Canadian Election 2011

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Number1

Diamond Member
Feb 24, 2006
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I like to read the comment sections in the Globe & Mail, CBC and National Post web sites. Invariably, the vast majority of comments are vicious attack on the CPC. Obviously those people are not a good representation of what Canadians really think out there. I find it much more balanced here in P&N.
 

Abwx

Lifer
Apr 2, 2011
11,823
4,753
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Sigh... more years of Canadian Bush. Hopefully he will use his mandate to abolish the monarchy and not concentrate on imperialistic Arctic ambitions.

Monarchy ??...
Thought than the Queen s statut was only symbolic at most...

That said, kudo to the NPD voters that did prove that they
are well more advanced than european countries voters...

http://www.www.algerieinfo.com/

These three wouldn t have stood the slightest chance
in an european poll...

Bravo , les Canadiens !!
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
20,577
432
126
Happy to see the Conservative majority. Even happier to see the Bloc pounded. I'll be home in Montreal for the first time in years to see a daughter graduate, and the Bloc swept away as a force will make my visit extra happy.

Michael

Yeah, I'm quite all right with these results as well. The Conservatives aren't really that bad, and the nonsense the NDP is sure to propose in Parliament is worth the destruction of the Bloc.

Second best thing about this election: Ontario is no longer a Liberal stronghold, meaning that every party out there will from this point forward promise the world to this province in order to win votes. After being taken for granted for years, it's time for some Ontario-first politics. Witness the rise of the Bloc Ontarique!

Harper's speech was gracious and inclusive, He remains a Canadian and my Prime Minister so I have a faint hope for the best.

Of course I'm disappointed at him cutting "now witness the power of this fully operational battle station!" out of his speech.

Haha.

It's a little too late, but is there something I can read up on to find out what the actual platforms of the parties are?

Yep, check this infographic out.
 
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Iron Woode

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Oct 10, 1999
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I must say I am quite pleased at the outcome of this election.

My prediction was off. I thought the Liberals would be the official opposition.
 

little elvis

Senior member
Sep 8, 2005
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I like to read the comment sections in the Globe & Mail, CBC and National Post web sites. Invariably, the vast majority of comments are vicious attack on the CPC. Obviously those people are not a good representation of what Canadians really think out there. I find it much more balanced here in P&N.

Read /r/canada on reddit..... WOW. Apparently Harper eats babies and will immediately proceed to destroy the country
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
20,577
432
126
Ignatieff just announced he's resigning the leadership of the Liberal Party, as expected.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
99,184
17,482
126
Unfortunately the best hope, Bob Rae, will not be elected leader although he is the most level headed and capable person.
 

ShawnD1

Lifer
May 24, 2003
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I still can't believe Dan McTeague lost...wtf people, I thought we are supposed to vote for the best candidate not the party?
!?!?!?!?!?
Are you sure you understand how Canada works?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_senate#Senators
The governor general holds the power to appoint senators, although, in modern practice, he or she makes appointments only on the advice of the prime minister. Senators originally held their seats for life; however, under the British North America Act, 1965 (now known as the Constitution Act, 1965), members, save for those appointed prior to the change, may not sit in the Senate after reaching the age of 75. Prime ministers normally choose members of their own parties to be senators, though they sometimes nominate independents or members of opposing parties. In practice, a large number of the members of the Senate are ex-Cabinet ministers, ex-provincial premiers, and other eminent people.


Read that twice over. If you have no brain of your own and you suck the prime minister's penis on every single issue, you will be appointed to the senate where you have the best job in the entire world and you have that job for the rest of your life (or until age 75). Independent thinking is strongly discouraged. Whoever you vote for will blindly follow the party no matter what because being a senator is the ultimate job anyone could have.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
99,184
17,482
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!?!?!?!?!?
Are you sure you understand how Canada works?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_senate#Senators



Read that twice over. If you have no brain of your own and you suck the prime minister's penis on every single issue, you will be appointed to the senate where you have the best job in the entire world and you have that job for the rest of your life (or until age 75). Independent thinking is strongly discouraged. Whoever you vote for will blindly follow the party no matter what because being a senator is the ultimate job anyone could have.

MP<> Senators. I don't know what part of that you missed. Senate reform is one thing I would like to see happening but what has that got to do with this election?
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
99,184
17,482
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Yes, I am mad the idiots voted for the party as opposed to the better candidate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_McTeague

I don't have a problem with PC, I have a big issue with Reform. And Manning said out right it was a Reform Party Government.

Having said that, I have no control over other ridings, but I am pissed at the people in my riding that voted for NDP and knocked a good MP from parliament. He fought UBB for crying out loud.
 
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ShawnD1

Lifer
May 24, 2003
15,987
2
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MP<> Senators. I don't know what part of that you missed. Senate reform is one thing I would like to see happening but what has that got to do with this election?
MPs become senators. You become a senator by following the leader and never questioning them. The party even has a dedicated person to make sure everyone votes the "correct" way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_whip
A whip is an official in a political party whose primary purpose is to ensure party discipline in a legislature. Whips are party 'enforcers', who typically offer inducements and threaten punishments for party members to ensure that they vote according to the official party policy. A whip's role is also to ensure that the elected representatives of their party are in attendance when important votes are taken. The usage comes from the hunting term whipping in, i.e. preventing hounds from wandering away from the pack.

The Canada-specific article is here, but it's probably not worth reading since it's basically the same in every country. You either vote with us or you're out of the party.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_Whip_(Canada)
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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MPs become senators. You become a senator by following the leader and never questioning them. The party even has a dedicated person to make sure everyone votes the "correct" way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_whip


The Canada-specific article is here, but it's probably not worth reading since it's basically the same in every country. You either vote with us or you're out of the party.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_Whip_%28Canada%29


wtf, MPs don't become senetors automatically, PM select senetors. Don't like the system (I don't), change the system.

but that has nothing to do with my local riding election!

