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JD50

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If you count suicides maybe. Going by homicides Italy, Belgium, Finland, and Greece, Ireland, Portugal and Bulgaria are higher than them.

If you'll notice, he conveniently changed his wording from "firearm crime" to "firearm death rate"
 

a777pilot

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Is that a joke? Of course Australia is a western country. And were about the 3rd most developed country in the world.

I'm not advocating gun control. I'm just saying that it reduces homicide rates.

Been there many times. No you are not.
 

JD50

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I didnt change it.

You mentioned homicides. Are you talking about gun crime in general, homicides, homicides by firearm, or overall firearm death rate (including suicides and accidents)?

Of course, what people should focus on is overall homicide rate, the weapon used is irrelevant.
 

a777pilot

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Why does someone that purports to live in Australia even care what the canucks do or don't do? I would opine y'all have enough to worry about down there.
 

RocksteadyDotNet

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Why does someone that purports to live in Australia even care what the canucks do or don't do? I would opine y'all have enough to worry about down there.

Learn to read, I don't care what you do. I'm not attacking your laws.

I'm just correcting a bullshit statement.

And yeah, we do have shit to worry about. Inflation is taking off because unemployment is down to 4.9%.
 

JD50

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Learn to read, I don't care what you do. I'm not attacking your laws.

I'm just correcting a bullshit statement.

And yeah, we do have shit to worry about. Inflation is taking off because unemployment is down to 4.9%.

Your opinion is noted, thanks for contributing.
 

irishScott

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I see...

I didn't start this argument. I have no problem with U.S. gun laws, and don't think they should be changed.

I'm just sick of hearing bullshit about gun laws not working when the opposite is try. Have all the guns you want, I don't care, but don't turn around and argue that it doesn't cause problems. It does.

The homocide rate in the states in insane. Obviously there are demgraphic and social reasons for that, but a large cause is gun availibility.

It's insane? In some areas, yes it is. In most, not so much.

Typical foreigner mistake. You see America as one entity with one homogenous culture, and apply the numbers you read on that basis. Look more closely and you'll find a very large chunk of the nationwide murders occur in the highly liberal inner-cities that often have the strictest gun laws.

Also, I'm no racist, and I'm not saying black people are intrinsically more violent or any bullshit like that, but look at these numbers: http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_03.html 10% of the population is commiting 37.4% of the murders, and just barely less than the white majority. Possibly more given the large "unknown" demographic.

And gun laws will not work in a country that has, according to FBI estimates, 270,000,000 and counting firearms. Imagine if every man, woman and child in Australia owned 12 guns each. That's how many guns we have, and buy-backs have been a dismal failure when tried. So strict gun control laws would only put 10s of millions of guns into the hands of those who don't care about gun laws in the first place, the criminals.
 

a777pilot

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FFS. You really want to argue about this?

By nearly any standard you can think of we're at the top of the tree.

Yes, I know. We came to understand that on our trips there.

You had the hottest, the coldest, the wettest, the driest, the lowest, the highest, the biggest, the smallest, the brightest, the dullest, the bestest, the worsest.....

For really nice and friendly people you sure can be tedious.

You do understand the rest of the world laughs at you. they are not laughing with you, if that is what you are thinking.
 

RocksteadyDotNet

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It's insane? In some areas, yes it is. In most, not so much.

Typical foreigner mistake. You see America as one entity with one homogenous culture, and apply the numbers you read on that basis. Look more closely and you'll find a very large chunk of the nationwide murders occur in the highly liberal inner-cities that often have the strictest gun laws.

Also, I'm no racist, and I'm not saying black people are intrinsically more violent or any bullshit like that, but look at these numbers: http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_03.html 10% of the population is commiting 37.4% of the murders, and just barely less than the white majority. Possibly more given the large "unknown" demographic.

And gun laws will not work in a country that has, according to FBI estimates, 270,000,000 and counting firearms. Imagine if every man, woman and child in Australia owned 12 guns each. That's how many guns we have, and buy-backs have been a dismal failure when tried. So strict gun control laws would only put 10s of millions of guns into the hands of those who don't care about gun laws in the first place, the criminals.

I already stated that I understand the demographic and social issues you have that lead to violence. That doesn't mean guns arent a big issue.

And for the 10th time, I'm not advocating any law changes in American! FFS. It's way too late for that.
 

RocksteadyDotNet

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Yes, I know. We came to understand that on our trips there.

You had the hottest, the coldest, the wettest, the driest, the lowest, the highest, the biggest, the smallest, the brightest, the dullest, the bestest, the worsest.....

For really nice and friendly people you sure can be tedious.

You do understand the rest of the world laughs at you. they are not laughing with you, if that is what you are thinking.

Wait, wat.

What are you smoking? We're talking about gun control but you just keep writing post after post of jealous ridden Australia bashing.

Can we stick to the topic?
 

a777pilot

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Learn to read, I don't care what you do. I'm not attacking your laws.

I'm just correcting a bullshit statement.

And yeah, we do have shit to worry about. Inflation is taking off because unemployment is down to 4.9%.

Unemployment is down to 4.9%? Damn! We could lend you Bobo, the Post Turtle,for a few years. He could get that number up to 10% in no time. Let us know.
 

a777pilot

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Wait, wat.

What are you smoking? We're talking about gun control but you just keep write post after post of jealous ridden Australia bashing.

Can we stick to the topic?

Stick to the topic?

You mean like you did?

Besides, what fun would that be?
 

RocksteadyDotNet

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Unemployment is down to 4.9%? Damn! We could lend you Bobo, the Post Turtle,for a few years. He could get that number up to 10% in no time. Let us know.

If you actually think a president can have that much affect on an economy then you're a bigger idiot than I thought.
 

a777pilot

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p.s., I enjoyed every trip I had to Australia while in the Marine Corps. I was impressed with your country and even more impressed with the friendly and thoughtful people there.

Just thought I should say that.
 

RocksteadyDotNet

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p.s., I enjoyed every trip I had to Australia while in the Marine Corps. I was impressed with your country and even more impressed with the friendly and thoughtful people there.

Just thought I should say that.

Did you enjoy some of our legal prostitution? The brothels are packed out when U.S. troops come to down.

 
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