Call of Duty: Black Ops

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Kabob

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They're easy to avoid. We were playing Launch yesterday with Kabobs crew and when dogs were called we just took defensive positions and mowed them down. I don't think more than 2-4 people even died.

Yeah, that was the only good Chopper Gunner I had and I called it right after he called the dogs and when my streak ended I was still alive (yay!)
 

JoPh

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Aug 8, 2002
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+100 for the FFA sentry gun suggestions.. Very easy..

Finally GHOST PRO!
 

Kabob

Lifer
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+100 for the FFA sentry gun suggestions.. Very easy..

Finally GHOST PRO!

Glad I could help

BTW...a few of us just threw CoD 4 into the tray and played a few games...wow that game is still phenominal.
 

BD2003

Lifer
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So finally got the 3d plasma hooked up, and gave black ops a whirl in 3d mode. Its quite impressive. The 3d effect is very well used - rather than have everything consantly popping out at you, it's more of a sense of depth into the screen. Except for your gun, especially when looking down the sights - that really pops out at you and is a really cool effect. Especially with the red dot, you can see how the dot is projected out in front of you, and you can really see the depth of the tube of the sight itself.

Of course, there are many caveats. The most obvious is the performance. Gone is the silky smooth 60fps, traded in for an unlocked frame rate which generally hovers around 30, with the occasional dip above or below. It still looks great as 30fps is a pretty standard frame rate, but it's not typical call of duty smooth. The resolution may also be cut as well, hard to tell. It's a pretty tough tradeoff to make as the 3d really adds to the experience in a huge way. The 360 and ps3 just aren't up to the task.

And as you play, you really see what at afterthought 3d is in this game. A few things stick out. While the red dot/reflex is tuned well for 3d, the acog and iron sights are not. There's a very obvious problem here - looking down a sight IRL you'd have one eye closed - you wouldn't even be able to look down a sight with both eyes at the same time at all in most cases. So you get kind of a double image on the sight. The acog is really tough as the dot of the sight feels very close. Some iron sights are good, some bad. The red dot feels perfect as the dot feels in the distance, but it doesn't seem as if they even tried to find a solution for any other sight.

For the chopper in campaign, the crosshairs were really close and made it very hard to aim as well.

And there's some really obvious things, like the fact that depth of field blurring is still enabled in 3d mode. Why? DoF is a camera trick to simulate depth, which simply isn' needed and is counter productive for stereoscopic 3d, not to mention it's eating up scarce system resources.

So it's pretty clear they really just threw this on at the last minute. Which is fine, few can take advantage of it and it's relatively easy to implement on a technical level. But more than anything else it's being held back by the console. I know there's a lot of naysayers out there on 3d, but this is the future here. You'll always be able to opt out, but when it's done right, trust me, you won't want to. 3d tvs at the moment are nothing more than high end 2d tvs, and it won't be long before it filters down to the mainstream and a ton of people have them. The missing piece of the puzzle here is the next gen of consoles. A next gen CoD with ground up stereo 3d is going to blow peoples minds.

Can't wait.
 

JoPh

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Glad I could help

BTW...a few of us just threw CoD 4 into the tray and played a few games...wow that game is still phenominal.

damn. let me know about COD4 of MW2.. I still have those on 360
 

SunnyD

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I've also determined that Demolition and Sabotage modes suck. In principle, they're really fun... but in actual implementation, the entire name of the game is to get behind the other team's spawn and camp it.

And another day goes by where 80% of my deaths are as soon as I spawn.
 

JoPh

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had my best non assisted killstreak today.. i used spy plane, counter spy plane. care package gave me another spy plane

23 kills in a row on firing squad. just kept circling the board. changed weapons 4 times i think.
 

basslover1

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I've also determined that Demolition and Sabotage modes suck. In principle, they're really fun... but in actual implementation, the entire name of the game is to get behind the other team's spawn and camp it.

And another day goes by where 80% of my deaths are as soon as I spawn.

Yep, pretty much. Combine that with people that only play it like tdm, and at times it can really really suck.

The other day I got stuck on a team that just sucked, my self included, and the other team just kept pushing us further and further back. Eventually it got so bad, you would get shot about 4 seconds after spawning.
 

JoPh

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Yep, pretty much. Combine that with people that only play it like tdm, and at times it can really really suck.

The other day I got stuck on a team that just sucked, my self included, and the other team just kept pushing us further and further back. Eventually it got so bad, you would get shot about 4 seconds after spawning.

those are the games you just have to know its time to quit and find something better.
 

Bman123

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As much as I like this game I am really thinking about going back to MW2. The lag on PS3 is friggin terrible, I remember playing MW2 lag free almost everygame on PS3, I dont know why black ops is so bad
 

Bman123

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All of my old friends are still playing MW2 on PS3, they said they al bought black ops and went right back to mw2 and honestly I can't blame them. Black ops on 360 is awesome, hardly ever any lag but at the same time you get what you pay for with xbox live vs psn.

Probably gonna trade black ops on craigslist for MW2, gta 4 and $20 cash LOL
 

fbrdphreak

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So, I helped a friend get Ghost Pro in an FFA game and we had a 7 of the 8 people in the game as friends. Then we decided to have everyone make a custom class with an Olympia. It was SO much fun, but after one game we decided we should move to a private match so we don't destroy our kill/win ratios.

