Bush where was he?

[MOHO456]

Sorry man, your arguments dont cut it, and the site in question is clearly biased, with a name like www.workingforchange.com Its hard not to see it. My sites were not biased. They didn't jabber on about unproven jargon. They gave actual quotes from weapons inspectors. BTW, Allwi just stated that he doesnt need any more troops, and that "...the world is better off without Saddam Hussein." And your comment about the farm chemical: irrelivant. You thrive off of deception and fact skewing, and your obnoxios NeoLib buddy does the same. Grow up, open your eyes, and get a life. I know plenty of farmers, and none use Serin nerve gas or Mustard gas on their crops... wtf are you talking about? "LOL". What mistakes have I made? You never pointed those out. Once again the simple equation rings true: facts>liberals. Backing Bush isn't a mistake. It's my choice. I don't worship Bush, he's a better candidate than any liberal commie flip flop who has missed all of his senate votes. He says he'll lower healthcare costs, but taxes will reach an all-time high, and he'll be spending almost 1.5 trillion. Bush proposed 67 billlion for that, so that we dont have to pay for the healthcare of freeloaders and the lazy. Bush makes it okay to be rich in a country that is based mainly on wealth. Those swift boat vets are one tough customer too: The people who fought beside Kerry tell it like it was, and he attacks them. He is ashamed of his war record, and I would be too if I was him.Go read about his purple heart aquisitions; he pretty much forced people to give them to him. One of his medal-requiring injuries was just millimeters deep, and was easily contained within a band-aid.

And about that 10's of thousands of tons of WMD: Get real.

Saddam never accounted for their destruction as per the resolution 1441. Appropriate action was taken. End of discussion.

 

[Bowfinger]

Glad you asked. There was this:

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: MOHO456
Wow this is cute, this whole issue was resolved. It was a crock, a groundless attack on the president. The documents were foraged, and Dan Rather lied about the whole thing, thats why CBS is in the midst of a secret scandal. The liberal media machine just covers its tracks.... And for all of you who think the media is fair, then why was this story buried, or excluded altogether from other newspapers?

Links:

http://www.newsmax.com/archive...2004/6/25/114037.shtml

http://www.washingtontimes.com...40624-112920-5897r.htm

10-12+ poison gas bombs, irrefutable proof that Saddam had and still has a WMD arsenal.

To all the shocked liberals: I'm sorry the truth was so harsh. Go hug a tree and make it all better.

1. It's an old article. It was widely reported at the time.

2. It was already discussed here.

3. "10-12+" hardly constitutes the "massive stockpiles" claimed by the Bush administration.

... but ...

4. As it turns out, it was yet another false alarm anyway. They were not loaded with chemical agents as originally reported: Shells free of chemicals. (Copied from the earlier thread here.)

5. The YABAs seem to be real gluttons for punishment. They never seem to get tired of being wrong. I think that's why they quote NewsMax and the Washington Times so much.


Dan Rather acknowledged his mistake. Any guesses on whether MOHO456 has as much integrity as Dan Rather?

Followed by:

Originally posted by: MOHO456
... What mistakes have I made? You never pointed those out. ...

I guess that makes yet another mistake. Do you have as much integrity as Dan Rather?

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: MOHO456
Sorry man, your arguments dont cut it, and the site in question is clearly biased, with a name like www.workingforchange.com Its hard not to see it. My sites were not biased. They didn't jabber on about unproven jargon. They gave actual quotes from weapons inspectors. BTW, Allwi just stated that he doesnt need any more troops, and that "...the world is better off without Saddam Hussein." And your comment about the farm chemical: irrelivant. You thrive off of deception and fact skewing, and your obnoxios NeoLib buddy does the same. Grow up, open your eyes, and get a life. I know plenty of farmers, and none use Serin nerve gas or Mustard gas on their crops... wtf are you talking about? "LOL". What mistakes have I made? You never pointed those out. Once again the simple equation rings true: facts>liberals. Backing Bush isn't a mistake. It's my choice. I don't worship Bush, he's a better candidate than any liberal commie flip flop who has missed all of his senate votes. He says he'll lower healthcare costs, but taxes will reach an all-time high, and he'll be spending almost 1.5 trillion. Bush proposed 67 billlion for that, so that we dont have to pay for the healthcare of freeloaders and the lazy. Bush makes it okay to be rich in a country that is based mainly on wealth. Those swift boat vets are one tough customer too: The people who fought beside Kerry tell it like it was, and he attacks them. He is ashamed of his war record, and I would be too if I was him.Go read about his purple heart aquisitions; he pretty much forced people to give them to him. One of his medal-requiring injuries was just millimeters deep, and was easily contained within a band-aid.

