Call of Duty: Black Ops

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digiram

Diamond Member
Apr 17, 2004
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Where do you guys end up getting the most shots hit at? Looking at mine, I was surprised I get a ton of stomach / crotch hits. That seems to be the primary area I kill by. It makes sense though, because I aim low and adjust the recoil as I go upwards.

Same with me and the rest of my friends.
 

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
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I actually liked the FAL in MW2, but can't stand it in Black OPs as well. I seem to really feel the recoil when I use the m14 and fal in BLOPS. I just can't seem to control it.

Maybe it's because I haven't given them fair shot yet in BLOPS.

I don't like the FAL at all, and the M14 w/o the grip is rough, but with the grip it's awesome. But to each his own.

Same with me and the rest of my friends.

Crotch for me as well.
 

sygyzy

Lifer
Oct 21, 2000
14,001
4
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Where do you guys end up getting the most shots hit at? Looking at mine, I was surprised I get a ton of stomach / crotch hits. That seems to be the primary area I kill by. It makes sense though, because I aim low and adjust the recoil as I go upwards.

I always try to aim for the head and I get all my shots in the stomach/crotch area as well. I also look at other people's stats and it's exactly the same. What that tells me is most people just shoot center mass or the biggest area. I would't chalk it up to me purposely aiming for that area.
 

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
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here is a recoil vid on the m14 vs fal..

lol at the m14.. it is straight up evertime.. how does grip change this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp-7YEN6Wt4

Because the point of aim barely moves after every shot if you use the grip (which he's not).

It's up to you, give it a whirl or don't, but having tried both personally I can't get quick follow up shots with the FAL, I can go crazy on the M14 with the grip.
 

JoPh

Diamond Member
Aug 8, 2002
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Because the point of aim barely moves after every shot if you use the grip (which he's not).

It's up to you, give it a whirl or don't, but having tried both personally I can't get quick follow up shots with the FAL, I can go crazy on the M14 with the grip.

im def going to use it. everyone keeps recommending it.
 

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
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Good, since you're listening to advice go sell that silly PS3 version and come play on the 360!
 

JoPh

Diamond Member
Aug 8, 2002
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Good, since you're listening to advice go sell that silly PS3 version and come play on the 360!

dont get me wrong. i would LOVE to have it on 360. just looking for a dirt cheap version.
 

Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
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Wow. Thats really impressive. I think I'm not "getting" zombie mode. It was one of the things i was most excited for, but I can't get my buddies to give it a good try. I've played it by myself and with one other person, but we never got past round 8.

What level did you do that on? Was it just you and one other guy? Tips?

Most I've gone is round 13 on the small classic map with just my dad. Most of the time we get around round 10. I rarely play multiplayer because most people that play zombies online are absolutely horrible at it and it is not fun at all when 3 idiots are staring at the same barricade.
 

bucwylde23

Diamond Member
Apr 21, 2005
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I now agree with Kabob 100% on the m14. I tried it basically for the first time tonight and it's pretty damn good.

oh and sorry sygyzy I couldn't play.. got to get to bed early for work. Feel free to join me anytime I'm on though
 

Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
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I now agree with Kabob 100% on the m14. I tried it basically for the first time tonight and it's pretty damn good.

oh and sorry sygyzy I couldn't play.. got to get to bed early for work. Feel free to join me anytime I'm on though

Well my 3.4 k/d ratio in my last 5 games with a fully automatic gives me little reason to use an m14, especially when my accuracy is significantly higher using the M16 than the Galil. Only reason I use the Galil is same reason I stopped using the M16 in MW2, CQB. Although the weapon I have the best consistent k/d ratio with is the SPAS-12 actually. I use it exclusively in CTF.
 

Tek_Ed

Member
Sep 22, 2010
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The G11 is my new gun of choice with the low power scope as attachment. Fantastic rate of fire and effective at short and medium range, which is where I like it.

Finished a few games last night with awesome K : D ratios using the G11.

Not sure I want to prestige yet!
 

BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
16,815
1
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So it's been about a month, now that the initial shine should have worn off for everyone, how's everyone feel about the game in general at this point?

I'm certainly still playing and enjoying it, but I still feel that despite it's flaws, mw2 was overall more fun to play. In many ways BO is a better game, but it has this bland feeling compared to mw2. I've never really warmed up to the maps, and I find the cookie cutter yet wildly imbalanced weapons to be a complete turn off. Right off the bat I feel like lmgs, snipers and shotguns have no serious place in the game, and amongst smgs and ARs there are few real choices.

The power and difficulty of attaining the pro perks, the simply better high level weapons, and the smaller level cap have really ruined the fun of prestiging for me, and in turn my desire to play the game at all.

