Bush Wins--Civil Disobedience Time

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: rextilleon
It appears that do to their incredible mastery of every dirty trick under the sun and their expert use of Propoganda, the Bushites will win this election. Kerry's campaign is run by people who have no idea how to fight the forces of Big Brother. Having said that, the next four years look glum. I would say that by year three of the IRaqi fiasco, major civil disobedience will occur. It is my hope that we revist that shinning moment in the 60's where we brought down one president and forced another one to act to bring our boys home. It will soon be time to take to the streets!

HAHAHAHA!!!

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
If I told my in-laws (notorious Republicans) that I was going to Washington DC in order to protest the war in Iraq, they'd think I was either unpatriotic or stupid. Seems to be a common malody in the right's point of view.

To do what YOU think is BEST for YOUR COUNTRY is ALWAYS Patriotic.

The traitors are the ones who silently sit by or just agree for the sake of agreeing.

This world would be very empty without people like you Darkhawk28. You got the guts to go against your family and the traditions to fight for what you believe in, it takes a big man to do that.

Oh, they don't like me to begin with. I'm of Italian dissent in Missouri, married into a W.A.S.P. heritage family, plus with being more of a leftist, it makes for some long evenings, holidays and such.
:laugh:

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
If I told my in-laws (notorious Republicans) that I was going to Washington DC in order to protest the war in Iraq, they'd think I was either unpatriotic or stupid. Seems to be a common malody in the right's point of view.

To do what YOU think is BEST for YOUR COUNTRY is ALWAYS Patriotic.

The traitors are the ones who silently sit by or just agree for the sake of agreeing.

This world would be very empty without people like you Darkhawk28. You got the guts to go against your family and the traditions to fight for what you believe in, it takes a big man to do that.

You know who you and your cronies sound like to me? The Freemen of Montana or Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols. I'm sure McVeigh thought that what he was doing was best for the country so I guess you would term him "patriotic". Look up above for the posts regarding revolution in the same breath with civil disobedience in a direct line from talking about protesting the Bush administration, and tell me there are people who don't justify actions like that in a similar fashion.

The truly amusing part is that 50 million people or so will vote for President Bush, yet the frustrated liberals will act like the majority of the country is frothing at the mouth to get rid of the President. You want to protest to someone? Call your neighbor.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
If I told my in-laws (notorious Republicans) that I was going to Washington DC in order to protest the war in Iraq, they'd think I was either unpatriotic or stupid. Seems to be a common malody in the right's point of view.

To do what YOU think is BEST for YOUR COUNTRY is ALWAYS Patriotic.

The traitors are the ones who silently sit by or just agree for the sake of agreeing.

This world would be very empty without people like you Darkhawk28. You got the guts to go against your family and the traditions to fight for what you believe in, it takes a big man to do that.

You know who you and your cronies sound like to me? The Freemen of Montana or Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols. I'm sure McVeigh thought that what he was doing was best for the country so I guess you would term him "patriotic". Look up above for the posts regarding revolution in the same breath with civil disobedience in a direct line from talking about protesting the Bush administration, and tell me there are people who don't justify actions like that in a similar fashion.

The truly amusing part is that 50 million people or so will vote for President Bush, yet the frustrated liberals will act like the majority of the country is frothing at the mouth to get rid of the President. You want to protest to someone? Call your neighbor.

You know what? You show your true ignorance, by comparing protestors for peace with the men that blew up and killed 150+ people in Oklahoma City. So if you don't agree with this administration and want to do a peaceful protest, you are compared to mass murderers. Mods, ban this troll please.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
If I told my in-laws (notorious Republicans) that I was going to Washington DC in order to protest the war in Iraq, they'd think I was either unpatriotic or stupid. Seems to be a common malody in the right's point of view.

To do what YOU think is BEST for YOUR COUNTRY is ALWAYS Patriotic.

The traitors are the ones who silently sit by or just agree for the sake of agreeing.

This world would be very empty without people like you Darkhawk28. You got the guts to go against your family and the traditions to fight for what you believe in, it takes a big man to do that.