And about that 10's of thousands of tons of WMD: Get real.

Saddam never accounted for their destruction as per the resolution 1441. Appropriate action was taken. End of discussion.

But,,,but,,,but,,, your site is saying they had dangerous farm chemicals in a ammo bunker. That was the implied proof of WMD's. It never mentions that Serin or Mustard gas was found. The whole article puts ion quotes, taken out of context, with no link or credit as to where they were taken from. It is as biased as it gets.

You sir, are a verifed moron and are not worth the trouble to respond to. Go ahead and have the last word, then you can go on your happy way thinking you have won the argument, but the truth is you are wrong about the WMD's. Iraq was obviously no threat to the USA and we weren't in any immediate danger from them. Bush just got trigger happy, after all, it was the man who tried to kill his dad. LOL

 

[burnedout]

"Retired Colonel: Bush Volunteered for Vietnam" - WVLT, Knoxville

One of the criticisms leveled at the President is that he sought guard service to keep him from serving in Vietnam.

Morrisey says, "not so."

"The Air Force, in their ultimate wisdom, assembled a group of 102's and took them to Southeast Asia. Bush volunteered to go. But he needed to have 500 [flight] hours, but he only had just over 300 hours so he wasn't eligible to go,? Morrisey recalls.

 

[burnedout]

Newsweek also reported back in February that Bush volunteered for Vietnam:

The standard rap against Bush is that he was ducking combat by joining the Guard. Actually, the Texas Air Guard had a program called Palace Alert that allowed pilots to volunteer for flight time in Vietnam. Three of Bush's fellow pilots?Udell, Woodfin and Fred Bradley?recalled to NEWSWEEK that Bush inquired with the base commander about signing up for Palace Alert. He was told no; he had too few flying hours at the time and his plane, the F-102, was by then deemed obsolete for air combat

 

[1EZduzit]

"The president himself floated the Palace Alert story in the past, too. But one reason he stopped may be because of what the Post discovered in 1999.

The program was shut down just one week after the president got out of flight school ? making it a suspiciously ineffective way to end up actually going to Vietnam. "

Old news and already brought up and debunked. So he inquired about doing overseas duty in a program already shut down in a war that was now winding down in a plane that wasn't being used. A typical brave ChichkenHawk move.


Link to story

 

[1EZduzit]

I stil think Bush had 6 months tacked on to the end of his 6 year committment. His mitlitary biography shows dates of service from May 27. 1968 to November 21, 1974, which is 6 years and 6 months, 6months more then his commitment. Unless he was somehow making up for missed drills, why the extra 6 months?

Bush Biography

 

[MOHO456]

The point of that article was to prove he had stuff he should not have had. Which is why we invaded. Launch vehicles and UAV's were prohibited under the UN sanctions. Also those centrifuges served only one purpose, creating weapons grade nuclear munitions. I guess you just can't see that a person who is willing to take charge in a risky situation should be commended, I guess you have never been a leader in any similar scenarios. You also shouldn't flame Dubya for his prior service record. He wasn't in Vietnam, big whoop, a lot of people weren't. Was your dad or uncle? We won that war logistically speaking, but lost it because of our ability to see it through. Bush wont let that happen again. Kerry has been ridiculed by the very people he served with. When some 264 people agree that your a moron, and that your not fit to be president, and who have known him far better than you and I, I don't think that is idle chit-chat. His flip flopping euro-asskissing agenda with his greed for tax dollars will bring this economy to ruin. Taking money out of the hands of the people is no way to relieve a depression. He also proposes nealy 1.5 trillion in spending should he be elected, and a $0.50 cent gasoline tax per gallon. If you insist on boarding a sinking ship, go ahead. Just know that all this socialist crap will get old really fast. I don't like taxes nor restrictions on my constitutional amendments: i.e. #2. I just wish you could realize that the war was not illegal, and that we had solid evidence that he was in material violation, which he was. as prooved by that article. The troops love him too, and I would know, I am in contact with several.

 

[1EZduzit]

Yadda,yadda,yadda. Your the one supporting a sinking ship. We need to get out of Iraq as soon as practicaly possible. BTW, I am more qualified to speak of Vietnam and flame the president then you will ever know.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Glad you asked. There was this:

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: MOHO456
Wow this is cute, this whole issue was resolved. It was a crock, a groundless attack on the president. The documents were foraged, and Dan Rather lied about the whole thing, thats why CBS is in the midst of a secret scandal. The liberal media machine just covers its tracks.... And for all of you who think the media is fair, then why was this story buried, or excluded altogether from other newspapers?

Links:

http://www.newsmax.com/archive...2004/6/25/114037.shtml

http://www.washingtontimes.com...40624-112920-5897r.htm

10-12+ poison gas bombs, irrefutable proof that Saddam had and still has a WMD arsenal.

To all the shocked liberals: I'm sorry the truth was so harsh. Go hug a tree and make it all better.

1. It's an old article. It was widely reported at the time.

2. It was already discussed here.

3. "10-12+" hardly constitutes the "massive stockpiles" claimed by the Bush administration.

... but ...

4. As it turns out, it was yet another false alarm anyway. They were not loaded with chemical agents as originally reported: Shells free of chemicals. (Copied from the earlier thread here.)

5. The YABAs seem to be real gluttons for punishment. They never seem to get tired of being wrong. I think that's why they quote NewsMax and the Washington Times so much.


Dan Rather acknowledged his mistake. Any guesses on whether MOHO456 has as much integrity as Dan Rather?

Followed by:

Originally posted by: MOHO456
... What mistakes have I made? You never pointed those out. ...

I guess that makes yet another mistake. Do you have as much integrity as Dan Rather?

Apparently, the answer is still no. You might want to stop asking questions like that if you're just going to run away when I answer them.

 

[Bowfinger]

More disinformation and assorted nonsense by: MOHO456
The point of that article was to prove he had stuff he should not have had. Which is why we invaded. Launch vehicles and UAV's were prohibited under the UN sanctions.

Not quite. Launch vehicles exceeding a certain range were proscribed. The missiles discovered by the U.N. inspectors barely exceeded the allowable range, and only when they lacked luxuries like a payload and guidance system. That might be an adequate reason to destroy the missiles. It most certainly is NOT an adequate reason to invade another country and kill tens of thousands of its people.

Also those centrifuges served only one purpose, creating weapons grade nuclear munitions.

Those obsolete centrifuge parts -- not a whole centrifuge -- predated the first Gulf War and had been buried for years. It is doubtful the Iraqi government even knew it still existed. They certainly were not using it for anything.

I guess you just can't see that a person who is willing to take charge in a risky situation should be commended, I guess you have never been a leader in any similar scenarios. You also shouldn't flame Dubya for his prior service record. He wasn't in Vietnam, big whoop, a lot of people weren't. Was your dad or uncle? We won that war logistically speaking, but lost it because of our ability to see it through. Bush wont let that happen again.

Random noise, nothing specific requiring a response.

Kerry has been ridiculed by the very people he served with. When some 264 people agree that your a moron, and that your not fit to be president, and who have known him far better than you and I, I don't think that is idle chit-chat.

Some 100 million people think King George is a moron and not fit to be President. I can guarantee you that as a group, we are more familiar with Bush than those posers in Swift Boat Liars for Bush. Most of them weren't anywhere near Kerry, other than being somewhere in the same country.

His flip flopping euro-asskissing agenda with his greed for tax dollars will bring this economy to ruin. Taking money out of the hands of the people is no way to relieve a depression. He also proposes nealy 1.5 trillion in spending should he be elected,

More noise, then more ignorance. According to analysts, Bush's so-called plans will cost a full $1 trillion more than Kerry. Put that in your deficit and smoke it.

and a $0.50 cent gasoline tax per gallon.

That one's just a lie, an unadulterated Bush propaganda talking point. He made an off-hand, hypothetical comment to a reporter years ago. He has never proposed, introduced, or voted for any such legislation.

