Call of Duty: Black Ops

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AstroManLuca

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The first major difference is due to the added recoil to basically all weapons, and the lack of SP. It is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH harder to kill people at range. It feels a lot less like whoever gets the drop first automatically gets the kill, and at long range, you've having a serious firefight, not a race to see who can nail who first with a super accurate AR. I suspect this is why you start with an extra clip of ammo compared to MW2 - youre gonna need it. I'm quite a bit out of my comfort zone with this, as I'm usually a stealthy type player who likes to sneak around and kill people before they see me. Now, just because I get the first shot doesnt mean I'll get the last. I think a lot of players are going to struggle with this change.

God damn it, I was going to try to be strong but now I might actually want to buy this one. After I sold MW2 I said I wouldn't buy the new COD game every year. But this sounds like more my style.
 

BD2003

Lifer
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GrantMeThePower said:
Did you try the Gun Game wager match? That one, to me anyway, seemed like a perfect mix of fun and tension (where as one in the chamber seemed to just be super tense and the sticks and stones seemed like it didnt have the fun factor)

I've tried, but there simply isn't enough people to reliably start a game. I've sat on the screen for 10 mins waiting for people to join.
 

GrantMeThePower

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I've tried, but there simply isn't enough people to reliably start a game. I've sat on the screen for 10 mins waiting for people to join.

Ah...that makes sense. At least you got to try the one in the chamber.

Overall, what are your first thoughts about the whole package as compared to MW2? As good, better, worse? Obviously its totally subjective, but takes everything into account (polish, graphics, balance, etc). Just curious.
 

GrantMeThePower

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God damn it, I was going to try to be strong but now I might actually want to buy this one. After I sold MW2 I said I wouldn't buy the new COD game every year. But this sounds like more my style.

I think I'm going to miss hiding with my laser beam AR shooting people from across the map
 

GrantMeThePower

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Hey, BD...sorry for all the questions, but i have a biggie-

I know you can now split screen for multiplayer with one person as a "guest" but do you know if you can do split screen with each person having their own XBL account/character?
 

BD2003

Lifer
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GrantMeThePower said:
Hey, BD...sorry for all the questions, but i have a biggie-

I know you can now split screen for multiplayer with one person as a "guest" but do you know if you can do split screen with each person having their own XBL account/character?

I wish I could answer that, but I have only one xbl gold acct. Honestly, I'd be shocked if you couldn't. I'm going to assume you both need gold.

Also, gun game is awesome. Won my first game. It's really, really hard to get that last tac knife kill. That thing is fing useless.
 

GrantMeThePower

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I wish I could answer that, but I have only one xbl gold acct. Honestly, I'd be shocked if you couldn't. I'm going to assume you both need gold.

Also, gun game is awesome. Won my first game. It's really, really hard to get that last tac knife kill. That thing is fing useless.

Yeah, i thought that you may not know...My roommate was going to get his own account instead of us just sharing mine for this game because he felt bad ruining my K ratio and him wanting to customize stuff his own way. Just would have liked to know that before he bought a gold account and it not working.

When you say the tac knife is useless, are you taking about the ballistic knife thing? It looked to me to be a lot like the throwing knife with just a lower trajectory. I didnt realize that was the last thing you had to kill with on the gun game, but congrats on the W!!
 

BD2003

Lifer
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GrantMeThePower said:
Ah...that makes sense. At least you got to try the one in the chamber.

Overall, what are your first thoughts about the whole package as compared to MW2? As good, better, worse? Obviously its totally subjective, but takes everything into account (polish, graphics, balance, etc). Just curious.

I've got a lot of thoughts on that, for MP, 100% positive impressions even. Theyve really outdone themselves....im blown away, and I had high expectations. When I take I break from mp, I'll go into detail.

Also, the stat tracking is RIDICULOUS. Imagine the most you would ever think they'd track, then double that. Then double it again. More details to come.
 

BD2003

Lifer
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GrantMeThePower said:
Yeah, i thought that you may not know...My roommate was going to get his own account instead of us just sharing mine for this game because he felt bad ruining my K ratio and him wanting to customize stuff his own way. Just would have liked to know that before he bought a gold account and it not working.

When you say the tac knife is useless, are you taking about the ballistic knife thing? It looked to me to be a lot like the throwing knife with just a lower trajectory. I didnt realize that was the last thing you had to kill with on the gun game, but congrats on the W!!

Yeah, I mean the ballistic. The range is very short, it's damn tough to get that kill.
 

GrantMeThePower

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Yeah, I mean the ballistic. The range is very short, it's damn tough to get that kill.

Short range?! wow, i gotta say, i think thats cool. I was imaging it being abused by people shoooting it really far!

BD2003 said:
I've got a lot of thoughts on that, for MP, 100% positive impressions even. Theyve really outdone themselves....im blown away, and I had high expectations. When I take I break from mp, I'll go into detail.

