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alkemyst

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Honest question, with the HRT are you worried about what will happen when/if you go off them? Have you committed to doing them until old enough where your physique is not a concern? What made you decide to do them and how did you personally weigh the side effects to benefits?

it's really a life-long committment. When my physique is no longer a concern, nor performance, et al then I stop.

Due to a craptastic relationship and some major injuries that side lined me for 5 years, my hormones fell below normal levels and it was affecting me in my moods and health.

Benefits are awesome. I am back in business. 43 lbs of weight loss while enjoying life in less than 6 months, 12+ inches off my waist. People comment on my body, women double-take and come up and talk.

Had a freaking bad shot last week or so when my ex just showed up and came into my office while I was injecting. Went too shallow and suffered oil burns inside my leg for over a week.

I doubt on HRT I can ever be how big and strong I was before. I bet I can get the looks, but I doubt I can bench press station wagons again
 

momeNt

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it's really a life-long committment. When my physique is no longer a concern, nor performance, et al then I stop.

Due to a craptastic relationship and some major injuries that side lined me for 5 years, my hormones fell below normal levels and it was affecting me in my moods and health.

Benefits are awesome. I am back in business. 43 lbs of weight loss while enjoying life in less than 6 months, 12+ inches off my waist. People comment on my body, women double-take and come up and talk.

Had a freaking bad shot last week or so when my ex just showed up and came into my office while I was injecting. Went too shallow and suffered oil burns inside my leg for over a week.

I doubt on HRT I can ever be how big and strong I was before. I bet I can get the looks, but I doubt I can bench press station wagons again


TY for thoughtful answer. I'm not in your situation, but being dependent on something would make me think it gave you some pause before deciding to do it, it definitely has paid off very well. Congrats on great results.
 

alkemyst

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TY for thoughtful answer. I'm not in your situation, but being dependent on something would make me think it gave you some pause before deciding to do it, it definitely has paid off very well. Congrats on great results.

thanks. this is all good. down 3lbs since last week. Monster reborn 5/7/2014.

Most here want to deny that. I am ok with it. As a kid, I used to challenge 4 of my friends at a time while I was mid pool and they were outside.

I never lost.
 

Koing

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Didn't know you were doing HRT.

What are you taking? That must be helping your training out a lot.

I'm up to 87.8kg morning weight now. Weighed in at 90.6kg evening with my training kit. Up about 3kg in 4.5 weeks.

Koing
 

alkemyst

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Didn't know you were doing HRT.

What are you taking? That must be helping your training out a lot.

I'm up to 87.8kg morning weight now. Weighed in at 90.6kg evening with my training kit. Up about 3kg in 4.5 weeks.

Koing

Not really helping my training so much that I can tell over where I was at 35. I feel better though and more than likely it's helping a lot with my hormone count prior.

I take 200mg Test/100mg Deca a week (Deca to help joints), 50 units of HCG 2x a week and 1mg of Anastroxole a week.
 

Koing

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Drs are prescribing you Deca?

http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172.full

They were only taking Test and not with Deca so I'm willing to guess that your setup is definitely going to help you out in terms of training. 200mg of Test and 100mg of Deca seems like it'll do you a f0ck load of good!

Probably not enough test like the test sample (600mg per week) to get crazy gains but it'll be better then no test for sure.

Keep up the good training. No free rides in terms of real gains. Well I say that but a bodybuilder mate when on whatever juice he is on gets leaner and stronger without training! LOL. Then you have some amateurs do it, get big fast, like pack in a solid few years training in 3-4 cycles and then when they get off it they literally lose ALL gains.

Koing
 

Koing

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I see.

In drugs test they will pass you even if your levels are 3 or 4x the legal limit. No idea how much of an increase from 1 to 2, 3 or 4x test would *actually* improve performance. I just know that it's a hugely powerful hormone and 600mg per week is a solid sweet spot.

Koing
 

Cable God

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I take 200mg Test/100mg Deca a week (Deca to help joints), 50 units of HCG 2x a week and 1mg of Anastrozole a week.