You know who you and your cronies sound like to me? The Freemen of Montana or Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols. I'm sure McVeigh thought that what he was doing was best for the country so I guess you would term him "patriotic". Look up above for the posts regarding revolution in the same breath with civil disobedience in a direct line from talking about protesting the Bush administration, and tell me there are people who don't justify actions like that in a similar fashion.

The truly amusing part is that 50 million people or so will vote for President Bush, yet the frustrated liberals will act like the majority of the country is frothing at the mouth to get rid of the President. You want to protest to someone? Call your neighbor.

Of course we do, disagreement should be punishable!

I am sorry but i am not even American, i still think this world needs people who won't agree for the sake of agreeing, if you disagree with that, so be it.

All HAIL BUSH OR BE UNPATRIOTIC, is that the message? because it is what i read.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
If I told my in-laws (notorious Republicans) that I was going to Washington DC in order to protest the war in Iraq, they'd think I was either unpatriotic or stupid. Seems to be a common malody in the right's point of view.

To do what YOU think is BEST for YOUR COUNTRY is ALWAYS Patriotic.

The traitors are the ones who silently sit by or just agree for the sake of agreeing.

This world would be very empty without people like you Darkhawk28. You got the guts to go against your family and the traditions to fight for what you believe in, it takes a big man to do that.

You know who you and your cronies sound like to me? The Freemen of Montana or Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols. I'm sure McVeigh thought that what he was doing was best for the country so I guess you would term him "patriotic". Look up above for the posts regarding revolution in the same breath with civil disobedience in a direct line from talking about protesting the Bush administration, and tell me there are people who don't justify actions like that in a similar fashion.

The truly amusing part is that 50 million people or so will vote for President Bush, yet the frustrated liberals will act like the majority of the country is frothing at the mouth to get rid of the President. You want to protest to someone? Call your neighbor.

Of course we do, disagreement should be punishable!

I am sorry but i am not even American, i still think this world needs people who won't agree for the sake of agreeing, if you disagree with that, so be it.

All HAIL BUSH OR BE UNPATRIOTIC, is that the message? because it is what i read.

That's what he's saying. Kinda chickensh*t to me. He wouldn't DARE say that to my face. People are easily ignorant, offensive and bigoted behind a keyboard OR like I've recently learned in Missouri, at the polling booth.

 

[sandorski]

If Bush clearly wins the Election without need for recounts etc, you just need to accept it and tough out the next 4 years. That's the way Democracy works.

If it's close and the SC once again arbitrarily appoints Bush, I think that's going to push some over the edge. Hopefully that doesn't happen or that it is handled differently this time.

If Bush wins then does something stupid(very likely) or manages to remove the 2 Term limit, who knows what the result will be.

From my vantage point the US seems to be teetering on the edge and will continue to do so as long as the current Political chicanery and Environment exists. Americans need to tone down the Hypebole, Half-Truths, and Demonization that seems to intensify with each Election cycle. The population is just too evenly split to continue to paint the otherside as Evil Incarnate.

 

[Shuxclams]

Originally posted by: sandorski
If Bush clearly wins the Election without need for recounts etc, you just need to accept it and tough out the next 4 years. That's the way Democracy works.

If it's close and the SC once again arbitrarily appoints Bush, I think that's going to push some over the edge. Hopefully that doesn't happen or that it is handled differently this time.

If Bush wins then does something stupid(very likely) or manages to remove the 2 Term limit, who knows what the result will be.

From my vantage point the US seems to be teetering on the edge and will continue to do so as long as the current Political chicanery and Environment exists. Americans need to tone down the Hypebole, Half-Truths, and Demonization that seems to intensify with each Election cycle. The population is just too evenly split to continue to paint the otherside as Evil Incarnate.

Ask anyone on this planet, exept a Neo-con, if Neo-cons are evil........ LINK











SHUX

 

[Gravity]

I expect the rest of the libs to give in very soon.

Kerry never really had a plan. He might like to come from behind but I don't think he can pull this off. Perhaps he could redeem himself by endorsing bush before the election?

