Can we distroy twister/hurricane ?

[GoHAnSoN]

say a twister is having it's fun twisting around, can we send a missile and explode in a way that create enough force to distroy it ?

Just my crazy though that came pass my mind. anyone mind to enlight me ?

 

[Cawchy87]

well, i'll throw a crazy idea back at you! I don't really think they can be "destroyed" as they are created by the storm above them. But mabye the heat from the bomb would be enough to counteract the cold wind that is clashing with the hot air to cause the tornado. It would have to be a very very very big bomb and since hurricanes are so massive i would think the only way to alter the system is to do some massive global warming in a concentraded area. Either that or i am completely wrong.

 

[gsellis]

It would need to be a very big bomb. Bigger than a daisy cutter and the new FAEs that they tested (15,000 lb bomb). Remember that a tornado is a massive effect over a mile or more in the vertical along (not including the whole mesocyclonic thunderstorm that probably generated it). Plus, if you needed to drop it in the middle of a tornado, guidance would be a big issue. Trying to steer a big bomb into the middle of a 200+ mph vortex seems like a lost cause.

As for a hurricane, it would need to be a VERY LARGE nuke (current tech). Not sure that the cure is not much worse than the poison Remember that the eye on Frances when it was Cat 4 was at least 10 miles across. A 100 megaton nuke might distrupt that much area to have some effect, the eye would probably not be the best target. Also remember that you need to quadruple the yield to double the power. Still, the initial overpressure might disrupt the low. I do believe that using a nuke on a hurrincane was suggested in the 40's or early 50's. There might be something on the web about it.

 

[Eskimo]

There was a study a few years back to try to disrupt a hurricane by basically creating an oil slick on the ocean in front of the path of the developing storm. It was thought that a layer of heavy oil would prevent surface evaporation which is what a hurricane uses to grow in strength. Obviously the flaw with this is the environmental impact of the petroleum based product on the marine ecosystem.

 

[dkozloski]

The amount of energy in an atmospheric storm is incredible. There is more energy in one line of tropical thunderstorms than in all the nuclear detonations to date. The energy release required to deflect a hurricane would be more destructive than the storm. I saw Captain Marvel turn off a tornado one time in a comic book but he's seldom around when you need him.

 

[DrPizza]

Short answer: forget it.
Longer answer: it'll never work. Plus, a hurricane isn't a hurricane just because of the eye... And, no nuclear bomb is going to have a noticeable impact on a hurricane.

 

[Chaotic42]

A hurricane produces about 6.0*10^14 watts of energy (1) or 5.2*10^19 J/day.

A nuclear bomb produces about 6.3*10^13 Joules of energy (2).

Now, I'm not up much on my SI units, but if you average that out over one day, you get 7.3*10^8 watts for a 15 megaton nuclear bomb.

There's a big difference there.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
A hurricane produces about 6.0*10^14 watts of energy (1) or 5.2*10^19 J/day.

A nuclear bomb produces about 6.3*10^13 Joules of energy (2).

Now, I'm not up much on my SI units, but if you average that out over one day, you get 7.3*10^8 watts for a 15 megaton nuclear bomb.

There's a big difference there.

'cept a nuke goes off in about a 100 millionth of a second...

I think you could fvck up a tornado pretty good with a large enough bomb, but there's no way for a hurricane. I suppose you could use a whole sh!tload of nukes all over the place, but that's gonna do way more damage than the hurricane itself.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: silverpig
'cept a nuke goes off in about a 100 millionth of a second...

I think you could fvck up a tornado pretty good with a large enough bomb, but there's no way for a hurricane. I suppose you could use a whole sh!tload of nukes all over the place, but that's gonna do way more damage than the hurricane itself.

I wasn't sure how long of a time period that was over.

Even so, you'd need hundreds or thousands to match the energy of a hurricane.

You could also just build a huge pipe and put one end in the eye of the hurricane.

 

[RadioactiveHamzter]

No way would a nuke blast a hurricane apart, what you do get when a nuke goes off is a huge amount of pressure, which may be enough to deflect it or even cause a hurricane to disperse. You could probably simulate it with a super computer, but I doubt that's gonna happen anytime soon since it aint practical, how many governments would risk setting off a nuke?

 

[ATilaptops]

This thread is histarical. If we started using nukes to kill hurricanes then Florida would be gone, lol. Even assuming all the blast energy was used against the hurricane, would the radiationstill kill off the surounding area's? Like cities in Fl where hurricanes hit...or am I wrong here? Would everything just be absorbed in killing the hurricane? Even if that is true, nukes aren't exactly cheap, I don't think the government cares that much about hurricane victims

 

[Kibbo]

Originally posted by: ATilaptops
This thread is histarical. If we started using nukes to kill hurricanes then Florida would be gone, lol. Even assuming all the blast energy was used against the hurricane, would the radiationstill kill off the surounding area's? Like cities in Fl where hurricanes hit...or am I wrong here? Would everything just be absorbed in killing the hurricane? Even if that is true, nukes aren't exactly cheap, I don't think the government cares that much about hurricane victims

First of all, the nuke could be used whent the storm in new, out in the ocean.

