CATs 8.10 Drivers Released

[Hauk]

Originally posted by: Aberforth

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster

Originally posted by: firewolfsm
I have a Zalman anyways, not really very useful for me. Is performance up at all?

+1. I dont think there is any performance improvements but a few bugs fixed that is totally irrelevant to me. Hence why im still using 8.8s..

I got 3 extra fps in warhead.

I got an extra 76 points on Vantage..

 

[coolpurplefan]

It seems with the older driver for the HD 4670, I had some lag in Quicktime movie trailers where I saw someone's lips moving and only heard the sound like half a second later. With the new driver, it's seems better. That images refreshing block by block for half a second thing while installing UT2004 is still there. It's minor but just makes me wonder. Another thing, while viewing the menu inside Quicktime, I see some flickering. (WinXP)

Anywhoo, the new browser pop ups I see now are making me insane. I saw one for 3DMark06 and I feel like storming people's offices. Net neutrality is not just an issue, pop ups from hell that were designed to go around your pop up blocker are just mental harrassment pure and simple.

 

[TheUnk]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
I don't think that manual fan control works properly, my temperature has been as high as 85C with setting that yields higher % than default (22%)

My idle temp is always 85c in auto on the first core =/

edit: I was actually running 8.10 betas.. I installed the officials and now my idle temp dropped down to 70c when idle! Nice.

.. Now down to 67c, 66c....

The fan speed remains the same though. I wonder how they managed that. Me likey.

 

[faxon]

for anyone that was using an HD4670 (sapphire specifically), and didnt have a GPU temperature monitor with the drivers that came on your CD, did the 8.10 release fix this issue? i was looking forward to doing some minor overclocking of my 4670 once i got everything set up but when i noticed i didnt have a temperature monitor in drivers i didnt bother. figured i wouldnt bother with rivatuner either since i wouldnt be overclocking the card much anyway. it already runs fine 95% of the time in ET:QW at 1240x1024 at maxed everything with 4xAA/16xAF

ed: also, why isnt the ATI site listing a driver download for HD4670 yet? they only have it listed for the 4870 and 4850, and all their older cards. what gives!

 

[Modular]

For those of you who want more comprehensive fan control, ie: the ability to have the fan idle at a higher RPM than stock, but not so high that it's audible, you can do this via Rivatuner. I just run my 4850 @ 65% at all times. While it is definitely audible, it's not that big a deal as it's in the same room as an old Dell 4600. Anyone that ever had that tower knows that the case fan in that thing is louder than any PC component to be released to date

 

[CrystalBay]

also, why isnt the ATI site listing a driver download for HD4670 yet? they only have it listed for the 4870 and 4850, and all their older cards. what gives!

Read the release notes your product is fully supported, their website is not.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: soybeast
holy crap, you don't have to uninstall the old drivers OR reboot! that's friggin amazing. ati's drivers have come a long long way! (Vista 64 here btw)

Where did you see this? According to the Install page for Radeon cards you still have to uninstall everything.

I DL'd and will try later. Currently having no problems, but better/auto fan control is something I do want. I refuse to use profiles that I have to manually set before beginning a game. For what I paid for this card, it should make me a sammich during the darn game! Profiles...*grumble-grumble*

*edit*
AMD's link for Radeon points to the Radeon AIW page. I'm researching now.

*more edit*
The release notes don't say anything about not having to uninstall first. I'm not taking any chances; I'll be uninstalling first.

 

[soybeast]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: soybeast
holy crap, you don't have to uninstall the old drivers OR reboot! that's friggin amazing. ati's drivers have come a long long way! (Vista 64 here btw)

Where did you see this? According to the Install page for Radeon cards you still have to uninstall everything.

I DL'd and will try later. Currently having no problems, but better/auto fan control is something I do want. I refuse to use profiles that I have to manually set before beginning a game. For what I paid for this card, it should make me a sammich during the darn game! Profiles...*grumble-grumble*

*edit*
AMD's link for Radeon points to the Radeon AIW page. I'm researching now.

*more edit*
The release notes don't say anything about not having to uninstall first. I'm not taking any chances; I'll be uninstalling first.

Just my own experience installing this driver. Usually when you install a new ati driver, it will prompt you that have you uninstall the old one before you can install the new one. Not this time though.....

