tabs to bookmarks and closed them all. The review article was open in a different Firefox window so that's how I found out it was using the most RAM. Unfortunately, within seconds, it started lowering its consumption and went down to about 4400MB. Still huge but not worth taking a screenshot of.
So yeah. Even a decent PCIe 3.0 TLC SSD would've helped a lot in this situation.
I think you overlooked the fact that a single tab was consuming 10 GB RAM. Consumed RAM reached 98% and Firefox started thrashing the SSD at a crazy rate, revealing the weakness of Samsung's SSD. So I learned two things today. Be careful opening and leaving ArsTechnica tabs on Firefox and Samsung EVO SSDs are crap at handling anything above a typical home or office workload.Idk, sounds like a you problem.
This happens to me about once a month; usually I can close the offending tab and save the session but not always. It's less of a problem after I upgraded from 16GB to 32GB of RAM last fall but it still happens if I have other memory-hungry apps running, and some browser tab causes a runaway situation. I'd guesstimate I usually have around 100 browser tabs, but most are unloaded.This is why I hate Firefox:
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Only 106 tabs open but ironically the Ars Technica M4 iPad Pro review tab was consuming 10+ GB all by itself.
Samsung 860 EVO 500GB SSD was TOTALLY overrun, almost like Firefox ran it over ruthlessly and mercilessly. System froze. I thought the CPU fan had failed or something and the system had crashed. But patiently waiting for several minutes paid off and I was able to regain control and take the screenshot. Saved tabs to bookmarks and closed them all. The review article was open in a different Firefox window so that's how I found out it was using the most RAM. Unfortunately, within seconds, it started lowering its consumption and went down to about 4400MB. Still huge but not worth taking a screenshot of.
So yeah. Even a decent PCIe 3.0 TLC SSD would've helped a lot in this situation.
None. I'm kinda tolerant of ads. Keeps the internet free (mostly). Would hate things going behind paywalls if my using an ad-blocker turns out to be the straw that breaks the camel's back (it usually is. I jinx stuff good!).Ad blocker on that PC?
A faster or better SSD would have kept the system responsive at least just enough to let me open Task Manager and figure out what was going on. I've had something similar happen on my browsing laptop but that has a WD Green 240GB SSD so that's to be expected. Samsung SSD's are not cheap so I expect better from them. By the way, I used some HD bench tool that coercitiv uses to test SSD performance. The Samsung 860 EVO actually performed better than a newer 870 EVO SSD so Samsung has cut a few more corners to enrich itself.I wouldn't blame this on your poor EVO SSD; this is just classic thrashing. I use a (low-end) NVMe SSD, and it still happens once in a while.
Sounds like js or something running on that tab had a memory leak. Most I've ever seen if 1.6GB for the whole shebang - but with only 40-50 tabs.I think you overlooked the fact that a single tab was consuming 10 GB RAM. Consumed RAM reached 98% and Firefox started thrashing the SSD at a crazy rate, revealing the weakness of Samsung's SSD. So I learned two things today. Be careful opening and leaving ArsTechnica tabs on Firefox and Samsung EVO SSDs are crap at handling anything above a typical home or office workload.
I'm right behind you here. I've occasionally had 4 tabs open, don't believe I've ever hit five.Idk, sounds like a you problem. 106 tabs open... Maybe just read stuff and close them, or learn to bookmark.
Igor is special.I guess I just don't understand the "logic" of keeping tabs open for more than the task you are working on. On the highly unlikely event that you want to find something later, they are right there in your history. Heck, features like the Grouped History in Chrome even do that part of the work for you. A click or two and you have everything back up -- without the loss of resources, energy drains, system slowdowns, constant bandwidth use from ads, etc.
This is also how @igor_kavinski and I use browser tabs, although the actual count is different. Over the long run, it does cause excess memory consumption but unless I'm missing something, browser history is not a good facsimile of tabs or bookmarks.I currently have 46 tabs open, 16 of which are pinned. Of the ones I'm not actively using, the rest are temporary bookmarks. I can get back to them when I want to make the time, and they don't clutter my real bookmarks, or disappear forever when I forget about them. Having them in front of me keeps them in mind. I have no performance problems.
You haven't done much with Grouped History then. Automatically takes all similar tabs, groups them for you, and then with a click can open them all right back up.This is also how @igor_kavinski and I use browser tabs, although the actual count is different. Over the long run, it does cause excess memory consumption but unless I'm missing something, browser history is not a good facsimile of tabs or bookmarks.
Used to drive me nuts but once I went to 32GB RAM, not nuts. Occasionally I do need to restart Chrome, only once in a long while. Doesn't take me long to get tons of pages and megatons of tabs open. Bad habits, mostly. I have a lot of interests, can get off on tangents. I usually have Brave open as well as Chrome for those sites that bug the Bejesus out of you one way or another.This is also how @igor_kavinski and I use browser tabs, although the actual count is different. Over the long run, it does cause excess memory consumption but unless I'm missing something, browser history is not a good facsimile of tabs or bookmarks.
Just create win10 media and reinstallUsed to drive me nuts but once I went to 32GB RAM, not nuts. Occasionally I do need to restart Chrome, only once in a long while. Doesn't take me long to get tons of pages and megatons of tabs open. Bad habits, mostly. I have a lot of interests, can get off on tangents. I usually have Brave open as well as Chrome for those sites that bug the Bejesus out of you one way or another.
Every time I reboot, I'm asked to upgrade to Windows 11 from 10. I decline every time. Don't know what I'll do when support disappears. I do need to reinstall Windows. Don't know which version I ought to go with. Both my Windows 10 laptops have issues I figure will probably clear with a fresh install, different issues which developed way after I bought them, almost identical laptops.