Don't take this as a knock against you Alky, but.......ADex?. It's so 2000ish. Aromasin is way better. 12.5mg every other day is optimal to counteract the estro. Deca for HRT? lol, wow. Deca has nothing to do with HRT, and 100mg a week isn't nearly enough. You must have a doc that is a "buddy" to give you a script for Deca, and 200mg of Test a week is very generous for HRT. Most HRT is at 200mg every 2 or 3 weeks. HCG is measured in IU's like GH, so depending on how you reconstituted it, that 50 units could mean anything. You can PM me if you'd like.
 

alkemyst

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Don't take this as a knock against you Alky, but.......ADex?. It's so 2000ish. Aromasin is way better. 12.5mg every other day is optimal to counteract the estro. Deca for HRT? lol, wow. Deca has nothing to do with HRT, and 100mg a week isn't nearly enough. You must have a doc that is a "buddy" to give you a script for Deca, and 200mg of Test a week is very generous for HRT. Most HRT is at 200mg every 2 or 3 weeks. HCG is measured in IU's like GH, so depending on how you reconstituted it, that 50 units could mean anything. You can PM me if you'd like.

I am doing well on taking one pill a week. I have had blood work done every 8 weeks and all my levels are spot on.

The Deca I asked and wanted a higher dose because of it's potential for joint recovery...it's expensive.
 

alkemyst

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dinged 189 today, 48lbs so far in 24 weeks.

Then the next day I hit 188. F' yeah!
 
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adlep

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Post before after pics...
Kind of like you did at first...
Many people who do not like the OP will throw a fit.
 

adlep

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Post the entire sequence like before and after. Congrats on achieving your goal.
 

Koing

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Congrats on making it

Koing
 

Entity23

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Kind of a derail but how did you feel before HRT? I haven't gone to the doctor yet but I took an OTC test test and came out low. Just wondering how you felt/symptoms etc.
 
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Kind of a derail but how did you feel before HRT? I haven't gone to the doctor yet but I took an OTC test test and came out low. Just wondering how you felt/symptoms etc.

There are other threads in here that might help you a bit more if you search for "low testosterone." Alkemyst has answered a lot of things questions in previous threads - might be better for you to find the topics and get all your questions answered right up front.
 

alkemyst

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Kind of a derail but how did you feel before HRT? I haven't gone to the doctor yet but I took an OTC test test and came out low. Just wondering how you felt/symptoms etc.

For me, I was gaining weight too easy (I usually put on weight if I am inactive no matter what diet, but I was getting heavier in that), I was unmotivated and I'd get into a haze afternoon where I couldn't focus easily.

My sex drive and stuff was fine actually.

I feel much much better now and everything works like it should with exercise.

I was way low from a combination of a sexless marriage in the last few years and chronic pain due to two back to back major injuries taking me out for half a decade.

My current weight loss is 49lbs in 24 weeks while drinking beer a lot and having fun. I keep my diet strict though (tonight it was beer with a whole roasted chicken as my only meal other than a protein shake in the morning). Many can't handle this kind of diet though, I also take appetite suppressants right now (ECA stack) and a ton of vitamins/minerals/supplements.
 

Nebor

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My current weight loss is 49lbs in 24 weeks while drinking beer a lot and having fun. I keep my diet strict though (tonight it was beer with a whole roasted chicken as my only meal other than a protein shake in the morning). Many can't handle this kind of diet though, I also take appetite suppressants right now (ECA stack) and a ton of vitamins/minerals/supplements.

Reminds me of:
I survived because I'm me. I'm different. I have a different constitution, I have a different brain, I have a different heart. I got tiger blood, man.
 

Pantlegz

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No offense but you diet isn't anything out of the ordinary for anyone that cares about their physique. And most of them would tell you you're not doing it right, eating far too little, and while you might be making progress for now the diet isn't sustainable.
 

alkemyst

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No offense but you diet isn't anything out of the ordinary for anyone that cares about their physique. And most of them would tell you you're not doing it right, eating far too little, and while you might be making progress for now the diet isn't sustainable.

right, it's a cut...not a maintenance diet.

I think it's funny how so many believe my results are easy for most.
 
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right, it's a cut...not a maintenance diet.

I think it's funny how so many believe my results are easy for most.

Pssst... It is when you're on multiple test medications, ECA stack, and your long list of other junk. I think it's funny how you think it's due to your own, "special" actions.
 
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