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Gravity
I expect the rest of the libs to give in very soon.

Kerry never really had a plan. He might like to come from behind but I don't think he can pull this off. Perhaps he could redeem himself by endorsing bush before the election?

Don't bet on it son, the neocons false sense of security might be there own undoing.

 

[Michael]

2 months before the election and Democrats are already whining about losing? I also notice that the whine just can't give any credit to anyone who would vote for Bush doing so with their eyes open. If Bush does win, doesn't that make the man the Democrat Party chose to run look even worse?

Protest as much as you want. Lawful protests are your right.

Michael

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Michael
2 months before the election and Democrats are already whining about losing? I also notice that the whine just can't give any credit to anyone who would vote for Bush doing so with their eyes open. If Bush does win, doesn't that make the man the Democrat Party chose to run look even worse?

Protest as much as you want. Lawful protests are your right.

Michael

No, in my eyes, it make the wisdom of the American people look bad. Do the American people have the right to be unwise? Sure they do. But, I also have the right to try to bring forth my own feelings on matters.

Personally, I've never stated that the Democrats are gonna lose, just that it's a possibility. It's also a possibility that Kerry could win. Too early to tell yet since there's a lot of campaigning left to go. I'd say that the Republicans have gotten swollen heads at this point.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: rextilleon
It appears that do to their incredible mastery of every dirty trick under the sun and their expert use of Propoganda, the Bushites will win this election. Kerry's campaign is run by people who have no idea how to fight the forces of Big Brother. Having said that, the next four years look glum. I would say that by year three of the IRaqi fiasco, major civil disobedience will occur. It is my hope that we revist that shinning moment in the 60's where we brought down one president and forced another one to act to bring our boys home. It will soon be time to take to the streets!

Guess what? The huge riots and protests over the Vietnam war ended abruptly after the draft was scrapped in 1973. After that, the antiwar protests were hardly different in size and effect than what we see today. The vast amjority of antiwar rioters of the 60s were fueled by kids scared of being drafted... not by any real moral problem with the war

This is why the antiwar folks are doing everything they can to get a draft passed, or at least spread as much FUD about a draft as possible.

You can dream all you like, but you'll never see anything like the 60s riots again unless a draft is passed... and that's a real big long shot.

Was it the draft ending or the Vietnam war ending that brought about the end of the protests? I say it was the end of the war eliminated the need for the protests. That is what the protests were all about.

Then you need to learn your history. Military actions in southeast asia did not end until two years after the draft ended.

I find it amusing that you say a re-implentation of the draft will cause riots. Why? Becasue then all families will be at risk with their children? Is it fair to keep sending the same people over there to risk their lives? Shouldn't everybody get a chance to PROVE their patriotism instead of just giving it lip service??

The army is VOLUNTEER. Everyone that wants a chance to serve gets a chance to serve.

If you knew ANYTHING about the military, you would understand that an all volunteer force is far superior to a conscripted army.

And no one's "children" are at risk. The armed forces only accepts adults.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: rextilleon
It appears that do to their incredible mastery of every dirty trick under the sun and their expert use of Propoganda, the Bushites will win this election. Kerry's campaign is run by people who have no idea how to fight the forces of Big Brother. Having said that, the next four years look glum. I would say that by year three of the IRaqi fiasco, major civil disobedience will occur. It is my hope that we revist that shinning moment in the 60's where we brought down one president and forced another one to act to bring our boys home. It will soon be time to take to the streets!

in other words if you dont win throw a riot? pitch a fit like a spoiled child? liberals do that all the time... what is new about your idea?

Originally posted by: rextilleon It will soon be time to take to the streets!

the national socialists(the political ancestors of the leftists of today) said that in germany too in the middle of the 20th century.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

I really wouldn't count Kerry out just yet. I expect this race to fully tighten in the coming weeks.

I do agree though, Kerry has got to provide us with a clear cut plan for Iraq if he wants to win. I'm waiting for the debates (we better have three!).