It was fantastic. As the host I can create a specific class that everyone has to use, I can make it so that dying removes points, etc. I made one class that was Olympia/Ballistic Knife, Lightweight, SoH, and Marathon and we went to town. On top of that we had more guys join so we had 10-11 people playing FFA that style.

It was absolute win, we'll be doing it again.
That was truly epic. We MUST do that again.
 

jman19

Lifer
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Somehow the latest patch seems to have made the connection issues even worse... :hmm:
 

basslover1

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Somehow the latest patch seems to have made the connection issues even worse... :hmm:

Not sure why, but for me on the 360 it's been a lag fest the last few days. Prior to that, it's been absolutely perfect. I'm hoping it's a coincidence and they didn't screw something up.
 

Bman123

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I got rid of my copy today, that game is just flat out terrible on PS3, the graphics are awful, the lag is too bad to even enjoy the game. I am so glad I only paid $13 for that game. I traded for MW2, gta 4 and $30 cash today
I hate to go back to MW2 but this game is disgusting on PS3
 

jman19

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I got rid of my copy today, that game is just flat out terrible on PS3, the graphics are awful, the lag is too bad to even enjoy the game. I am so glad I only paid $13 for that game. I traded for MW2, gta 4 and $30 cash today
I hate to go back to MW2 but this game is disgusting on PS3

It really is disgraceful that treyarch did such a piss poor job on the PS3 version of the game. Not sure exactly how the performance is on the 360, but the amount of dropped games and system lock ups is revolting. Got booted from 3 games in a row today; on the fourth, my system locked up as I was calling in a chopper gunner
 

RavenSEAL

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Thinking about selling my PS3 copy as well, my PC could use a nice looking case and i can't stand that game anymore.

Looks enough of a good excuse to grab BC2:V on PC as well since i have a better GPU now.
 
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bowdenball

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It really is disgraceful that treyarch did such a piss poor job on the PS3 version of the game. Not sure exactly how the performance is on the 360, but the amount of dropped games and system lock ups is revolting. Got booted from 3 games in a row today; on the fourth, my system locked up as I was calling in a chopper gunner

I haven't noticed any dropped games or system lock ups. I wish I could remember which map seemed to stutter in heavy action in MP but thats the only problem i've noticed performance wise. Hate to hear the problems on the PS3 version.
 

Bman123

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I wish I had the same experience as you man, if that was the case for me I would of kept my copy. I hated to trade it off today but it's really no fun playing a game that lags all the time and constantly kicks you out of the game. I said stuff about it online and everyone is like you got a walmart connection ha ha ha but i have 7mbps so my end isnt the problem at all.

You guys have no clue how pissed I am about this whole ordeal. I had a 360 with 20gb hard drive and black ops last week. My daughter really wanted LBP and MNR games and I can't afford to have both systems. I sold my 360 and BO for $225 and came out of pocket for the PS3 bundle with LBP and MNr with a $50 GC. I picked up BO for only $13 using that GC so that was cool.

Come to find out BO is ass on PS3, I prestiged like 3 times on BO for the 360, I didnt even make it past level 25 on PS3 before I got rid of it. I am a little mad about the whole situation, I'm sure you guys can't really blame either with all the shit I went thru to experience this
 

bowdenball

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I wish I had the same experience as you man, if that was the case for me I would of kept my copy. I hated to trade it off today but it's really no fun playing a game that lags all the time and constantly kicks you out of the game. I said stuff about it online and everyone is like you got a walmart connection ha ha ha but i have 7mbps so my end isnt the problem at all.

You guys have no clue how pissed I am about this whole ordeal. I had a 360 with 20gb hard drive and black ops last week. My daughter really wanted LBP and MNR games and I can't afford to have both systems. I sold my 360 and BO for $225 and came out of pocket for the PS3 bundle with LBP and MNr with a $50 GC. I picked up BO for only $13 using that GC so that was cool.

Come to find out BO is ass on PS3, I prestiged like 3 times on BO for the 360, I didnt even make it past level 25 on PS3 before I got rid of it. I am a little mad about the whole situation, I'm sure you guys can't really blame either with all the shit I went thru to experience this


Don't blame you at all. If not for my daughter loving the games on the 360, I'd have the PS3! I can't really justify having both. I can understand your frustration and know that I'd feel the same way.
 

Kabob

Lifer
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Sorry to hear about you PS3 guy's woes, that sucks. As for going back to MW2, look at the franchise's history.

CoD 4 = Epic. Treyarch makes W@W and most of my friends play less than 2 weeks before going back to CoD 4.

MW2 = Great. Treyarch follows with Black Ops and now a month later people are going back to MW2 (I've got friends on the 360 who are just fed up with the lag, hit detection, and less enjoyable gameplay).
 

Kev

Lifer
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New funny thing to do: Get the rc-xd killstreak, and pick some shmuck to chase around with it. Don't actually set it off, just chase them around until it explodes on it's own. It's hilarious watching people freak out while trying to run away. And if they shoot you, you get the kill anyway.
 
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