Call of Duty: Black Ops

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bucwylde23

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Good gaming with you. Man Deak is a goof & I mean that in a good way. Most of the time I kinda tune out the chit-chat from people & focus on the game, but he had me laughing quite a bit last night.

Yeah I had to mute my mic I was laughing so hard. I can't remember what he said now or what map, but it was at the end when the match just ended. Might have been nuketown or jungle, but I was laughing so hard my side hurt. I think it was something related to Tom Cruise.. haha.
 

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
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Now that I've got a few guns unlocked I started looking at the gun chart.


There are somethings on it I'm not sure about:

Under recoil there are two arrows pointing at a circle with a + in it followed by a number.

Under ammo: Empty & ADD

Under speed I'm guessing that raise & drop is how long it takes to raise it to shoot and drop it to start moving.

The arrows show how much recoil is pulling on your weapon in each direction. Alot of the weapons have say:
...60
40 . 40
....0

The two "40's" cancel each other out, so you'd only notice the 60 going straight. Others are more like:
...80
50 . 20
....0

Well, the 20 isn't enough to cancel out the 50, so you're going to feel 30 "units' of recoil left and 80 up.

The "empty" and "add" is how long it takes to reload the weapon if you're just adding ammo or if it's completely empty. It takes longer when it's empty since you have to cycle the action again.

Yeah I had to mute my mic I was laughing so hard. I can't remember what he said now or what map, but it was at the end when the match just ended. Might have been nuketown or jungle, but I was laughing so hard my side hurt. I think it was something related to Tom Cruise.. haha.

I believe that was "Heeelp I'm on fire! Tom Cruise use your witchcraft and save me!"
 

Hopeless

Golden Member
Oct 29, 2004
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The arrows show how much recoil is pulling on your weapon in each direction. Alot of the weapons have say:

<SNIP>

The "empty" and "add" is how long it takes to reload the weapon if you're just adding ammo or if it's completely empty. It takes longer when it's empty since you have to cycle the action again.

Thanks, but that part of the recoil section I got. What I was talking about is below that kinda looks like &#8594;O&#8592; 1600

But there is a stat for reload. So is it RELOAD + EMPTY or ADD for a total reload time?
 

BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Thanks, but that part of the recoil section I got. What I was talking about is below that kinda looks like &#8594;O&#8592; 1600

But there is a stat for reload. So is it RELOAD + EMPTY or ADD for a total reload time?

That's center speed. The higher the number, the less overall recoil. It's a measure of how fast it can return to center after each shot.

And also, when it's 40 left 40 right, it doesn't mean they cancel out entirely - each shot individually kicks in one direction or the other, so on average they should generally result in a spread around a center point, but it could be randomly offset by a bit just due to probability.

When it's 10 left 60 right you're practically guaranteed to kick overall to the right, but individual shots can kick slightly left.
 

Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
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Some protips for Demolition:

First, don't try to take a bombsite solo. Everyone likes the idea of single handedly taking down thousands of enemy soldiers and blowing their shit up, but this isn't a movie and you aren't an action star. Chances are soon after planting the bomb, overwhelming enemy reinforcements will kill you and easily disarm your plant. Instead, wait for your own reinforcements before planting. Without planting you won't draw any attention to yourself and you should have a teammate within 30 seconds to plant that bomb. Once planted, secure the area and don't die!

Which leads me to tip #2. Use the tactical insertion! You can be your own reinforcements when it comes to keeping a bomb going, getting back in the action within seconds. Always have it planted nearby in a corner or some place not traveled through often. The funny thing about it is few people use the insertion and fewer still even recognize the blinking light for what it is. It isn't unusual for the enemy to run right past it and I'll spawn behind them and kill them. It even beeps!

Round 1 doesn't matter, so don't waste killstreaks on it. Save all those for round 2, which matters much more. With all the saved up killstreaks you can be better prepared to assault or defend the bombsites for a clean round 2 win, meaning either victory or a 2nd chance at victory. You don't necessarily need to save anything for round 3 unless you lost round 1 and you are pretty sure you will win round 2, then you might save something to help ensure round 3 early on. Only once has this been an issue for me, and it was round 2 on Nuketown. I had so many care packages and SAM packages saved up after round 1(30/9) that I couldn't use them all before round 2 ended. I even had a gunship I couldn't launch because the airspace was full

