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Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
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I can't see any benefit in using a gun like the m14. The M16 will kill faster and is usable in more situations.
 

fbrdphreak

Lifer
Apr 17, 2004
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Just something different. I like the idea of the M14 & FAL, but the BO maps are so closed in with so few long lines of sight that I often don't run them because I lose in a surprise CQB situation.

I might need to fire up MW2 again, for old times' sake.
 

velillen

Platinum Member
Jul 12, 2006
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Just something different. I like the idea of the M14 & FAL, but the BO maps are so closed in with so few long lines of sight that I often don't run them because I lose in a surprise CQB situation.

I might need to fire up MW2 again, for old times' sake.

Theres a few maps i switch to my FAL (though im going to try the m14 soon). Array and Jungle are pretty good for them as its more med-long with fewer short range encounters for me. (since i stay out of the tower for example). But yes for many maps i still rock my galil or famas.
 

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
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Had some great games last night in Ground War including the most crushing victory I think I've ever enjoyed (not points-wise, but overall "command of the map-wise"). We had 4 Huey's including 2 from Bucwylde, a constant rain of mortars and such, it was ridiculous.

Then we had that last game on Jungle where the team absolutely locked down the map, it was awful.

I seem to have on & off games with the M14 and FAL. Some days I'm in tune with the semi-auto, others it's a no go.

Sorry I couldn't join you guys earlier. I was starting my last match before getting some work done.

Yeah, I have on/off games as well. And you've not joined in since release week, you lone wolf you...

I can't see any benefit in using a gun like the m14. The M16 will kill faster and is usable in more situations.

I suck with the M16, I dunno why but it just doesn't work for me (which is odd because I loved it in CoD 4/MW2). The M14 fires very quickly and goes right back to zero with every shot.

Theres a few maps i switch to my FAL (though im going to try the m14 soon). Array and Jungle are pretty good for them as its more med-long with fewer short range encounters for me. (since i stay out of the tower for example). But yes for many maps i still rock my galil or famas.

Make sure you add the grip to the M14 for even more recoil reducing awesomeness, might as well be a pea shooter.
 

bucwylde23

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Apr 21, 2005
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Had some great games last night in Ground War including the most crushing victory I think I've ever enjoyed (not points-wise, but overall "command of the map-wise"). We had 4 Huey's including 2 from Bucwylde, a constant rain of mortars and such, it was ridiculous.

Then we had that last game on Jungle where the team absolutely locked down the map, it was awful.



Yeah, I have on/off games as well. And you've not joined in since release week, you lone wolf you...



I suck with the M16, I dunno why but it just doesn't work for me (which is odd because I loved it in CoD 4/MW2). The M14 fires very quickly and goes right back to zero with every shot.



Make sure you add the grip to the M14 for even more recoil reducing awesomeness, might as well be a pea shooter.

That game was crazy, there was napalm, mortars, choppers constantly coming in. I'm really surprised that team didn't quit since they were getting completely dominated. Lot of fun though, I was pissed off that that we ended with that horrible match on jungle.
 

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
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We'll have our vindication someday Buc. It was good to play with ya though, you're a beast!!

BTW, I tried saving the replay of Hueytown (as I call that awesome game) and it only saved the first 6 mins or so of that match. Check and see if yours is intact, I may steal it.
 

fbrdphreak

Lifer
Apr 17, 2004
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Had some great games last night in Ground War including the most crushing victory I think I've ever enjoyed (not points-wise, but overall "command of the map-wise"). We had 4 Huey's including 2 from Bucwylde, a constant rain of mortars and such, it was ridiculous.
Man that is redikerous

Yeah, I have on/off games as well. And you've not joined in since release week, you lone wolf you...
Yeah, I've been finishing my current job, starting a new one, continuing my usual 2nd job, and packing to move this weekend. My BO sessions consist of a quick couple of FFA rounds and that's it :'(
 

PimpJuice

Platinum Member
Feb 14, 2005
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That game was crazy, there was napalm, mortars, choppers constantly coming in. I'm really surprised that team didn't quit since they were getting completely dominated. Lot of fun though, I was pissed off that that we ended with that horrible match on jungle.

Hopeless and I tried to join up with you guys but looked like you had a full party. Sounds like a good time.

I hate playing with Buc, airspace is always full!
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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I haven't even had a chance to turn on my 360 in like two weeks. I want to play BO, but in between work, moving, and some jackass rear ending me Thursday, I've had my hands full. =(

Maybe this week I'll get some time to play.
 

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
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Yeah, we were playing GW and we had 9, we even had friends joining the other team, although honestly I felt pretty bad for 'em!
 

bucwylde23

Diamond Member
Apr 21, 2005
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We'll have our vindication someday Buc. It was good to play with ya though, you're a beast!!

BTW, I tried saving the replay of Hueytown (as I call that awesome game) and it only saved the first 6 mins or so of that match. Check and see if yours is intact, I may steal it.

I'll check tonight, I didn't play anymore after that so I should still have it. I'll put it up on my fileshare. Probably around 7 tonight.

It's much more fun to play with a full team that communicates though.. I play domination a lot either with one other friend or by myself and I get pretty frustrated. Whoever was in the game that plays the audio over his speakers has some pretty funny stuff too.
 
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digiram

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Apr 17, 2004
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I'll check tonight, I didn't play anymore after that so I should still have it. I'll put it up on my fileshare. Probably around 7 tonight.