Second of all, the gov't cares a great deal about Florida voters in an election year.

Your cost concern is valid, though.

 

[gsellis]

WST Radio weather guy was talking about experiments with cloud seeding. It did reduce the wind force by spreading the storm out! Oops, but it also increased the rainfall amount (he mentioned double.) So, you get 40" rainfalls for lower winds. Not a good tradeoff when you consider that flooding is what kills the most people.

Wind shear and cooler waters kill lots of storms (hey, a nuke would heat the water a little, so it would just help power it ). So, a giant fan or an ocean blender.

 

just build a giant wall 50 miles high.

 

[oneshot47]

Originally posted by: Kibbo

Originally posted by: ATilaptops
This thread is histarical. If we started using nukes to kill hurricanes then Florida would be gone, lol. Even assuming all the blast energy was used against the hurricane, would the radiationstill kill off the surounding area's? Like cities in Fl where hurricanes hit...or am I wrong here? Would everything just be absorbed in killing the hurricane? Even if that is true, nukes aren't exactly cheap, I don't think the government cares that much about hurricane victims

First of all, the nuke could be used whent the storm in new, out in the ocean.

Second of all, the gov't cares a great deal about Florida voters in an election year.

Your cost concern is valid, though.

1. Just because you set it off in the ocean doesnt mean everyone else wont be affected. Winds will carry the radiation quite far, especially with the size of weaponry were talking about. Back when we still tested in the pacific, the blasts were sometimes strong enough to send an EMP pulse to hawaii and cut out their power. Im sure this would be an issue as well.

2. Possibly, but i dont.

 

[ATilaptops]

Originally posted by: Kibbo

Originally posted by: ATilaptops
This thread is histarical. If we started using nukes to kill hurricanes then Florida would be gone, lol. Even assuming all the blast energy was used against the hurricane, would the radiationstill kill off the surounding area's? Like cities in Fl where hurricanes hit...or am I wrong here? Would everything just be absorbed in killing the hurricane? Even if that is true, nukes aren't exactly cheap, I don't think the government cares that much about hurricane victims

First of all, the nuke could be used whent the storm in new, out in the ocean.

Second of all, the gov't cares a great deal about Florida voters in an election year.

Your cost concern is valid, though.

I was joking. But then again if they used a mass scale nuclear strike on the hurricanes right now then there wouldn't be anyone left in Fl to vote would there?

Btw, does anyone have exact figures on how much a nuke costs to make? I am prety sure it's in like the millions or something per nuke...

 

[gururu]

tornados are too random. first we have to figure out how to predict where they will start, then we can attempt to dismantle them. even then, they only last from seconds to minutes at a time. not worth destroying one only to have another start a mile away. hurricanes are WAY to much to cover just as others have said. The power of wind is only bested by the power of water.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Storms are too diffuse for this to work. As has been pointed out, hurricanes have far greater energy than all nuclear weapons together.

Try an experiment. When a big wave comes you way at a beach, launch a bottle rocket into it. Note how this effects the wave 40 feet left and right of the impact.

Not going to work.

 

[ReiAyanami]

a hurricane has the energy of like 100 hydrogen bombs. you would need like a freeze ray

 

[sao123]

a more likely way to counter a hurricane at sea, (however it also has severly disruptive tendencies) would be to perform some type of cold detonation at the sea floor, causing the coldest waters to rise to the surface, thus killing all feed for the storm.
Now this would have severe effects as i mentioned tsunamis, fish ecology destruction, water pollution.
What type of cold detonation could we use? couldnt be nuclear or combustion.

 

[k1pp3r]

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
a hurricane has the energy of like 100 hydrogen bombs. you would need like a freeze ray

Remote control iceburgs!!!!!!!!!!

 

[flamingelephant]

Even better than a freeze ray would be a thin layer of oil over the water of the ocean where the storm would me moving too. Hurricanes get all their energy from evaporating water, so if you cover the water with oil it cant evaporate as easily and the storm will weaken and go away. I read somewhere that they were testing it with "safe" oils that would break down and not hurt the environment. But you would still need a whole lot of oil to make it work

 

[eigen]

Originally posted by: flamingelephant
Even better than a freeze ray would be a thin layer of oil over the water of the ocean where the storm would me moving too. Hurricanes get all their energy from evaporating water, so if you cover the water with oil it cant evaporate as easily and the storm will weaken and go away. I read somewhere that they were testing it with "safe" oils that would break down and not hurt the environment. But you would still need a whole lot of oil to make it work

It would be cool to have genetically engineered organisms that could produce this oil.We could plant a small seed population at the first sign of a hurricane. We of course would need to control the creatures perhaps we could make them deficient in some chemical that they are not able to synthesize but that we could provide aerially.

 

[4dm]

All you technically need to do is to increase the air pressure at the center of the system to a level higher than the surroundings. The downside to this is that this high pressure would have to be maintained long enough for the system to dissipate.

 

[bpatters69]

There ar 22 people who can stop a Hurricane.......

They go to FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY!!!!!!!!!!!

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