Killstreaks that are effective in demolition might be different than ones used in other game modes. Mortar team, for instance, is very effective. Care package is very helpful, especially if you have hardline pro, but napalm strike can be extremely useful in most demolition maps too. SAM sites are a must! Because you have static respawns, it is a lot less likely that they will be destroyed and choppers are a lot more of a problem in demolition because they are better placed for assault and defense. SAMs also shoot down care packages which can limit what your enemy can do to you, a huge plus.
 

velillen

Platinum Member
Jul 12, 2006
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First, don't try to take a bombsite solo. Everyone likes the idea of single handedly taking down thousands of enemy soldiers and blowing their shit up, but this isn't a movie and you aren't an action star. Chances are soon after planting the bomb, overwhelming enemy reinforcements will kill you and easily disarm your plant. Instead, wait for your own reinforcements before planting. Without planting you won't draw any attention to yourself and you should have a teammate within 30 seconds to plant that bomb. Once planted, secure the area and don't die!

yes and no. I both secured and destroyed a bombsite solo quite a few times. It is actually doable if the other site has been planted and you are somewhat good. Also it can be beneficial if one site is planted to plant the other even if you know you cant hold it. it means a few of the other team will most likely head towards your bombsite relieving a bit of pressure on the target site. Also i have found it usually means only a few guys come which if you are in a good spot can easily be picked off and you hold it till it blows.

Even if i see most of my team heading for bomb B and im near A i will go plant A. its a distraction and can leave fewer enemies for my teammates to have to deal with. You can definitely use solo planting as a tactic!

I even had a gunship I couldn't launch because the airspace was full

I hate that. Seems to happen a lot as teammates throw up their killstreaks as games get closer to the end. Ive ended quite a few games with either just barely getting to call in, or not being able to call in my chopper.


Another tip...Motion Sensor. Its actually quite good for demolition. Allows you to set it up close to a bombsite or route you know people will take and you can hid behind a wall or where they cant see you. Once you see them on the map pop out for the kill. Works better than sitting exposed behind cover where they can see you. Of course works best if you have ghost pro. Especially if you plant a bomb. Go hid and if the enemy doesnt see you they usually go right in for the defuse. Just wait (but not to long) then pop out and kill them as they are trying to defuse.
 
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What is the deal with the occasional stuck in "waiting for other players" during the loading screen bit?

I have to go to the XMB and quit CODBO but then it just resets my PS3.

So very annoying!
 

Bman123

Diamond Member
Nov 16, 2008
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I am so tired of black ops already, I do good almost every game it's just the initial wow factor wore off alot faster then I expected it too. I'm ready to sell the damn xbox and get out of gaming for a while.

When I play TD I get stuck on shitty teams so I play alot of HC F4A and honestly HC F4A is not that fun but at least in that game mode if I get my ass blown out it is really my fault that I lose.

I've got multiple games on my file share where I have went 25-5 or higher kills and my team still lost the game and honestly that makes me mad enough to sell my xbox
 

jman19

Lifer
Nov 3, 2000
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What is the deal with the occasional stuck in "waiting for other players" during the loading screen bit?

I have to go to the XMB and quit CODBO but then it just resets my PS3.

So very annoying!

The quality of the game, at least for the PS3, is piss poor (at least for the moment). Very frustrating - especially since I enjoy playing the game when I can actually get through a match!
 

gorcorps

aka Brandon
Jul 18, 2004
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The quality of the game, at least for the PS3, is piss poor (at least for the moment). Very frustrating - especially since I enjoy playing the game when I can actually get through a match!

This is exactly how I felt with battlefield 2 on the PC. So riddled with bugs I couldn't play more than 30-45 minutes without a crash, but it was a blast when it was working. It's sad that such fun games get polished so little anymore.
 

gorcorps

aka Brandon
Jul 18, 2004
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I am so tired of black ops already, I do good almost every game it's just the initial wow factor wore off alot faster then I expected it too. I'm ready to sell the damn xbox and get out of gaming for a while.

When I play TD I get stuck on shitty teams so I play alot of HC F4A and honestly HC F4A is not that fun but at least in that game mode if I get my ass blown out it is really my fault that I lose.