It's much more fun to play with a full team that communicates though.. I play domination a lot either with one other friend or by myself and I get pretty frustrated. Whoever was in the game that plays the audio over his speakers has some pretty funny stuff too.

You yell at the green guys all day to?
 

bucwylde23

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Apr 21, 2005
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You yell at the green guys all day to?

a LOT. It happens so often that i'm sitting on a flag capturing it, and a teammate is just standing there just barely outside the bounds of taking the flag basically using me as bait to see what happens to me rather than help me take it faster.

Playing with kabob's group though no one is like that so it's much more enjoyable.
 

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
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I'll check tonight, I didn't play anymore after that so I should still have it. I'll put it up on my fileshare. Probably around 7 tonight.

It's much more fun to play with a full team that communicates though.. I play domination a lot either with one other friend or by myself and I get pretty frustrated. Whoever was in the game that plays the audio over his speakers has some pretty funny stuff too.

Yeah, we have a very...animated group over at AVS. That was MeowMeoow playing stuff over his speakers, it was funny at first but it started getting overly loud and obnoxious and I had to mute him until he quit!

a LOT. It happens so often that i'm sitting on a flag capturing it, and a teammate is just standing there just barely outside the bounds of taking the flag basically using me as bait to see what happens to me rather than help me take it faster.

Playing with kabob's group though no one is like that so it's much more enjoyable.

Yeah, I played a game with just one guy and a bunch of randoms yesterday, it was awful. First, I was the only person on our team who went positive. Next, I was the only person on our team actually trying to capture/hold control points. Grrr.

Communication is the key. Having "good" players is the next. They don't have to have fantastic kill ratios or anything, they just need to know generally how to play the game (when to rush for a point, when/how to set up defense, etc).
 

digiram

Diamond Member
Apr 17, 2004
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I honestly can't understand how anyone can use the m14. That's the worst gun in the gun game let alone basic multiplayer.

By the way, the gun game's been a lot of fun. As well as the other wager matches. I went 8-14 in sticks and stones and won because I was getting kills with the cross bow and not just running around stabbing.
 

BD2003

Lifer
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Theres a lot to like about the m14. The obvious part is that it and the fal are stronger than any other AR with a 2-3 shot kill. Semi auto helps you conserve on ammo, and provides easy recoil control. With an m14 I can shoot with laser beam accuracy if I modulate my fire rate, something much more difficult with full auto ARs. And specifically with the m14, the recoil is straight up, quite often directly into a headshot.

It's certainly not the easiest weapon to use, but it's a solid choice if you can handle it.
 

GrantMeThePower

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Jun 10, 2005
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zombie mode is fun, lasted up to 27 rounds

Wow. Thats really impressive. I think I'm not "getting" zombie mode. It was one of the things i was most excited for, but I can't get my buddies to give it a good try. I've played it by myself and with one other person, but we never got past round 8.

What level did you do that on? Was it just you and one other guy? Tips?
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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The only thing I dislike about the M14 and the FAL are the close combat drawbacks and the multiple target situations. If there are two or three guys reasonably close to each other, I can drop them faster with the Galil, AK47, or Commando faster than I can with the M14. For long range fights, it is unmatched.
 

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
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I honestly can't understand how anyone can use the m14. That's the worst gun in the gun game let alone basic multiplayer.

You could say the same about the FAL in MW2 yet I have a friend who was a monster with the thing, it just works for me. And considering it fires as quick as you can pull your finger the time to kill an opponent at medium range is actually faster than that of the M16 because there is no delay in the shots while the M16 has a delay between bursts (and takes 4 hits to kill at medium range).

I agree, against groups or CQB there are definitely better options.

Theres a lot to like about the m14. The obvious part is that it and the fal are stronger than any other AR with a 2-3 shot kill. Semi auto helps you conserve on ammo, and provides easy recoil control. With an m14 I can shoot with laser beam accuracy if I modulate my fire rate, something much more difficult with full auto ARs. And specifically with the m14, the recoil is straight up, quite often directly into a headshot.

It's certainly not the easiest weapon to use, but it's a solid choice if you can handle it.

Exactly. I will say, I tried the FAL and the recoil threw me off like crazy. After 2 deaths I ditched it. The Grip does make a good difference on the M14 but since I don't need an optic nor an extended mag it doesn't really hinder me at all. I can go grip by itself or grip + suppressor.

The only thing I dislike about the M14 and the FAL are the close combat drawbacks and the multiple target situations. If there are two or three guys reasonably close to each other, I can drop them faster with the Galil, AK47, or Commando faster than I can with the M14. For long range fights, it is unmatched.

Yeah, they definitely lack in that respect. Although last night it was so great because a group of enemies decided to approach me juuuuuust spread out enough that I could take one out right before the next rounded the corner, I got 4 in a row that way, and with SoH the reloads are like lightning.
 

JoPh

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im going going to give the m14 a try tonight.. i didnt find the recoil on the FAL bad.. I will test the m14 out and see which one I like..
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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Where do you guys end up getting the most shots hit at? Looking at mine, I was surprised I get a ton of stomach / crotch hits. That seems to be the primary area I kill by. It makes sense though, because I aim low and adjust the recoil as I go upwards.
 

digiram

Diamond Member
Apr 17, 2004
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I actually liked the FAL in MW2, but can't stand it in Black OPs as well. I seem to really feel the recoil when I use the m14 and fal in BLOPS. I just can't seem to control it.

Maybe it's because I haven't given them fair shot yet in BLOPS.
 
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