As for the not needing a reboot, I did a little research and found that that's probably more attributable to the fact that Vista can restart and reload drivers independently of the rest of the system. Ya I know, Vista actually doing something useful!

 

[lavaheadache]

Originally posted by: soybeast

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: soybeast
holy crap, you don't have to uninstall the old drivers OR reboot! that's friggin amazing. ati's drivers have come a long long way! (Vista 64 here btw)

Where did you see this? According to the Install page for Radeon cards you still have to uninstall everything.

I DL'd and will try later. Currently having no problems, but better/auto fan control is something I do want. I refuse to use profiles that I have to manually set before beginning a game. For what I paid for this card, it should make me a sammich during the darn game! Profiles...*grumble-grumble*

*edit*
AMD's link for Radeon points to the Radeon AIW page. I'm researching now.

*more edit*
The release notes don't say anything about not having to uninstall first. I'm not taking any chances; I'll be uninstalling first.

Just my own experience installing this driver. Usually when you install a new ati driver, it will prompt you that have you uninstall the old one before you can install the new one. Not this time though.....

As for the not needing a reboot, I did a little research and found that that's probably more attributable to the fact that Vista can restart and reload drivers independently of the rest of the system. Ya I know, Vista actually doing something useful!

Just for shits and giggles, I didn't uninstall or reboot anything during the install of these drivers. Everything went perfectly until I started up warhead got all the way in even 2 seconds of play. Blue screened out. When I rebooted everything went perfectly again. I would say it safe to say you should reboot after the installation of new drivers

 

[MichaelD]

Thanks for clarifying, Soybeast. I'm not brave enough to try not uninstalling...I really don't want to wipe/reload if something goes wrong.

I may wait awhile before installing the new CATs; I'm not having any game issues at all (Clear Sky, GoW, Crysis, UT3, COD4, The Witcher) and I didn't see any game improvements listed (for my games). Maybe this weekend. Maybe.

 

[coolpurplefan]

If anyone is having Blu-Ray issues can you say which card you have?

 

[daw123]

Well, I was having random feeezes (somteimes within a couple of minutes of boot up) with CCC 8.9 and the fan hack. It was weird because for the first 4 days after installing the card, I had no problems.

Installed CCC 8.10, manually increased fan speed up to 100% and I've had the computer running for 12+ hours without freezing. It seems to have sorted out the problems (crosses fingers).

btw I uninstalled the drivers and CCC in safe mode, rebooted then installed the new CCC and drivers, then rebooted again. I am running Win XP though.

 

[zephyrprime]

Hmmm...won't even install for me. The install program crashes a little while after I select "default" installation. I'm running on vista 64bit.

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Hmmm...won't even install for me. The install program crashes a little while after I select "default" installation. I'm running on vista 64bit.

What I do like always(in Vista x64) is remove the old AMD/ATI drivers via Program/Features icon , then reboot and install the new drivers, lastly reboot one more time to complete installation.

 

[supastar1568]

Originally posted by: Mem

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Hmmm...won't even install for me. The install program crashes a little while after I select "default" installation. I'm running on vista 64bit.

What I do like always(in Vista x64) is remove the old AMD/ATI drivers via Program/Features icon , then reboot and install the new drivers, lastly reboot one more time to complete installation.

Is that because after the first reboot you get a "driver did not install correctly" message?

I got that one both 8.7's and 8.8's

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: supastar1568

Originally posted by: Mem

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Hmmm...won't even install for me. The install program crashes a little while after I select "default" installation. I'm running on vista 64bit.

What I do like always(in Vista x64) is remove the old AMD/ATI drivers via Program/Features icon , then reboot and install the new drivers, lastly reboot one more time to complete installation.

Is that because after the first reboot you get a "driver did not install correctly" message?

I got that one both 8.7's and 8.8's

No,when you uninstall the old drivers it asks for a reboot right after,once I install the new drivers(after the first reboot) it asks for another reboot.

 

[MichaelD]

For about the past 9 months or so, I use Revo Uninstaller to uninstall things. It really is great. It runs the program's own uninstall utility and gives you options on how deep you want to dig in the registry to uninstall whatever is leftover.