I've sensed a certain amount of mw2 hatred leading up to BO, but looking back, the only real game breaking flaw in Mw2 was the overpowered killstreaks, and at least then there was a barebones mode that got rid of the problem entirely. There are still a fee ugly perk combos such and Oma/dangerclose/noobtube. But it really wasn't that prevalent overall. To me, the foundation of the game has to be weapon balance, and every class was viable in mw2. You'd see rpds where you don't ever see rpks in Bo. Snipers, shotgunners, smg rushers...they were all there. In Bo it's just famas and ak74us everywhere.

Building up to release I really thought this would be the one to prove that treyarch isn't the b-team, that they really get it. But sadly I feel it's still the case, and without the real IW, where does CoD go from here?
 

TheStuck

Member
Jun 27, 2007
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So it's been about a month, now that the initial shine should have worn off for everyone, how's everyone feel about the game in general at this point?

I'm certainly still playing and enjoying it, but I still feel that despite it's flaws, mw2 was overall more fun to play. In many ways BO is a better game, but it has this bland feeling compared to mw2. I've never really warmed up to the maps, and I find the cookie cutter yet wildly imbalanced weapons to be a complete turn off. Right off the bat I feel like lmgs, snipers and shotguns have no serious place in the game, and amongst smgs and ARs there are few real choices.

The power and difficulty of attaining the pro perks, the simply better high level weapons, and the smaller level cap have really ruined the fun of prestiging for me, and in turn my desire to play the game at all.

I've sensed a certain amount of mw2 hatred leading up to BO, but looking back, the only real game breaking flaw in Mw2 was the overpowered killstreaks, and at least then there was a barebones mode that got rid of the problem entirely. There are still a fee ugly perk combos such and Oma/dangerclose/noobtube. But it really wasn't that prevalent overall. To me, the foundation of the game has to be weapon balance, and every class was viable in mw2. You'd see rpds where you don't ever see rpks in Bo. Snipers, shotgunners, smg rushers...they were all there. In Bo it's just famas and ak74us everywhere.

Building up to release I really thought this would be the one to prove that treyarch isn't the b-team, that they really get it. But sadly I feel it's still the case, and without the real IW, where does CoD go from here?

I agree with most this. It still hasnt sucked me in like MW2.
 

RavenSEAL

Diamond Member
Jan 4, 2010
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People need to learn to play this shit, i'm sick of noobs thinking it's team deathmatch when i play domination or demolition, it's pathetic, i had about 7 games yesterday where i was the only person in my team with a kdr higher than 1 and still had more captures than anyone else.
 

bucwylde23

Diamond Member
Apr 21, 2005
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I am loving Black Ops. I got tired of all the bullshit in MW2, the killstreaks, people joining up with teammates to get nukes, quickscoping, etc etc etc. Overall I think MW2 was a great game but Black Ops is just more my style I guess.
I don't have too much of a problem with the maps, other than the crazy spawns in team deathmatch. I play domination and that pretty much takes care of the spawn issues for me.
I do think that making the pro perks so hard to get is part of prestiging. I kind of like for it to be a tough decision to do it. I just did prestige lvl 4 last night and while I miss the pro perks, I typically use hardline and sleight of hand, and both of those are pretty easy to get the pro version of.
 

TheStuck

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Jun 27, 2007
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People need to learn to play this shit, i'm sick of noobs thinking it's team deathmatch when i play domination or demolition, it's pathetic, i had about 7 games yesterday where i was the only person in my team with a kdr higher than 1 and still had more captures than anyone else.

That happens everytime. I think i have only been in one group of randoms where everyone was trying to capture and that was on Nuke Town which was just fun chaos.
 

dougp

Diamond Member
May 3, 2002
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So it's been about a month, now that the initial shine should have worn off for everyone, how's everyone feel about the game in general at this point?

I played the game a LOT when it came out since I had that week off. Since then, my playing time has gone down as I purchased additional games and I've tried to mix it up. I still really enjoy the game, and trying out new class setups.

I'm certainly still playing and enjoying it, but I still feel that despite it's flaws, mw2 was overall more fun to play. In many ways BO is a better game, but it has this bland feeling compared to mw2. I've never really warmed up to the maps, and I find the cookie cutter yet wildly imbalanced weapons to be a complete turn off. Right off the bat I feel like lmgs, snipers and shotguns have no serious place in the game, and amongst smgs and ARs there are few real choices.

I'm going to disagree with you here. I'm not sure what you play, but I see quite a few LMGs (M60, Stoner and RPK) being used effectively, snipers on almost all long range maps and shotguns in close quarters. I pretty much use everything but LMGs since I'm not a fan. I also don't get how cookie cutter guns can be imbalanced? I think an argument can be made for any AR, depending on your play style - same with SMGs.

