Call of Duty: Black Ops

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BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Not to sound like an asshole BD, because we've clearly never played together, but I'm rarely someone you would call a hoverer. I generally have a 2:1 if not 4:1 ratio in games, with 4-6 captures and 8-10 defends - but what happens is I was not getting cover in an attempt to capture the B site - why would I keep running back if no one will cover me? So I did the logical thing, I provided cover for the few that were attempting to cap it. Unfortunately, our other players loved feeding the opposing team kills for RC-XDs and mortar teams.

I'm not really trying to call anyone out specifically. I mean you said it, why would you run out because no one will cover you? You're right, probably no one will. That's the overall problem here. The game just isn't designed to encourage team play, to encourage personal sacrifice for team gain.

I could think of a ton of ways they could fix this, but they've hardly deviated from the same broken formula for 4 games now, I can't see it changing anytime soon.
 

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
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Not to sound like an asshole BD, because we've clearly never played together, but I'm rarely someone you would call a hoverer. I generally have a 2:1 if not 4:1 ratio in games, with 4-6 captures and 8-10 defends - but what happens is I was not getting cover in an attempt to capture the B site - why would I keep running back if no one will cover me? So I did the logical thing, I provided cover for the few that were attempting to cap it. Unfortunately, our other players loved feeding the opposing team kills for RC-XDs and mortar teams.

Pfft, non-capping noob, sell your Xbox and give me your NookColor for good measure. :wub:
 

dougp

Diamond Member
May 3, 2002
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Pfft, non-capping noob, sell your Xbox and give me your NookColor for good measure. :wub:

How about I n00b tube you as you capture and then three-round burst you in the nuts for good measure? :awe:
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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I'm not really trying to call anyone out specifically. I mean you said it, why would you run out because no one will cover you? You're right, probably no one will. That's the overall problem here. The game just isn't designed to encourage team play, to encourage personal sacrifice for team gain.

I could think of a ton of ways they could fix this, but they've hardly deviated from the same broken formula for 4 games now, I can't see it changing anytime soon.

I fail to see how him attempting to cover his team while they capture (and fail as he said) a point selfish or camping? The entire game was based upon which team holds the points for the longest amount of time. Disallowing the opposing team to capture a point (and gain points) is an extremely valid strategy. Is guarding your flag in CTF or your bomb sites in Demolition / S&D camping as well? Defense is what wins game. I've lost plenty of games where teammates and myself were all extremely positive (talking about 5:1 k/d) and we lost because nobody played defense. The other team constantly had someone capping points and inched ahead in points.
 

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
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seemed to always give you a run for your money in MW2

-black

I thought you were selling your 360?

How about I n00b tube you as you capture and then three-round burst you in the nuts for good measure? :awe:

What nuts?

I fail to see how him attempting to cover his team while they capture (and fail as he said) a point selfish or camping? The entire game was based upon which team holds the points for the longest amount of time. Disallowing the opposing team to capture a point (and gain points) is an extremely valid strategy. Is guarding your flag in CTF or your bomb sites in Demolition / S&D camping as well? Defense is what wins game. I've lost plenty of games where teammates and myself were all extremely positive (talking about 5:1 k/d) and we lost because nobody played defense. The other team constantly had someone capping points and inched ahead in points.

Agreed, I've saved teammates who were capping a point by being the lookout so many times I cannot count. It's a team effort.
 

BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Not saying it ain't valid, but staring at an uncapped point to a sniper rifle hardly seems like the best strategy. Id hardly call it defense if your team doesnt even hold the damn point. You said it yourself - in your game, the other team had someone else constantly capping, and in my experience, that's the team that usually wins. Defense is important but being aggressive and active in capturing and securing a solid lead first is far more important. I'd never be able to stare at an uncapped point and just cover it.
 

dougp

Diamond Member
May 3, 2002
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Not saying it ain't valid, but staring at an uncapped point to a sniper rifle hardly seems like the best strategy. Id hardly call it defense if your team doesnt even hold the damn point. You said it yourself - in your game, the other team had someone else constantly capping, and in my experience, that's the team that usually wins. Defense is important but being aggressive and active in capturing and securing a solid lead first is far more important. I'd never be able to stare at an uncapped point and just cover it.