I detest the current party driven system, it's just bad for the people. I prefer proportional rep with free vote, even if you have a party. MPs are supposed to represent riding, not party.
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
20,577
432
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I still can't believe Dan McTeague lost...wtf people, I thought we are supposed to vote for the best candidate not the party?

Dan McTeague losing is great news!

Liberal MP Dan McTeague Emerges As Unofficial CRIA Spokesperson

The McTeague comments - along with his positions at the C-32 committee - raise important questions about how the Liberal Opposition Critic for Consumer and Consular Affairs has emerged as the most anti-consumer MP on the committee from any party (a point noted in a follow-up letter to the editor). Even more troubling is evidence to suggest that McTeague's comments are being actively fed by the Canadian Recording Industry Association, with McTeague using his platform on the committee to effectively become an unofficial spokesperson.

On the substance of McTeague's response, it is worth emphasizing that the Canadian lawsuit against isoHunt is a stand alone suit that relies exclusively on current Canadian law to argue for damages and a judicially ordered shutdown of the site. While isoHunt may have filed the first suit, the response from the industry has been unequivocal in all court documents as it firmly argues that the site is not compliant with current Canadian law.

Rather than focusing on the timing of the suits, one would think that McTeague would be more interested in the substance. Yet the C-32 hearings to date suggest that he is not particularly interested in responses that veer from the CRIA script.

...

Were this nothing more than an MP getting the law wrong, it would not be particularly noteworthy. More important is that McTeague's recent comments appear to be coming directly from CRIA. The Toronto Star letter to the editor includes quotes from two old posts on my blog (here and here). The visitor log for my site reveals that only one party accessed both posts in the period between February 14th (when the column first appeared) and February 21st (when the letter to the editor appeared). That party was CRIA, suggesting that the McTeague letter may largely be a cut and paste of materials supplied by CRIA lobbyists.

This is hardly the first time the link between McTeague and CRIA has been made. In 2006, he wrote an op-ed in the Hill Times that observers noted could have been written by CRIA as it hauled out every claim in the book - no matter how disputed - to make the case that "our businesses, the police, and prosecutors are left saddled with an ineffectual legal regime that is the object of world condemnation."

So long, Danny boy! Hope the CRIA still likes you enough to offer you a job even though you're now useless to them!

Unfortunately the best hope, Bob Rae, will not be elected leader although he is the most level headed and capable person.

I think in the severe rebuilding phase the Liberals are about to embark upon he has a very good shot.
 

Spicedaddy

Platinum Member
Apr 18, 2002
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I'm still not sure what's worse: the bunch of nobodies from the NDP we elected in Quebec, or Toronto giving Harper his majority...
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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Dan McTeague losing is great news!

Liberal MP Dan McTeague Emerges As Unofficial CRIA Spokesperson



So long, Danny boy! Hope the CRIA still likes you enough to offer you a job even though you're now useless to them!



I think in the severe rebuilding phase the Liberals are about to embark upon he has a very good shot.

I didn't say I agree with him 100&#37;, there are things that I don't agree with him on. But overall, he was the best candidate at hand. Look at his overall record, not just that particular issue.

He did opposed the previous incarnation of copyright reform calling it too restrictive.

oh well, I should get over it.
 
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yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
20,577
432
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I didn't say I agree with him 100%, there are things that I don't agree with him on. But overall, he was the best candidate at hand. Look at his overall record, not just that particular issue.

He did opposed the previous incarnation of copyright reform calling it too restrictive.

oh well, I should get over it.

I think your position and disappointment about McTeague are totally warranted if you feel he's been a good MP to your riding and served your interests. As someone outside his riding, the range of issues I care about that he affected were a lot smaller - so from my perspective it's great that he got the boot. I think it's reasonable for both of our sentiments to coexist.
 

desy

Diamond Member
Jan 13, 2000
5,446
214
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Some people vote candidate some vote party. Look at the NDP candidates that got in some even had permanent fixed addresses
It infuriates my wife when candidates flip parties, she wants them to resign, I tell her if you unhappy with the flop don't vote for them next time
 
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Firebot

Golden Member
Jul 10, 2005
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2
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Yes, I am mad the idiots voted for the party as opposed to the better candidate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_McTeague

I don't have a problem with PC, I have a big issue with Reform. And Manning said out right it was a Reform Party Government.

Having said that, I have no control over other ridings, but I am pissed at the people in my riding that voted for NDP and knocked a good MP from parliament. He fought UBB for crying out loud.

Don't blame the voters, blame the party for being out of touch with Canadians which your candidate represented.

Great article on what went wrong with the Liberals and I mentioned most of it earlier in this thread before the election that the Liberals shifting to the left would hurt them.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...-went-wrong-and-where-to-next/article2008011/

Here's a great comment from the comment section that sums it up.

To sum up the Liberal campaign message:

"We're the Liberals damnit!...what the hell is wrong with you people?"

Somehow it was a message that failed to connect with voters.

Repeating that the Conservatives are so bad may sound good in the minds of partisans, but Canadians who don't have a partisanship bias voted for the party that best represents their views, and that currently is the CPC. Liberals shouldn't have tried to become NDP light, the NDP just does the left much better.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
99,184
17,482
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I think your position and disappointment about McTeague are totally warranted if you feel he's been a good MP to your riding and served your interests. As someone outside his riding, the range of issues I care about that he affected were a lot smaller - so from my perspective it's great that he got the boot. I think it's reasonable for both of our sentiments to coexist.

Of course. And I was not expecting anything else.
 
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