The power and difficulty of attaining the pro perks, the simply better high level weapons, and the smaller level cap have really ruined the fun of prestiging for me, and in turn my desire to play the game at all.

If my goal was to unlock perks as fast as I can, I'd probably have most done by level 20-25. I think the speed at which we do go through prestige makes it more fun, and much less of a grind that MW2 feels like since they added levels.
 

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
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I now agree with Kabob 100% on the m14. I tried it basically for the first time tonight and it's pretty damn good.

oh and sorry sygyzy I couldn't play.. got to get to bed early for work. Feel free to join me anytime I'm on though

Told ya! It's so accurate. Don't get me wrong, I probably play better with the Commando but I like using the M14 SO much more!!

Well my 3.4 k/d ratio in my last 5 games with a fully automatic gives me little reason to use an m14, especially when my accuracy is significantly higher using the M16 than the Galil. Only reason I use the Galil is same reason I stopped using the M16 in MW2, CQB. Although the weapon I have the best consistent k/d ratio with is the SPAS-12 actually. I use it exclusively in CTF.

Meh, I've had runs of games with > 10:1 kill ratios when using the M14 and I've had runs with kill ratios around 1:1, my overall kill ratio with the weapon is > 2:1 though so I'm enjoying it. That said, the Commando is, for me, still a "better" weapon but I like playing with the M14 alot more.

So it's been about a month, now that the initial shine should have worn off for everyone, how's everyone feel about the game in general at this point?

I'm certainly still playing and enjoying it, but I still feel that despite it's flaws, mw2 was overall more fun to play. In many ways BO is a better game, but it has this bland feeling compared to mw2. I've never really warmed up to the maps, and I find the cookie cutter yet wildly imbalanced weapons to be a complete turn off. Right off the bat I feel like lmgs, snipers and shotguns have no serious place in the game, and amongst smgs and ARs there are few real choices.

The power and difficulty of attaining the pro perks, the simply better high level weapons, and the smaller level cap have really ruined the fun of prestiging for me, and in turn my desire to play the game at all.

I've sensed a certain amount of mw2 hatred leading up to BO, but looking back, the only real game breaking flaw in Mw2 was the overpowered killstreaks, and at least then there was a barebones mode that got rid of the problem entirely. There are still a fee ugly perk combos such and Oma/dangerclose/noobtube. But it really wasn't that prevalent overall. To me, the foundation of the game has to be weapon balance, and every class was viable in mw2. You'd see rpds where you don't ever see rpks in Bo. Snipers, shotgunners, smg rushers...they were all there. In Bo it's just famas and ak74us everywhere.

Building up to release I really thought this would be the one to prove that treyarch isn't the b-team, that they really get it. But sadly I feel it's still the case, and without the real IW, where does CoD go from here?

MW2 was more fun for me, but I'm enjoying BO. There's still alot of stuff they need to fix.

I do think that making the pro perks so hard to get is part of prestiging. I kind of like for it to be a tough decision to do it. I just did prestige lvl 4 last night and while I miss the pro perks, I typically use hardline and sleight of hand, and both of those are pretty easy to get the pro version of.

Heck, after 4 games last night you were up to what, lvl 12? That's pretty zippy leveling.
 

BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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1
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I play mostly core tdm, and the amount of ak74us and famas people in any given game is 50% plus. People on average are always going to gravitate towards the most effective weapons, and when there's such a clear trend it's the very definition of imbalance. It's like WaW with the mp40 all over again. It's not that you can't kill or do well with other weapons, but you're playing with a handicap.

The weapons are cookie cutter as the ARs smgs and snipers are slight variations of each other, yet imbalanced where some are just technically better than others, playstyle be damned. What's there to recommend the ak47 over the commando? Or the rpk at all? lmgs sole advantage in this game is the longer range, yet the rpk is so inaccurate at range you can't seriously use it for that purpose. Why does it even exist then? It honestly seems as if treyarch fundamentally don't get how to play their own game.
 

Hopeless

Golden Member
Oct 29, 2004
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Had some good games last night with pimpjuice.

I'm actually close to getting Ninja pro, which will be my first pro perk, just have to plant the bombs to finish it up. Tried a round of Demolition for the first time before we quit and I got slaughtered. My low KD is probably about to get lower as I'll probably be trying it again to get it up to pro.
 

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
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Got your invite last night Hopeless but I was running with a fully party, we'll meet up soon I'm sure!
 

JoPh

Diamond Member
Aug 8, 2002
7,312
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ok. i used the m14 a little bit last night and i like it. ill prolly use it over the FAL now..

however i dont see a need for the grip. the double shot recoil is not bad at all.

im still need to play with it more..
 
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