just put together a p4 1.7, stock hsf...lapped tho...in an enermax mid tower...350 watts, 2 80mm panaflo's at 7 volts in the back, an msi 845 ultra ddr mobo, and i'm getting idle temps of 12 celcius and load temps of 32. using both the bios and mbm to check. can these be accurate ? also. i put the least amount of artic silver ever when mounting the hs. room temp around 75f. input welcome......