I have used it to install NVidia cards after having an ATI installed and vice versa. If it's perfect for that, it's more than perfect for "ATI after ATI."

 

[Majic 7]

I might look at the Revo Uninstaller. I always uninstall through control panel using the ATI utility. Vista 64. I always have to reboot because it asks for one. And I have always had to reboot after installing, this time twice because the monitor wasn't getting a signal after I entered my password. That never happened before. One thing I have noticed is that the uninstall utility doesn't remove all settings. Whatever is on 3D page is reloaded and any profiles are still in there. The overclock page always gets reset to default. Maybe WAI but if this stuff is still in there what else is? Anyone else still have their native resolution after uninstalling and rebooting? Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. This time I didn't get 800 by 600 until I was installing drivers. Crap, just saw that Revo doesn't support 64 bit.

Just saw a post that said that he didn't see VPU recover in CCC for his 4850. Looked and it's gone for the 4870 X2 also. Vista thing ?

 

[Dadofamunky]

Catalyst 8.9 was a piece of crap. Wrecked all of my motion graphics, including screen savers, DVDs, QuickTime, H.264, and Blu-Ray, games, and 3dMark tests. EVERYTHING skipped. What a clusterfsck. And fan speed control? Great, but I got really burned with 8.9. I'm not too keen on doing another "upgrade" anytime soon.

 

[dguy6789]

Everything works 100% perfectly fine for me with 8.10s, just reporting that in.

 

[supastar1568]

Anyone else get that when they uninstall using the catalyst uninstaller, it still remains in my add/remove programs. This is after running driver sweeper as well.

Also, my created profiles appear after loading the new drivers for the first time, which means something is still staying on my comp.

This was for the 8.8s and 8.9s, havent tried 8.10s yet

 

[Majic 7]

Originally posted by: supastar1568
Anyone else get that when they uninstall using the catalyst uninstaller, it still remains in my add/remove programs. This is after running driver sweeper as well.

Also, my created profiles appear after loading the new drivers for the first time, which means something is still staying on my comp.

This was for the 8.8s and 8.9s, havent tried 8.10s yet

I've seen that. I think it was about 8.8. This time I looked after uninstalling 8.9 and the uninstaller was gone. See my post a few back, I've also seen profiles that were still on my computer. I've also seen people bitching that they were gone and they had to make new fan fix profiles.

 

[PG]

CCC still doesn't work in Server 2008.

 

[Spike]

Originally posted by: jaredpace

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Are the fans not automatically controlled according to GPU temperature?

yah, go figure, huh?

seems like after 20 years of making drivers and cards with fan control, they would put this on their newest top-dollar hardware.

8.6 thru 8.9 missed it, but i think it's in with 8.10 now. heheh

Actually the fans are automatically controlled with 8.9 and 8.8. With my 4870 I was doing the profile fan change for a while until I realized it was silly. At 30% I could still hear the fan but it was bearable and my idle temps where in the 60's. However when gaming they got above 100 degrees!!! I switched back to auto and now I idle at 80 and game at 84-86, all with less or equal fan noise to when I had it on 30% all the time so I'm a happy campy.

I may try the 8.10's but they don't list any clear sky fixes so I'm not sure since thats the only game I am having any problems with.

 

[SSChevy2001]

Originally posted by: Spike

Originally posted by: jaredpace

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Are the fans not automatically controlled according to GPU temperature?

yah, go figure, huh?

seems like after 20 years of making drivers and cards with fan control, they would put this on their newest top-dollar hardware.

8.6 thru 8.9 missed it, but i think it's in with 8.10 now. heheh

Actually the fans are automatically controlled with 8.9 and 8.8. With my 4870 I was doing the profile fan change for a while until I realized it was silly. At 30% I could still hear the fan but it was bearable and my idle temps where in the 60's. However when gaming they got above 100 degrees!!! I switched back to auto and now I idle at 80 and game at 84-86, all with less or equal fan noise to when I had it on 30% all the time so I'm a happy campy.

I may try the 8.10's but they don't list any clear sky fixes so I'm not sure since thats the only game I am having any problems with.

Manual fan and stock fan speeds are crap. Just lower the T min in the auto fan control, with either Rivatuner or by bios editing. I changed mine from 58 to 40.