If you insist on boarding a sinking ship, go ahead. Just know that all this socialist crap will get old really fast. I don't like taxes nor restrictions on my constitutional amendments: i.e. #2.

Though you are apparently comfortable with trampling the rest of the Bill of Rights.

I just wish you could realize that the war was not illegal, and that we had solid evidence that he was in material violation, which he was. as prooved by that article. The troops love him too, and I would know, I am in contact with several.

Long on partsian opinion, woefully short on fact.

 

[Farvacola]

Originally posted by: MOHO456
The point of that article was to prove he had stuff he should not have had. Which is why we invaded. Launch vehicles and UAV's were prohibited under the UN sanctions. Also those centrifuges served only one purpose, creating weapons grade nuclear munitions. I guess you just can't see that a person who is willing to take charge in a risky situation should be commended, I guess you have never been a leader in any similar scenarios. You also shouldn't flame Dubya for his prior service record. He wasn't in Vietnam, big whoop, a lot of people weren't. Was your dad or uncle? We won that war logistically speaking, but lost it because of our ability to see it through. Bush wont let that happen again. Kerry has been ridiculed by the very people he served with. When some 264 people agree that your a moron, and that your not fit to be president, and who have known him far better than you and I, I don't think that is idle chit-chat. His flip flopping euro-asskissing agenda with his greed for tax dollars will bring this economy to ruin. Taking money out of the hands of the people is no way to relieve a depression. He also proposes nealy 1.5 trillion in spending should he be elected, and a $0.50 cent gasoline tax per gallon. If you insist on boarding a sinking ship, go ahead. Just know that all this socialist crap will get old really fast. I don't like taxes nor restrictions on my constitutional amendments: i.e. #2. I just wish you could realize that the war was not illegal, and that we had solid evidence that he was in material violation, which he was. as prooved by that article. The troops love him too, and I would know, I am in contact with several.

LOL, the troops support him, i know a COUPLE! HAHA. IF thats not incomplete info, Im not sure what is.

 

[MOHO456]

Speaking of incomplete info, Bowfinger, where's your links to back up what you say? And about those WMD's that werent really WMD's...

Last month, the Pentagon confirmed that the first of the Iraq WMD findings - two shells suspected of containing deadly chemical weapons - were indeed filled with Sarin and Mustard gas.

http://www.newsmax.com/archive...2004/6/25/114037.shtml

And Farvacola can suck a dick if he thinks I need any kind of proof that half of the people I know are in Iraq. People like you piss me off. You have added nothing but stupidity to this equation. I am not a republican, I am a conservative.

You say this is "partisan opinion" but that article clearly states that he was in violation of the resolution. If you're a higher authority than the head weapons inspector, speak up or shut up.

How am I trampling hte Bill of Rights? The Patriot Act is to be used with discretion and responsibility. Name more than one person arrested and held without reason under this law.

My facts are all present in articles I have included, from reputable sites.

"In many of these cases, he is attacking the president for spending when in fact he either supported the proposal or supported even more expensive alternatives," Mr. Mehlman said.

"Senator Kerry consistently mixes up in his discussion spending as tax cuts, and tax cuts as new government spending," he said. "President Bush understands this is the people's money, and when you reduce taxes, you're not spending money in Washington, you're returning money."

http://www.washingtontimes.com...40405-110855-9087r.htm

Yeah, so how is taking money away from the private sector helping our economy again?

This deficit will be easily rectified when the tax cuts come around, and when America is back on it's feet.

May I remind you that in a post 9/11 world, coupled with the West Coast port closures, economists predicted an 11 year recession. We're back in 2. :

http://quote.bloomberg.com/app...QrljLXE&refer=home

Evidence of our growing economy^^

Where are your facts and well grounded arguements? I'm afraid all your hypocracy is showing. I haven't seen hide nore hair of any experts or any real facts of any kind... I need a new challenger. You grow tiresome.

 

[MOHO456]

By the way, don't try to discredit US Vietnam vets. They have seen things that would curl your hair. The vasy majority of those vets were, at one point or another, right there, fighting next to Kerry, or Kerry reported to them. They aren't just shooting crap. They know what they are talking about. War is one of the closest bonds that can be made between 2 men.

