Calling all Honda/Acura fanboys!

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: mizzouXC
Screw the honda rice burners... Get a car that drinks german beer. 220 HP out of a 1.8T Audi Motor Group engine....mmm...smokin rice-burners in 2nd gear....

And Honda gets 195 out of a NA 1.8. What's your point? Turbos can make anyone fly.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: mizzouXC
Screw the honda rice burners... Get a car that drinks german beer. 220 HP out of a 1.8T Audi Motor Group engine....mmm...smokin rice-burners in 2nd gear....

And Honda gets 195 out of a NA 1.8. What's your point? Turbos can make anyone fly.

He's a VW fan - he has no point.

Go stretch your tires some more, mizzou.

- M4H

 

[PeeluckyDuckee]

Add me to the list, first time car owner....

2001 Honda Prelude SE
Silver in color, they're prolly the most common color for Preludes. Dime a dozen. But Preludes in our city are a bit of a rare appearance. Stop-go performance is lacking, but once the engine starts revving up high in 3 gear or higher you can start to feel the power. It's even got decent size trunk space, which is a plus.

 

[UTmtnbiker]

Thanks. Fun car to drive. Just got it back from the shop today for the annoying squeak from hell. Supposedly they fixed it and I didn't hear anything coming home but we'll see tomorrow.

C&D can't be wrong...10 best!

q]Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: UTmtnbiker
Count me in as a fanboi!

2004 Acura TSX

Nice![/quote]

 

[OS]

Spoon prepped JDM Accord Type-R scores class victory in 25 hours of Thunderhill :Q

Other cars it beat includes RX7, BMW 325/328/M3, Porsche 924/944.

Go FWD! :Q

 

[Sunny129]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: mizzouXC
Screw the honda rice burners... Get a car that drinks german beer. 220 HP out of a 1.8T Audi Motor Group engine....mmm...smokin rice-burners in 2nd gear....

And Honda gets 195 out of a NA 1.8. What's your point? Turbos can make anyone fly.

the funny thing is that the turbo only puts out 25 more bhp than the N/A honda engine. it always seems like people either take one side or the other. i love my german auto, but japanese cars are cool in their own way. i'd love to have something liek a civic type R hatch to play with...like the ones out of gran turismo 3 a-spec. they're so clean and not riced out. to me that's just as beautiful as an M3, just in light of performance and aesthetics.

 

[SynthesisI]

1981 Honda lawnmower (silver body, red engine) that is as old as I am and still running nearly flawlessly.

I love Nissan (and my loyalty actually belongs to Volkswagen- see sig), but I'll stick to this thread because Nissan is owned by a French company.

 

[mizzouXC]

Honda's are built cheaply also. When honda sells their cars with laser cut keys and digital security system built by the same company that mercedes uses, come talk to me. There is NO way you get 195 out of a flimsy honda motor.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: mizzouXC
Honda's are built cheaply also. When honda sells their cars with laser cut keys and digital security system built by the same company that mercedes uses, come talk to me. There is NO way you get 195 out of a flimsy honda motor.

Right ...

... google "Honda B18C5" and let me know what shows up, now get your trolling ass the hell out of my Honda thread. I'm not even going to bother to respond to the rest of your crap. Go back to VWV.

- M4H

 

[mizzouXC]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: mizzouXC Screw the honda rice burners... Get a car that drinks german beer. 220 HP out of a 1.8T Audi Motor Group engine....mmm...smokin rice-burners in 2nd gear....

And Honda gets 195 out of a NA 1.8. What's your point? Turbos can make anyone fly.

He's a VW fan - he has no point. Go stretch your tires some more, mizzou. - M4H

Remember, bolting that aluminum fin to your trunk adds like 25 HP, and those cool looking "euro" lights add another 10 HP. I want to see dyno tests on your 1.8 NA motor. How much torque, and what is the curve like. Any 1.8T stock puts out 180 HP and 196 ft/lb of torque from 1900-5000 rpm. Your honda may make 195 HP but at how many rpm, and what is the torque curve like. That is where you get your pickup..not from adding cool lights to your car.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: mizzouXC

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: mizzouXC Screw the honda rice burners... Get a car that drinks german beer. 220 HP out of a 1.8T Audi Motor Group engine....mmm...smokin rice-burners in 2nd gear....