My class setup that game?

AWP + ACOG
Python + Speed Loader
Symtex
Flashbang
Motion Sensor
Lightweight Pro
Sleight of Hand Pro
Marathon Pro

Hardly a camping setup, but it gave me the best way to defend that point from a distance since we had the A side and they had C, which has a lot more vantage points.

Regardless, we should all stop arguing about it because I doubt any of us will convince the other(s).
 

cyphilis

Senior member
May 7, 2008
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Marathon pro is what Im working on getting now. I just don't play capture the flag that much, and when I do I get stuck on a dumb team that thinks they are supposed to setup tents around our flag.
 

JoPh

Diamond Member
Aug 8, 2002
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all you xbox hacks make me laugh with the skill-less plans. come play on the ps3 and see some skill..

i laugh. noobs.
 

dougp

Diamond Member
May 3, 2002
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all you xbox hacks make me laugh with the skill-less plans. come play on the ps3 and see some skill..

i laugh. noobs.

I see a XBL tag in your sig, come join us JoPh - I'll show you some skill
 

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
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cuase they are all mlg pros. i needed a challenge.

I have yet to meet an MLG guy who wasn't an ass. Seriously, every single one I've played who had a mic has made themselves out to be some sort of gaming god or whatever. Heck, I had one guy who, because I destroyed him, messaged me and said he was going to rape my mother and kill her.

Classy bunch of fellows...

Seriously, the day I meet one who's even halfway normal I'll stop stereotyping them, it's just yet to happen.

You guys should add me... om3gawave is my gamertag. I'm fucking good.

Kabob, I'm looking at you

OK, so you were om3gawave? See, that makes more sense. I had no clue who Saint Nick was, guess you had the mods change your tag?

And I don't care if you're good or not, since when does being good have anything to do with being fun to game with? I play with plenty of guys who can barely swing a 0.5 KDR and I play with some (Buc) who are getting eeriely close to 3:1 KDR's.

Send me another FR.
 

digiram

Diamond Member
Apr 17, 2004
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I play almost every day up to about two weeks ago. I recently moved and despite having internet, have no way to get it to my living room atm. I am not paying $100 for a wireless adapter, that is for sure. Maybe I'll pick up a 100ft cable from monoprice.

You might wanna pick up one of those dd-wrt routers and use it as a wifi bridge. They can be had for like 20.00 bucks.
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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You might wanna pick up one of those dd-wrt routers and use it as a wifi bridge. They can be had for like 20.00 bucks.

I was thinking about it, but a 100ft Cat 6 cable costs like $10. I will probably just switch over to wireless when I end up getting a Slim model.
 

JoPh

Diamond Member
Aug 8, 2002
7,312
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I have yet to meet an MLG guy who wasn't an ass. Seriously, every single one I've played who had a mic has made themselves out to be some sort of gaming god or whatever. Heck, I had one guy who, because I destroyed him, messaged me and said he was going to rape my mother and kill her.

Classy bunch of fellows...

Seriously, the day I meet one who's even halfway normal I'll stop stereotyping them, it's just yet to happen.



OK, so you were om3gawave? See, that makes more sense. I had no clue who Saint Nick was, guess you had the mods change your tag?

And I don't care if you're good or not, since when does being good have anything to do with being fun to game with? I play with plenty of guys who can barely swing a 0.5 KDR and I play with some (Buc) who are getting eeriely close to 3:1 KDR's.

Send me another FR.

Yeah the mlg people are asses
 

Queasy

Moderator<br>Console Gaming
Aug 24, 2001
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I have yet to meet an MLG guy who wasn't an ass. Seriously, every single one I've played who had a mic has made themselves out to be some sort of gaming god or whatever. Heck, I had one guy who, because I destroyed him, messaged me and said he was going to rape my mother and kill her.

Classy bunch of fellows...

Seriously, the day I meet one who's even halfway normal I'll stop stereotyping them, it's just yet to happen.

Damn. I hope you reported him.
 
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