Car that runs on Water!!!

[RichPLS]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: RichPLS
The article claims that a single car battery will do it, and consumes less power than you headlights.

There is an important law of thermodynamics. You cannot get out more energy than you put in. Thus when the "brown gas" recombines, you get less power than you need to power a headlight if that article was true.

Or what is more likely, is that they use external electricity.

WHAT!!! In that case, I will email Zimbabway to request my investment of $30,000 back immediately!

 

[KidViciou$]

Originally posted by: Stunt
GUYS:

"We think outside the box, and we have come up with the solution in 2 1/2 months."
*atricle posted 15/10/2004*

(I don't think he did it)

jesus christ, now i know that it was all BS. sorry for posting it

 

[KidViciou$]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: RichPLS
The article claims that a single car battery will do it, and consumes less power than you headlights.

There is an important law of thermodynamics. You cannot get out more energy than you put in. Thus when the "brown gas" recombines, you get less power than you need to power a headlight if that article was true.

Or what is more likely, is that they use external electricity.

they are looking for a more efficient means than gasoline. i'm currently studying the second law of thermodynamics for a final tomorrow

 

[alphatarget1]

Originally posted by: KidViciou$

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: RichPLS
The article claims that a single car battery will do it, and consumes less power than you headlights.

There is an important law of thermodynamics. You cannot get out more energy than you put in. Thus when the "brown gas" recombines, you get less power than you need to power a headlight if that article was true.

Or what is more likely, is that they use external electricity.

they are looking for a more efficient means than gasoline. i'm currently studying the second law of thermodynamics for a final tomorrow

internal combustion engines (otto cycle, diesel cycle, brayton (internal? forgot), whatever) are never really efficient.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: KidViciou$

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: RichPLS
The article claims that a single car battery will do it, and consumes less power than you headlights.

There is an important law of thermodynamics. You cannot get out more energy than you put in. Thus when the "brown gas" recombines, you get less power than you need to power a headlight if that article was true.

Or what is more likely, is that they use external electricity.

they are looking for a more efficient means than gasoline. i'm currently studying the second law of thermodynamics for a final tomorrow

internal combustion engines (otto cycle, diesel cycle, brayton (internal? forgot), whatever) are never really efficient.

Brayton is a jet turbine engine...

I want a GE Turbine powered car!! :evil:

 

[ExpertNovice]

Originally posted by: KidViciou$
this isn't a hydrogen cell, this is pure water that propels the car using something called brown's gas

and it was developed in south africa, not USA so the free market argument doesn't really apply

History of the Hydrogen Fuel Cell began in 1839. Apparently Wales is part of South Africa, a fact that I will research later.

However, there is a HUGE difference in inventing (Da Vinci invented the heliocopter) and producing an economially feasible version.

 

[alphatarget1]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: KidViciou$

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: RichPLS
The article claims that a single car battery will do it, and consumes less power than you headlights.

There is an important law of thermodynamics. You cannot get out more energy than you put in. Thus when the "brown gas" recombines, you get less power than you need to power a headlight if that article was true.

Or what is more likely, is that they use external electricity.

they are looking for a more efficient means than gasoline. i'm currently studying the second law of thermodynamics for a final tomorrow

internal combustion engines (otto cycle, diesel cycle, brayton (internal? forgot), whatever) are never really efficient.

Brayton is a jet turbine engine...

I want a GE Turbine powered car!! :evil:

oh yeah, we're talking about cars, not thermoefficiency

Jet turbine engines are only like, 20% efficient. Or something close to that.

 

[conehead433]

Jesus could probably run on water. Wonder if he ever did.

 

[RichPLS]

Originally posted by: conehead433
Jesus could probably run on water. Wonder if he ever did.

No, back then they were impressed simply with him just walking on water, today to get same effect he would have to sing, dance and levitate on the water all while juggling the Bible and Quran (careful not to get any water on it tho)... of course this would have a group claiming to know the secrets he used to accomplish these "tricks", and impersonators would crop up all over the trying to one up him.

 

[Kerouactivist]

Originally posted by: ExpertNovice

Originally posted by: KidViciou$
this isn't a hydrogen cell, this is pure water that propels the car using something called brown's gas

and it was developed in south africa, not USA so the free market argument doesn't really apply

History of the Hydrogen Fuel Cell began in 1839. Apparently Wales is part of South Africa, a fact that I will research later.

However, there is a HUGE difference in inventing (Da Vinci invented the heliocopter) and producing an economially feasible version.

Wales is in the U.K.

 

[Vic]

The Law of Conservation of Energy, aka the first law of thermodynamics, is not a conspiracy theory.

 

[manohartvs]

ooooooooooooooh!!
At one point I was wondering what boats do.

 

[RichPLS]

I thought this was either a post about Teddy Kennedy's new car or those Cubans that keep rigging up antique trucks that will float to Florida.

 

[ExpertNovice]

Originally posted by: bthorny

Originally posted by: ExpertNovice

Originally posted by: KidViciou$
this isn't a hydrogen cell, this is pure water that propels the car using something called brown's gas

and it was developed in south africa, not USA so the free market argument doesn't really apply

History of the Hydrogen Fuel Cell began in 1839. Apparently Wales is part of South Africa, a fact that I will research later.

However, there is a HUGE difference in inventing (Da Vinci invented the heliocopter) and producing an economially feasible version.

Wales is in the U.K.

ROFL. Yes, I know. I like to use humor including satire and sarcasm. Probably too much. hehe.

If you followed the thread I mentioned that President Bush authorized 1.7 billion dollars to be spent on developing a hydrogen fuel cell.

The viscious kid said it was developed in South Africa. Actually, as far as I know, no viable hydrogen fuel cell has yet to be developed, but then who am I to point this small fact out.

So, I posted a history of the fuel cell that indicates that the fuel cell was first developed in Wales.

Now, for the humor part. Since Viscious personally did the research and knows it was developed in South Africa and since I only did a quick goggle and found a reference to it being developed in Wales I am HUMOROUSLY (for those with a sense of humor) making these two sources of vast wealth agree. To do that either Wales is part of South Africa or South Africa is part of Wales. The latter being SOOO not politically correct I chose the former. Knowing this is untrue,here comes more sarcasm, I suggested that fact would be researched later. Oh, i did mean MUCH, MUCH later. In fact, this research project will most lkely be forgotten.

enjoy.

 

[Harvey]

Cue the theramin OOoo-o-o-oWEE-e-e-e-eooooo-o-o-o-ooo (old sci fi movie / "Good Vibrations" sound effect). Someone's been smoking some brown gas, but it isn't hydrogen or oxygen. :roll: :laugh:

The most powerful derivative of this kind of fiction is its miraculous ability to remove money from the accounts of anyone dumb enough to invest in it.

 

[Train]

If people start driving cars that run on water, I wonder how long it will takes before we see $60 barrels of fresh water? Receding coastlines, rainy seasons in normally dry climates, and who knows what else.

The Great Lakes will become the new Middle East.

 

[Moonbeam]

My car runs on water every time I hydroplane.

 

[Harvey]

< sarcasm >

George Bush believes he walks on water. No reason cars shouldn't run on it.

< /sarcasm >

 

[RichPLS]

Quick "back of the envelope" calculation gives:

Sunlight: very roughly 1kw/m^2

1 hp: = .75kw

100 hp engine therefore needs (if cells were 100% efficient instead of 12%) about
750kw and therefore about 750 square meters. (and of the array were square, that would be about 27 meters on a side...
or about 88 feet on a side.)

Nope, doesn't fit on my car roof.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: KidViciou$
wow, that's an embarassing website. that alone makes me think this is a big sham

So you judge the value of a scientific advancement by the quality of the website? Well I think between this and the first post you have all given us a good example of how intelligent you are. Please take a sharpie and write stupid on your forehead so those that don't have the advantage of reading your posts on here know in advance what to think of what you say. Thank you, drive through.

 

[sandorski]

Mark your calenders folks. Early November I'll announce the Cure for Cancer!!

I'll get right on it!!

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: Train
If people start driving cars that run on water, I wonder how long it will takes before we see $60 barrels of fresh water? Receding coastlines, rainy seasons in normally dry climates, and who knows what else.

The Great Lakes will become the new Middle East.

Hydrogen can be produced in two ways, one is decarburation of natural gas, the other is through electrolysis of water. The latter is a huge energy consumer; but once the electrical infrastructure is in place we could have an alternative energy source.

Desalination (removal of salt from water) and hydrogen fuel cells are very similar technologies in principle, once hydrogen cells become economically viable (oil rises, cheaper design) we will also see demand for pure water go up, desalination will fill this void.

Again, this all comes down to Abundant energy, like nuclear power and cost effective hydrogen cells.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Quite a feet if it's true. Something just doesn't quite ring true though.

Why look for investors? Why not just patent the idea and licence the technology? Let somebody else worry about the start up, manufacturing, marketing, etc, costs? Get a piece of every unit sold. Make more money with less risk.

But wow... that would be cool if the guy is for real. Now to figure out how to keep the water from freezing when it's -40 up here.

 

[KidViciou$]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: KidViciou$
wow, that's an embarassing website. that alone makes me think this is a big sham

So you judge the value of a scientific advancement by the quality of the website? Well I think between this and the first post you have all given us a good example of how intelligent you are. Please take a sharpie and write stupid on your forehead so those that don't have the advantage of reading your posts on here know in advance what to think of what you say. Thank you, drive through.

no, i judged it by the content of that website. btw, if they are such great technology providers, with a team of developers, why the hell couldn't they develop a decent website???

the fact that they were unable to do so, and the fact that this is such an old article makes me think it was a scam. welcome to the world of logical deduction, don't be frightened, you'll get used to thinknig things through

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Train
If people start driving cars that run on water, I wonder how long it will takes before we see $60 barrels of fresh water? Receding coastlines, rainy seasons in normally dry climates, and who knows what else.

The Great Lakes will become the new Middle East.

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