I've got multiple games on my file share where I have went 25-5 or higher kills and my team still lost the game and honestly that makes me mad enough to sell my xbox

Yeah... sounds like you should get out of gaming for a while. Oh, and probably find some professional help. If losing an imaginary battle makes you so mad that you want to sell your xbox, then you seriously need help.
 

velillen

Platinum Member
Jul 12, 2006
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Well 1 hour of "playing" resulted in 1 completed game. Pathetic. Nothing like joining a game, playing for 2 minutes and "losing connection to host". Probably tried 15 games and had every single one end this way. Just cant stand this type of online gameplay when i know xbox pople are having no issues at all (in comparison to this). I thought morning games where maybe 1 in 5 games ended that way were bad.

Guess its finally time to finish Red Dead Redemption and maybe pickup GT5 till the next patch

and yes its my personal rant so most of you can ignore this post
 
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JoPh

Diamond Member
Aug 8, 2002
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its becoming a real pain the the ass on the ps3 getting in games with friends. i alwasy get game lobby closed or game lobby no longer in session.

even though im talking to them on the phone and it says they are waiting in lobby.. then we both turn off the ps3 and restart it that works like 80&#37; of the time.


i dont know what the issue is but its annoying.. it gotten to the point where we dont even play together now.

i did play a complete game where the host changed about 10 times.

makes me with i did buy on xbox... oh well. hopefully something comes soon..


oh on a positive note i love the commando with irons now.. fav thing in the game right now.
ive kinda given up on the m14/fal for now.. i still want to use it but im not getting postive games out of it..
 
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RavenSEAL

Diamond Member
Jan 4, 2010
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its becoming a real pain the the ass on the ps3 getting in games with friends. i alwasy get game lobby closed or game lobby no longer in session.

even though im talking to them on the phone and it says they are waiting in lobby.. then we both turn off the ps3 and restart it that works like 80% of the time.


i dont know what the issue is but its annoying.. it gotten to the point where we dont even play together now.

i did play a complete game where the host changed about 10 times.

makes me with i did buy on xbox... oh well. hopefully something comes soon..


oh on a positive note i love the commando with irons now.. fav thing in the game right now.
ive kinda given up on the m14/fal for now.. i still want to use it but im not getting postive games out of it..
Yea, i've decided to take a break too. I'm even considering selling my copy of the game, it's pretty pathetic.
 

Dangerer

Golden Member
Mar 15, 2005
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Ghost Pro is ridiculous... I've had ghost equiped since level 1 and have NEVER SEEN A SINGLE SENTRY GUN. I also use sentry as one of my killstreaks and every single time I use it, either my teammates take it or the other team straight up ignores it. I've been playing FFA for the past few hours and NOBODY tries to steal my sentry crate.
 

cyphilis

Senior member
May 7, 2008
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Ghost Pro is ridiculous... I've had ghost equiped since level 1 and have NEVER SEEN A SINGLE SENTRY GUN. I also use sentry as one of my killstreaks and every single time I use it, either my teammates take it or the other team straight up ignores it. I've been playing FFA for the past few hours and NOBODY tries to steal my sentry crate.

Give up on it,. thats what I did. I gave up on it, and the very next game I jumped in, there was a sentry gun just sitting there ready to be plucked. Luckily I had left 1 setup with Ghost on it. Ghost pro is awesome though, I love it!! Especially when my team mates are crying because a huey is demolishing them. I stand out in the open and shoot it down.
 

dougp

Diamond Member
May 3, 2002
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Looks like the new title update is going to disable HL Pro rerolls for SAM & Sentry guns ... Severely limits how useful it is.
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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I have never used HL, so it doesn't effect me. Had a game last night where I got 6 attack helicopters. Forgot to switch to better kill streaks and stole 2 from enemy care packages.
 

digiram

Diamond Member
Apr 17, 2004
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I have never used HL, so it doesn't effect me. Had a game last night where I got 6 attack helicopters. Forgot to switch to better kill streaks and stole 2 from enemy care packages.


6 of the most useless killstreak in the game that only takes up airspace. I tell everyone on my squad to disable that crap and use napalm or something else instead. Sucks to have a huey waiting and that thing is in the air doing nothing.
 

JoPh

Diamond Member
Aug 8, 2002
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Give up on it,. thats what I did. I gave up on it, and the very next game I jumped in, there was a sentry gun just sitting there ready to be plucked. Luckily I had left 1 setup with Ghost on it. Ghost pro is awesome though, I love it!! Especially when my team mates are crying because a huey is demolishing them. I stand out in the open and shoot it down.

yeah.. the one time i ran into a sentry i thought i had ghost on. but i didnt..

that was the only time i ran into sentry in 26hrs of playing.
 
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