sandorski
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This thread does not need to be derailed, thanks mr random uppercase guy.
Fair enough.
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This thread does not need to be derailed, thanks mr random uppercase guy.
Looks like the current Tory seats in the Quebec City area might be safe afterall. Mayor Labeaume was so successful in convincing the population that his federal-less plan is viable moneywise that the arena is now a nonfactor in this election. It's a done deal in the voters mind... Now the Tory MPs are trying to make as little waves as possible and not stir anything else that might come back to haunt them locally. Just avoiding mistakes is a sound strategy when you're an incumbent.
I don't know how the conservatives are doing this. So many things blew up but it is not really affecting them. I guess it's all Iggy's fault.
What blew up? All I've seen is bleeps here and there, which no one but the most anti-Harper / anti-conservative advocates would care about. The G20 is the only thing that was truly hurtful to the party in how it was handled, but not ground shaking. If Chretien's strangling of a protestor didn't change votes, why would Harper giving a handshake to his son do it?
Harper did a good job of weathering the recession despite a minority goverment and is the G8 country that came out of it with the least damage. Luckily most Canadians are still sound minded. The truth of the matter is the Conservative party is the closest thing to a centrist party right now, with the Liberal party having shifted so much to the left that people are simply going to Layton who does it better and is a better leader. If you read through both the NDP and Liberal platform (I have) they are so close together the past 2 elections that there is very little separating the two.
There was a time when people with slight conservative values but didn't like some policies could vote for the Liberals. The Liberals have completely lost touch with Canadians and what they want.
That's a good start.The NDP keep surging... The only bright side, and I'm not exactly convinced it's a really a brightside, if the polls ring true, it looks like the Conservatives will be denied a majority again.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...cts-100-seats-for-surging-ndp/article1998361/
The NDP keep surging... The only bright side, and I'm not exactly convinced it's a really a brightside, if the polls ring true, it looks like the Conservatives will be denied a majority again.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...cts-100-seats-for-surging-ndp/article1998361/
I would be fine with the Conservatives if they weren't neo-cons using voodoo economics. You can't cut taxes and increase spending. I realize that we needed the stimulus, but they are not showing signs of cutting spending even now. Flaherty made a mess in Ontario when he was the finance minister. If the Conservatives win a majority, it will be a nightmare.
The way in which the stimulus spending was managed is a joke as well. I saw streets that were in perfectly good condition torn up and replaced, along with the concrete sidewalks, while there were tons of major thoroughfares in complete disarray that did not get fixed.
TBH I'm more comfortable with the NDP seeing as they're at least willing to re-allocate money instead of trying to pull it out of thin air. The Liberals seem like they're all over the place, and I'm not a fan of Ignatief.
All of that said, it does look like the Conservatives are going to win. I hope they will surprise me and do a decent job while balancing the books.
As much as I hate being taxed, it seems worth it in a lot of cases. My city decided to stop fucking around and start building a ring road, change traffic lights to overpasses, and expand the city's train system. HUGE improvement. Better healthcare would be nice tooIf the NDP formed a majority (not gonna happen) they'd do what David Miller did in Toronto: increase spending a lot and jack up taxes; Miller managed a surplus in his final year. The far-left aren't afraid to raise taxes to cover the costs, which is good and bad.
Because it's regressive taxation. We've gone over this many times in P&N. Poor people spend a higher percentage of their money, so poor people are more strongly affected by sales tax.Too bad the people will not stomach the restoration of GST back to 7%. That is really the root of the problem.
Because it's regressive taxation. We've gone over this many times in P&N. Poor people spend a higher percentage of their money, so poor people are more strongly affected by sales tax.
Ignatieff seems like he could do the job. Nothing spectacular, but he'd get the job done and maintain the status quo.
Too bad the people will not stomach the restoration of GST back to 7%. That is really the root of the problem.
The plan to pay for all of this is to implement an environmental fee (cap and trade) system, which the private sector will no doubt gracefully absorb to take lower profits instead of passing them onto the consumer.
Take money from the people who have money. Poor people already have a hard time, so we could at least try to give them some slack on taxes.I don't bother with P&N. Income tax is already at a high enough level and about the right distribution, how would you make up the revenue shortfall?
Here in Sask we have had lots of NDP governments
Always been very pragmatic and competant if not business stifling though and thats what Layton's NDP offer economy crippling idealology
Take money from the people who have money. Poor people already have a hard time, so we could at least try to give them some slack on taxes.
I'm doing well these days, but I was poor at one time. I always remember that and I care for my poor people :wub: