cancer research

[Baldeagle76]

I have noticed that everyone on these boards is really into Seti. I wonder about the cancer research currently being done at Cancer Research. How many people would be interested in doing something like that?

I have already joined myself and I am sure there are others who frequent these boards that have also. I am sure as you progress through life you will be touched by cancer at some point. I know aliens are cool but solving problems here at home first makes sense to me.

I don't think I should be the one to head the team up. I think in order to be a success (sp?) this would have to be handled by an anandtech moderator, elite member or lifer. I am nothing but a n00b here. Heck maybe most of you won't even like my suggestion. I don't know. Please feel free to disagree but please no flames on me. Thank you.

I have noticed at times as well that this program will be using up 99% of my CPU time. Any way to stop that kind of thing? I thought DC was about "spare" Cpu cycles not all of them.

Please consider this and thank you for your time.

EDIT : I did do an advanced search in this forum with the word "cancer". Since I didn't find anything I posted this. If I overlooked something I would be happy to be pointed in the right direction.

 

[wischeez]

AnandTech already has a Team crunching at United Devices.

Seti DOES use "spare" cycles....... If you are using 60%, Seti is using the other 40% and so on.......... If your computer is "Idle", Seti will use 100%.



Link to the Team ----->The Team

 

[Unforgiven]

you can also do cancer research (as well as for other diseases) by running Find-A-Drug. you might wanna check out that project as well baldeagle76 :beer:

 

[xComputerManiacx]

Yup, Find-A-Drug does do Cancer research, as well as HIV and other diseases. FaD also doesn't seem to be as resource hungry as a few other DC projects that I have tried in the past. For over half a year, I crunched FaD with a PIII 666 and was still able to move up through the early ranks.

 

[Baldeagle76]

thanks for the info guys, I will be looking into find a drug. Is there anyway to fix it so DC doesn't take 99% cpu time if you are just browsing the internet? it seems to lock up my system sometimes? Thanks again for info

 

[JC]

I run FaD on my web box, and I don't even realize it's running

 

[mondobyte]

I run FaD on lots of computers and no one realizes it is running. I frequently play games like Unreal Tournament and such and FaD does not seem to interfere that I ever notice.

FaD is one of the "lightest touch" DC projects that I have run and I've run quite a few including SETI, UD, D2OL, and Climate Prediction just to name a few ...

Hope to see you crunching FaD with us!

 

[Fingers]

Originally posted by: Baldeagle76
thanks for the info guys, I will be looking into find a drug. Is there anyway to fix it so DC doesn't take 99% cpu time if you are just browsing the internet? it seems to lock up my system sometimes? Thanks again for info

Is your system overclocked? If so any dc project will stress it to the point of lockup if it's not completely stable.

 

[Unforgiven]

D2OL is one of the harder DC projects to run without noticing. its a resource hog and can bring even the most up to date computer to its knees! you will find FaD less intrusive and you will barely notcie it running (if at all).

 

[amdxborg]

Hi Baldeagle!

The whole idea of DC is to use as much of your idle cpu cycles as possible. If your doin nothing and where your cpu would normally be 100% idle, a dc project would use all it can get say 99%. If another program comes along that needs your cpu, the dc client backs off and uses only what's left of the cpu. The dc project runs on low priority and normal programs runs on normal priority and that how the dc project only gets the leftovers of the cpu!

About the lockups, have a look in task manager at the priority of the dc client and make sure it's at low priority. Check your cpu temps cause now that the cpu is used a lot more, it gets a little hotter than normal.

 

[GLeeM]

Welcome to the TeAm, Baldeagle76

DC project clients use spare CPU cycles. Your UD client is only using what you are not. Web browsing needs only about - zero percent - of your CPU most of the time.

UD is a fine project and there are many here crunching it. See CyGoRs stats thread - http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=1498108&enterthread=y

I have never had a problem with UD locking up my computers. It runs as an "idle process", the lowest possible priority. I never leave the GUI window showing for very long though. Do you? It might be a graphics driver problem that's locking it up.

In fact I run UD on all my computers as a secondary project. I don't have an always on connection so when my primary project (Folding@Home set to low priorityand 95% CPU usage) finishes a WU, the client cannot get another WU until I connect. In the mean time UD uses the CPU, this way I don't have the rig sitting doing nothing!

When I ran four Seti instances on my dual HT rig UD got quite a few cycles that the Seti clients did not use. (any Seti TeAm players out there hearing this?)

Folding@Home also does cancer research, along with trying to find cures for Alzhiemers, Parkinsons, ALS and many other diseases. See malaks thread - http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=1497678&enterthread=y

There is a link to a recent scientific paper in that thread.

PS - you don't have to worry about being flamed in this forum.

 

[Baldeagle76]

You guys are great thanks all for your help.

I reinstalled UD again last night and joined Team Anandtech only to have my CPU crash when the program starts running. Uninstall the program and no crashes.