 

[1EZduzit]

Birds of a feather flock together.

James R. Bath

?Bath, 55, acknowledges a friendship with George W. Bush that stems from their service together in the Texas Air National Guard.? Jonathan Beaty, ?A Mysterious Mover of Money and Planes,? Time Magazine, October 28, 1991.

?In a copy of the record released by the National Guard in 2000, the man in question, James R. Bath, was listed as being suspended from flying for the National Guard in 1972 for failing to take a medical exam next to a similar listing for Mr. Bush. It has been widely reported that the two were friends and that Mr. Bath invested in Mr. Bush's first major business venture, Arbusto Energy, in the late 1970's after Mr. Bath began working for Salem bin Laden.? Jim Rutenberg, ?A Film to Polarize Along Party Lines,? New York Times, May 17, 2004.

I, Salem M. Binladen, do hereby vest unto James Reynolds Bath, 2330 Bellefontaine, Houston, Texas, full and absolute authority to act on my behalf in all matters relating to the business and operation of Binladen-Houston offices in Houston, Texas.? Notarized Trust Agreement, Harris County, Texas, July 8, 1976.
?According to a 1976 trust agreement, drawn shortly after [George H. W.] Bush was appointed director of the Central Intelligence Agency, Saudi Sheik Salem M. Binladen appointed Bath as his business representative in Houston. Binladen, along with his brothers, owns Binladen Brothers Construction, one of the largest construction companies in the Middle East.? Jerry Urban, ?Feds Investigate Entrepreneur Allegedly Tied to Saudis,? Houston Chronicle, June 4, 1992.


Bush and Bath grounded by ANG

 

[MOHO456]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit<BR>3 blind mice, see how they run

<BR><BR>Well actually i think it sucks that we are going back to vietnam for this campaign. Your man Kerry is sucking air because folks like you made it ok to question military records. The press has looked at his records and sees there his guard history is a nonstory. Maybe Kerry can release his records as well and make the claims against him nonstories.

Hmm interesting point.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: MOHO456

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit<BR>3 blind mice, see how they run

<BR><BR>Well actually i think it sucks that we are going back to vietnam for this campaign. Your man Kerry is sucking air because folks like you made it ok to question military records. The press has looked at his records and sees there his guard history is a nonstory. Maybe Kerry can release his records as well and make the claims against him nonstories.

Hmm interesting point.

LMAO, you mean Kerry wasn't in Vietnam? You mean the Navy didn't just finish an investigation? You mean Kerry never addressed that issue personally? I'm still waiting for Bush to talk about where he was, but he is too scared to address the issue personally.



You don't even know what you mean. Take it to the swiftboat thread, Loser.

 

[conjur]

WASHINGTON - The White House said seven months ago that it had released all the records on President Bush (news - web sites)'s stateside military service during the Vietnam War, yet new records are still dribbling out as Election Day approaches.


The White House on Wednesday night produced a November 1974 document bearing Bush's signature from Cambridge, Mass., where he was attending Harvard Business School, saying he had decided not to continue as a member of the military reserve.


The document, signed a year after Bush left the Texas Air National Guard, said he was leaving the military because of "inadequate time to fulfill possible future commitments."


White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the resignation was found in connection with a lawsuit brought by The Associated Press. The White House said the document had been in Bush's personnel file and that it had been found by the Pentagon (news - web sites).


Earlier Wednesday, the White House said Bush never was disciplined while serving in the Texas Air National Guard, never failed a physical and never asked his father or family friends for help to get him into the Guard.


The White House assertions came in response to a dozen questions submitted by AP in light of new records detailing Bush's Guard service and allegations that have surfaced this election season.


The president's critics say he got help getting into the Guard and was treated with kid gloves once he became a guardsman. Democrats question why Bush was never punished for skipping a required medical examination or missing drills for six months in 1972.


Bush has maintained he fulfilled all of his National Guard requirements and served honorably.


AP asked whether Bush ever participated in a disciplinary process during his Guard service, whether he ever received a critical report or was ever present for a conversation in which his performance, conduct or physical condition were raised by a superior officer.


"No and this is clear from the president's records, which have been made public," the White House said in an e-mail response.