Also, the stat tracking is RIDICULOUS. Imagine the most you would ever think they'd track, then double that. Then double it again. More details to come.

Awesome!!!
 
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At this point, I definitely dont have the CP to buy everything I want. It was great to pick exactly the perk and attachment I wanted, but it feels limiting to have it all there and not to be able to afford it. Still, I'm digging the flexibility of the system. Each weapon is 2000cp, each perk 2000cp. Attachments range from 1000 to 3000 cp. I havent even bought any equipment yet, I'm still trying to work my way through the perks.

There are actually two leaderboards - the normal and the prestige. You can view both, but to compete in the prestige you have to lay out 50000CP.

How much, on average, are you earning per match? Do the types of matches vary the amount of CP earned? Do you get more CP for more kills, winning, completing challenges, etc?
 
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God damn it, I was going to try to be strong but now I might actually want to buy this one. After I sold MW2 I said I wouldn't buy the new COD game every year. But this sounds like more my style.

Don't worry, I've already swallowed my pride and am getting it, so you aren't going to be the first. BD's impressions are actually taking me from looking forward to Tuesday to almost full-on hype mode.
 

BD2003

Lifer
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BD, whats the avg amount of cash you earn per match?

That depends on a whole host of factors. You generally get 10% of your score as CP, so you're average tdm will net you 150-300. Each rank up gets you 1000-2000 CP. Then the contracts net you varying amounts depending how tough they are. Some are really tough. I actually failed a very simple one - get two longshots in 40m of game time. I only got one. That should also tell you how god damn hard it is to nail people from afar with an AR.

Right now, I've unlocked about half the weapons available to me. I'm focusing on perks for the most part, and as the distance between levels gets longer that should change, but at least for the beginning, you won't have nearly enough to keep up with what's available. But the ability to buy any perk you want from the start is fucking brilliant.
 

GrantMeThePower

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actually failed a very simple one - get two longshots in 40m of game time. I only got one. That should also tell you how god damn hard it is to nail people from afar with an AR.

Wow...that really is a perfect example of the difference. Especially if you were really trying to shoot people from far away.

On justin.tv there is a guy playing using the m16 and it looks like that is a pretty solid gun.
 

GrantMeThePower

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Oh boy, MW2 bitches are gonna struggle and call the game a POS...here we go!

How come?

MW2 was the first online FPS I ever played. I'm guessing this is going to be difficult but I'm super excited to learn a new game...I dont think i'll call it a POS
 

RavenSEAL

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How come?

MW2 was the first online FPS I ever played. I'm guessing this is going to be difficult but I'm super excited to learn a new game...I dont think i'll call it a POS

It's hard to understand unless you've played MW2 for a while and quickly switched over to a more realistic FPS(BC2/MAG).

I find the transition the transition from more realistic shooter to MW2 extremely easy...first time i played an online match i went 21-4 lol...When i went back to BC2...i was in hell for about 30 minutes...
 

BD2003

Lifer
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BD how do you have it? Tester/Developer?

Nope, nothing that crazy. I just bought it on craigslist for 80. I'm sure anyone else could do the same if they wanted to. They've shipped millions of discs around the world, probably tens of thousands are on the streets.
 

GrantMeThePower

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It's hard to understand unless you've played MW2 for a while and quickly switched over to a more realistic FPS(BC2/MAG).

I find the transition the transition from more realistic shooter to MW2 extremely easy...first time i played an online match i went 21-4 lol...When i went back to BC2...i was in hell for about 30 minutes...

Oh, i see.

yeah, i didnt play for a couple months and my first round back had a great (for me) round of like 23-8, but that didn't last long and last night i had like a 10-14 round. that never happened before. I think that players change and evolve and old tactics dont work. I'm guessing there is a learning curve and i'm going to suck and be frustrated at first. I'm just glad of something DIFFERENT though.

Are you going to get BO?
 

GrantMeThePower

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Nope, nothing that crazy. I just bought it on craigslist for 80. I'm sure anyone else could do the same if they wanted to. They've shipped millions of discs around the world, probably tens of thousands are on the streets.

What city do you live in?

A few of my friends went to the launch party last night for black ops in LA...and not only did they not get the game, but they didn't even play it while they were there.
 

RavenSEAL

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Oh, i see.

yeah, i didnt play for a couple months and my first round back had a great (for me) round of like 23-8, but that didn't last long and last night i had like a 10-14 round. that never happened before. I think that players change and evolve and old tactics dont work. I'm guessing there is a learning curve and i'm going to suck and be frustrated at first. I'm just glad of something DIFFERENT though.

Are you going to get BO?

Yep, got Hardened edition pre-ordered @ gamestop.
 

BD2003

Lifer
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GrantMeThePower said:
What city do you live in?

A few of my friends went to the launch party last night for black ops in LA...and not only did they not get the game, but they didn't even play it while they were there.

NYC. Population density is obviously in my favor, but I assume e same for any city.
 
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