And Honda gets 195 out of a NA 1.8. What's your point? Turbos can make anyone fly.

He's a VW fan - he has no point. Go stretch your tires some more, mizzou. - M4H

Remember, bolting that aluminum fin to your trunk adds like 25 HP, and those cool looking "euro" lights add another 10 HP. I want to see dyno tests on your 1.8 NA motor. How much torque, and what is the curve like. Any 1.8T stock puts out 180 HP and 196 ft/lb of torque from 1900-5000 rpm. Your honda may make 195 HP but at how many rpm, and what is the torque curve like. That is where you get your pickup..not from adding cool lights to your car.

Text

- M4H

 

[mizzouXC]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: mizzouXC Honda's are built cheaply also. When honda sells their cars with laser cut keys and digital security system built by the same company that mercedes uses, come talk to me. There is NO way you get 195 out of a flimsy honda motor.

Right ...

... google "Honda B18C5" and let me know what shows up, now get your trolling ass the hell out of my Honda thread. I'm not even going to bother to respond to the rest of your crap. Go back to VWV. - M4H

It's still a "honda" Need I say more? You won't respond to my "crap" because that is exactly what your car is. I googled honda b18c5 and I see a bunch of wasted money on a cheaply built car. And your trolling as can stay poor. Once you've had a German car, you'll never turn back to your rice burner. Oh, and MAKE ME get out of your thread. You're car takes after you, crap...

 

[mizzouXC]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: mizzouXC

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: mizzouXC Screw the honda rice burners... Get a car that drinks german beer. 220 HP out of a 1.8T Audi Motor Group engine....mmm...smokin rice-burners in 2nd gear....

And Honda gets 195 out of a NA 1.8. What's your point? Turbos can make anyone fly.

He's a VW fan - he has no point. Go stretch your tires some more, mizzou. - M4H

Remember, bolting that aluminum fin to your trunk adds like 25 HP, and those cool looking "euro" lights add another 10 HP. I want to see dyno tests on your 1.8 NA motor. How much torque, and what is the curve like. Any 1.8T stock puts out 180 HP and 196 ft/lb of torque from 1900-5000 rpm. Your honda may make 195 HP but at how many rpm, and what is the torque curve like. That is where you get your pickup..not from adding cool lights to your car.

Text - M4H

That's a pretty piss poor dyno test. you have to go over 8k to get any reasonable results.. --> from a 1.8T Audi motor text Here's the whole review whole review

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: mizzouXC

Remember, bolting that aluminum fin to your trunk adds like 25 HP, and those cool looking "euro" lights add another 10 HP. I want to see dyno tests on your 1.8 NA motor. How much torque, and what is the curve like. Any 1.8T stock puts out 180 HP and 196 ft/lb of torque from 1900-5000 rpm. Your honda may make 195 HP but at how many rpm, and what is the torque curve like. That is where you get your pickup..not from adding cool lights to your car.

B18C5 dynos

H22A dynos

btw, its not my fault Audi needs all that torque to lug around its bloated cars. Hmm, so a '01 A4 1.8 weighs 200lbs more then my Accord yet is 10 inches shorter. And that's the FWD model. And would you look at that, the Quattro model is another 300 lbs heavier.

 

[mizzouXC]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: mizzouXC Remember, bolting that aluminum fin to your trunk adds like 25 HP, and those cool looking "euro" lights add another 10 HP. I want to see dyno tests on your 1.8 NA motor. How much torque, and what is the curve like. Any 1.8T stock puts out 180 HP and 196 ft/lb of torque from 1900-5000 rpm. Your honda may make 195 HP but at how many rpm, and what is the torque curve like. That is where you get your pickup..not from adding cool lights to your car.

B18C5 dynos H22A dynos btw, its not my fault Audi needs all that torque to lug around its bloated cars. Hmm, so a '01 A4 1.8 weighs 200lbs more then my Accord yet is 10 inches shorter. And that's the FWD model. And would you look at that, the Quattro model is another 300 lbs heavier.

haha it's called "quality" The doors of an audi and VW close solidly and do not feel like they're about to crumple. Just because it takes your motor turning at 8k rpm to perform the same as a 3.5k AMG motor, must mean something. It's like rating an amplifier. It may be able to push 200 watts, but not at the whole frequency range. Sad, just sad, you're losing a battle and you know it-- your car is puny and your torque curve isn't flat. Get over it, go visit your German dealership and give up.. No modification can make your car faster than a german car.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: mizzouXC
It's still a "honda" Need I say more?

It's called "justifying your standpoint" - please try it sometime.

You won't respond to my "crap" because that is exactly what your car is.

JD Power & Assoc Consumer Satisfaction Survey for Germany in 2002
Finishing at or below industry average in alphabetical order are ... and Volkswagen.

I googled honda b18c5 and I see a bunch of wasted money on a cheaply built car.

Which is putting down about 180hp to the wheels, with no boltons or FI.

And your trolling as can stay poor.

Let's see, I spent less on my car than you did, therefore I have more money left. But somehow I am poorer? Your logic is flawed, young Padawan.

Once you've had a German car, you'll never turn back to your rice burner.

BMW yes, VW no.

Oh, and MAKE ME get out of your thread. You're car takes after you, crap...

Or what? You'll continue to spout misinformation? Oh no, not that. Please, don't continue making yourself appear even dumber. It would just break my little heart. :brokenheart:

- M4H

 

[mizzouXC]

http://www.vwfixx.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14050 350 hp, 1.8t that's all I have to say... well and it's a pretty fvcking flat curve. You're a disgrace to human kind.

 

[mizzouXC]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: mizzouXC It's still a "honda" Need I say more?

It's called "justifying your standpoint" - please try it sometime.

You won't respond to my "crap" because that is exactly what your car is.

JD Power & Assoc Consumer Satisfaction Survey for Germany in 2002 Finishing at or below industry average in alphabetical order are ... and Volkswagen.

I googled honda b18c5 and I see a bunch of wasted money on a cheaply built car.

Which is putting down about 180hp to the wheels, with no boltons or FI.

And your trolling as can stay poor.

Let's see, I spent less on my car than you did, therefore I have more money left. But somehow I am poorer? Your logic is flawed, young Padawan.

Once you've had a German car, you'll never turn back to your rice burner.

BMW yes, VW no.

Oh, and MAKE ME get out of your thread. You're car takes after you, crap...

Or what? You'll continue to spout misinformation? Oh no, not that. Please, don't continue making yourself appear even dumber. It would just break my little heart. :brokenheart: - M4H

Mis information is letting some guy think your car can do 195 bhp (only you leave out the part that it's at over 7.5k rpm. How many people take their car to 7.5k rpm and use a JD Power rating to see how "reliable" their car is?? A honda's motor is weaker than any german motor. Please, look at that chart and see at less than 4k rpm, a german engine is doing more than your honda engine at 6.5k. Pull your head out and get over it.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: mizzouXC
That's a pretty piss poor dyno test. you have to go over 8k to get any reasonable results.. --> from a 1.8T Audi motor text Here's the whole review

That dyno goes up to a staggering 6.7K rpm.

Pot, kettle, black.

haha it's called "quality" The doors of an audi and VW close solidly and do not feel like they're about to crumple. Just because it takes your motor turning at 8k rpm to perform the same as a 3.5k AMG motor, must mean something. It's like rating an amplifier. It may be able to push 200 watts, but not at the whole frequency range. Sad, just sad, you're losing a battle and you know it-- your car is puny and your torque curve isn't flat. Get over it, go visit your German dealership and give up.. No modification can make your car faster than a german car.

Current stats
Fastest Honda = Jason Hunt's CRX = 9.87@151mph
Fastest VW = Kevin Black's Scirocco "Orange Crush" = 9.95@140.9mph
You = Owned

http://www.vwfixx.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14050350 hp, 1.8t that's all I have to say...