The Texas Air National Guard stripped Bush of his pilot status in August 1972 for failing to take the annual medical exam required of all pilots. Former Air National Guard officials say it was rare for a pilot to skip his physical exam.


"No," the White House replied when asked whether Bush ever failed a medical exam in the Guard or had a medical problem that would have temporarily or permanently disqualified him from flying.


The White House said, "The president did not ask his father or family friends for assistance" in getting into the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam War.


The AP filed lawsuits in federal court and state court in Texas seeking any additional records of Bush's Guard service after the White House said in February that everything had been released.


Documents released since then include Bush's official flight logs as a fighter pilot, showing he spent more than 300 hours in military jets but had shifted to a two-seat training jet several times in his final weeks as a pilot in 1972. Bush spent 40 percent of his flight time in training jets or simulators during the first four months of 1972, double the percentage for the previous five months.


"There could be many reasons why an individual pilot would fly in a training plane, including availability of the planes," the White House said in its written response.


Bush needed to take a physical exam by the end of July 1972 to keep flying. But he skipped the physical and his commanders grounded him in August 1972. Bush never flew for the military again.





The White House said Bush skipped the exam because he expected a transfer to an Alabama unit which did not have the F-102A jets Bush was trained to fly. Bush has said he went to Alabama to work on the unsuccessful U.S. Senate campaign of Winton Blount, a family friend.

"The president was transferring to Alabama to perform equivalent duty in a non-flying capacity, making a flight physical unnecessary," the White House said.

The White House did not answer whether Bush disobeyed a direct order to take the exam. Bush won final approval to train for three months with an Alabama unit a month after he had already been suspended as a pilot.

Bush Document Details Military Departure
http://story.news.yahoo.com/ne...p;cid=544&amp;ncid=716


Uhh...I thought Bush had released ALL of the documents??

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: conjur
Uhh...I thought Bush had released ALL of the documents??

<Bullwinkle> This time for sure, Rocky! </Bullwinkle>

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: conjur
Uhh...I thought Bush had released ALL of the documents??

<Bullwinkle> This time for sure, Rocky! </Bullwinkle>

heh...like I believe *that*!

 

[Carazariah]

Good Research Burned Out - Seems like the stories quoted support the Honorable Discharge and other known facts of the President's Service in the TANG

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Carazariah
Good Research Burned Out - Seems like the stories quoted support the Honorable Discharge and other known facts of the President's Service in the TANG

The question isn't whether he got an honrable discharrge. We know he did, the question is did he deserve it? I don't think he did and so do many others. See my sig.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Found this tucked away on Pg. 5 of the local section of the Fort Worth Star - today.

Bush

New papers show Bush grounded as duty ended

More than a week after a court-imposed deadline to turn over all records of President Bush's military service, the Texas Air National Guard belatedly produced two documents Tuesday that include Bush's orders for his last day of active duty in 1973.

The orders show Bush was on "no-fly" status for his last days of duty because he had been grounded almost a year earlier for skipping an annual medical exam.

The files, released to The Associated Press under a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit, are orders for Bush to appear for two stints of active-duty training: a 1971 exercise in Canada and eight days of duty in July 1973.

The records released Tuesday are the fifth set of documents related to Bush's Vietnam-era National Guard service to be released in response to the AP lawsuit. The federal judge overseeing that case ordered the Pentagon to disclose all of Bush's records by Sept. 24. The four pages of records released Tuesday were the second set of files released after that deadline.

The Texas Air National Guard did not explain the delay.

The 1973 orders come from the most controversial period in Bush's years in the Texas Air National Guard. After May 1972, Bush skipped training for six months, failed to appear for the required physical examination, got permission to train at an Alabama unit whose commanders say he never showed up and put in a flurry of training in 1973 in an effort to meet minimum requirements before leaving for Harvard Business School.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: conjur
Uhh...I thought Bush had released ALL of the documents??

<Bullwinkle> This time for sure, Rocky! </Bullwinkle>

heh...like I believe *that*!

Looks like you called it Conjur. See Captn's post above.

I wonder how many more "That's the last one" documents they'll come up with after the election. I wonder why they're allowed to defy the court and release documents after the deadline. Most of all, I wonder how Bush can have completed his pilot obligations when he was grounded for most of his last year. So many unanswered questions.

 

[Gaard]

hello? charrison?