My system is not overclocked but it is set to manual. I have an Athlon xp 2100+ running in the only socket a motherboard A7N8X deluxe. I have 1gb pny memory. The factory defaults on my CPU in bios is 100mhz x 11 = 1100, so of course I don't like those. Yes I have recently read some overclocking stuff and manually set 166mhz x 9.5 =1527. For a cpu rated at 1.67ghz I didn't think this would be a problem. I installed and ran prime95 for a torture test to make sure it was okay at this setting last night but when UD crashed my system I didn't see a log file under the Prime95 directory. So not really sure. I think I will try the Find a drug project instead. Anything that crashes or locks up the system just isn't good.

How do you set the priority lowerer if I was to try this UD again? Because when I double clicked on my Age of Mythology it wouldn't open cuz system was locked up from UD client so maybe priority is my problem?

Thanks again. You guys rock, so glad I found this website and forum

EDIT : I thought folding@home was about proteins, I didn't know it was about cures? did someone link a team anandtech for find a drug and I miss it ?

 

[GLeeM]

Baldeagle76, thanks for sticking with it and keeping trying!

amdxborg gave good advice about overheating.
I think you will find that any DC project will do the same to your computer if it is overclocked too high or is overheating.

Have you recently blown the dust out of the CPU heatsink?

Sometimes a tiny lowering of the overclock will fix a problem. Or easing up on the ram latencies.

As far as I know only a few projects allow you to change the priority and only one, Folding@Home, that allows you to set how much CPU % it uses. You cannot raise the priority any higher than "idle" in UD. And there is not a lower setting.

The proteins of DNA are the building blocks, if they mis-form we get problems.

 

[Fardringle]

If your CPU is showing up in the motherboard BIOS with 'default' speeds of 100x11, then your motherboard probably isn't recognizing the CPU properly and may need a BIOS update, particularly if it is revision 1.06 or earlier. Also, at the speed you are running, while the net speed is lower than the rated speed for the CPU, you are still technically overclocking the system since you are running the FSB at 33Mhz faster than it is supposed to be set. And if you are using slower memory (PC2100 or PC2700) you are also probably overclocking the RAM as well by running it at 166Mhz FSB. The factory settings for a 2100+ are 133x13.

 

[Unforgiven]

i think Fardringle drilled it. the fsb is too high for that chip. i can understand you dont wanna run it at 100 mhz fsb but that chip is only meant for 133 mhz fsb with the correct multiplier. try what Fardringle suggested at a factory setting of 133x13 and i bet that helps with stability.

 

[Baldeagle76]

yeah you guys are right it is definetly stability related to my settings. I tried something different in prime95. I used benchmarks instead of stress test, my baby goes down faster then a geisha girl when she sees a GI coming her way. It is bad. Crap. I have DDR 400 Fardringle, that is why I thought I could use 333 FSB with no problem even though yes it is technically overclock.

On my Asus A7N8X I have bios 1003. I downloaded bios 1010b and the new awdflash.exe to my floppy and booted up. But it doesn't ever load? Gives me an error like programs don't match do you wish to load? I hit yes, last night and it stuck for six plus hours doing nothing. So .... Kinda off subject there but I thought I would tell you what bios I was running.

Yes I did blow out the whole motherboard with canned air about a week ago and bought a new all copper heatsink. My ram latencies are 3-4-4-8, I left those optimal for stability since I was already "tweaking" the cpu GLeeM. I plan to stick with it. I would like to join team anandtech at UD but anything doing research is good I guess. Thanks for all your help.

crapola unforgiven I guess you are right and I have to lower the FSB, /cry /wine /pout, or maybe I will just order that xp 3000+ with FSB 400mhz ... hehe

Again guys, I really appreciate your help. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I'm just a n00b so thanks for being so nice

 

[Unforgiven]

we were all 'n00bs' once and the only way we gained knowledge is by tweaking and failing until gaining needed experience to do things right. hopefully things get worked out and you can help the TeAm in some kind of project without sacrificing your computer stability

on another note, you can still try overclocking but just raise the fsb at a slower rate and not so drastically. i overclock my xp 2000 slightly using a utility called speedfan which allows me to overclock from within a gui in windows. try inching your fsb speed up slowly to see if you can get any overclock. i just think the 33 mhz fsb hike is too much for it to handle.

 

[Baldeagle76]

Well, I just finished updating bios driver. Onboard sound doesn't work now but that is so minor compared to an increase in system stability. when everything is worked out tonight and I have joined a team I will let you guys know.

 

[GLeeM]

Originally posted by: Baldeagle76
or maybe I will just order that xp 3000+ with FSB 400mhz ... hehe

That sounds good too, but don't give up on the Athlon xp 2100+

LOL
You'll probably want both down the road if the same thing happens to you that has happened to everyone else here.