2.1L N/A Honda - 10.59@127mph

- M4H

 

[Imported]

Any facts to back up that a Honda motor is weaker then a German motor? I think my local Honda dealership has a Civic or Accord with over 800k miles on the lot. I'd love to see a 1.8T make it that far. Besides, I'd rather have a turbo'd B18C1 [C5 isn't turbo friendly.. ] for the same amount of money a 1.8T is [assuming you were buying brand new GS-R vs GTi, and if you aren't, I could source a Civic shell, B18C1, turbo, and an EMS for under $8k that'll run circles around your WV/Audi be it at the strip or the track]. Let me know when your coilpacks fail will ya?

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: mizzouXC
Mis information is letting some guy think your car can do 195 bhp (only you leave out the part that it's at over 7.5k rpm.

Must I continually beat you over the head with this?

The reason the peak HP is taken at such silly-high (to a VW owner) RPMs is because the Honda engine can reach and hold them with minimal effort. Where your peak numbers are at 5500 - time for you to shift - I'm just starting to really wade deep into my powerband.

How many people take their car to 7.5k rpm and use a JD Power rating to see how "reliable" their car is??

What do those two things have to do with each other? Overall Honda reliability numbers have constantly and substantially eclipsed those of VW.

A honda's motor is weaker than any german motor. Please, look at that chart and see at less than 4k rpm, a german engine is doing more than your honda engine at 6.5k. Pull your head out and get over it.

And that makes it weaker how? Because it can handle higher RPMs? Because it can make the same amount from a naturally aspirated engine as the FI VW model? Or because they're less expensive to purchase and maintain?

- M4H

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: mizzouXC
<a href="http://www.vwfixx.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14050">http://www.vwfixx.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14050</A> 350 hp, 1.8t that's all I have to say... well and it's a pretty fvcking flat curve. You're a disgrace to human kind.

Modded cars? Please. You rip on hondas for no low power, but that car in that link doesn't make sh*t for power before 3.5K rpms.

Audi/VW tuning is a butt pimple in size next to the Honda/Acura tuning community. 350 HP from a 1.8L honda is so 7 years ago.

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: mizzouXC
Mis information is letting some guy think your car can do 195 bhp (only you leave out the part that it's at over 7.5k rpm.

Must I continually beat you over the head with this?

The reason the peak HP is taken at such silly-high (to a VW owner) RPMs is because the Honda engine can reach and hold them with minimal effort. Where your peak numbers are at 5500 - time for you to shift - I'm just starting to really wade deep into my powerband.

How many people take their car to 7.5k rpm and use a JD Power rating to see how "reliable" their car is??

What do those two things have to do with each other? Overall Honda reliability numbers have constantly and substantially eclipsed those of VW.

A honda's motor is weaker than any german motor. Please, look at that chart and see at less than 4k rpm, a german engine is doing more than your honda engine at 6.5k. Pull your head out and get over it.

And that makes it weaker how? Because it can handle higher RPMs? Because it can make the same amount from a naturally aspirated engine as the FI VW model? Or because they're less expensive to purchase and maintain?

- M4H

And allow me to add, M4H; Honda's experience in Formula 1, Indy cars, and motorcycles. I feel perfectly safe revving my 2.2L Honda to 7k and beyond because its built for it. Honda has a reputation for high performance engines. Motorcycle engines rev daily past 10k. Forumla 1 engines hover in the 14k range and Indy cars about the same as well. You're telling me that a Honda engine can't or shouldn't be pushed in the upper regions of the rev range? Furthermore, with minor valve train upgrades (springs and retainers) most Honda engines can safely spin upwards of 8k and still remain perfectly reliable. Why is it that there are so many more old Hondas on the road the old VW/Audis? And allow me to remind you also that Honda has been selling cars with engines that rev pask 7k since 1990, 1992 in the US, and there have been no recalls or major problems with any of those engines. Now, what was it you were saying again about Hondas having weaker motors?

 

[OS]

That's a pretty piss poor dyno test. you have to go over 8k to get any reasonable results.. --> from a 1.8T Audi motor text Here's the whole review whole review

AHAHAAHA, that's supposed to be a good dyno? That baseline dyno is barely any higher than a stock, stick corolla. Please, STFU, go sit in your VW and jack off until you die.

 

[Bullhonkie]

I think it's pretty obvious he's just trolling at this point.

Originally posted by: OS
Please, STFU, go sit in your VW and jack off until you die.

He can stroke his nice looking dash while he does it too!