Sheik Yerbouti
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That's such a low metric to begin with. Yet he does manage to do this, over and over.Repeating yourself while flailing even harder just makes you look dumber.
That's such a low metric to begin with. Yet he does manage to do this, over and over.Repeating yourself while flailing even harder just makes you look dumber.
Okay, if we assume that views on interracial marriage is a proxy for racism which by the way sets the bar for racism to be the hilariously low standard of whether or not people of different skin colors should be able to procreate, that would mean that as late as about 2003 a full third of the country was so hideously racist that they thought black people shouldn’t be able to marry whites.
That would mean anyone aged about 38 or older entered a job market where presumably at least one third of employers were horrendously racist towards black people. Research clearly shows that cohorts of workers who enter the job market during a recession face a lifetime earnings penalty due to the diminished job opportunities they face in a down market. (It’s harder to get that first job, which means less experience, which means worse future jobs on average) If 1/3 of employers are racist against you any sensible person would conclude that black people during that time also faced fewer job opportunities due to racism.
That means that even by your definition the significant majority of prime age black workers as defined by BLS had their wages and job prospects depressed by racism. Looks like we agree it’s still racism after all! Thanks.
Lol. You should spend less time watching Ben Shapiro videos. Otherwise you might end up as dumb as he is. I still remember him shrieking and rending his hair about how Obamacare was like the Dredd Scott decision. Hahaha.[/img]
Still didn't provide facts to counter that, for decades, Democrats have enacted policy after policy that does nothing to advance educationally and economically disadvantaged groups. Instead you shill your "everybody that doesn't agree with me is a racist" nonsense. Not sure what is a bigger failure, the war on drugs or the war on poverty? The Democrats are more concerned about importing more people into the country instead of helping those that are here.That's a whole lot of strawmen you've got there there.
The mandatory, unavoidable first step to minorities truly being equal is to recognize and directly address systemic racism. Something you deny exists and instead, accuse those who point it out of being. Not ironically, of course you just bleat the diversionary "I know you are but what am I" propaganda of the white supremacists.
Democrats offer to address that. Republicans did too, once. Now they deny it exists and have every single white supremacist org in their camp.
Your primary malfunction is that instead of talking to people and listening to their opinions, you listen to propaganda, and then project the opinion of others that that propaganda tells you believe onto those other people, and then argue with them that they fail to meet your expectations.Own myself? Stop being racist and referring to the owning of people as property, like slaves, because you think you pulled some kind of sweet internet move on a small corner of the internet. Racist.
Also, I disagree completely. Going by that graph, today, right now, racism isn't holding anyone back from achieving. Continuing to push that narrative is not helping anyone, in fact it is proving to be quite harmful. Time to give up the old thinking and change with the times.
I've posted three solid videos of people saying what I'm saying here more or less, but they are doing a better job of it. Two of them take barely 60 seconds of your time. And you haven't addressed any of them. Freeman told the truth. Shapiro crushed your argument. And the woman in the #warkaway video is a prime example of red pilling, her opening her eyes and seeing what's really happening.
I am sorry Slow but it takes a special kind of retard to 1. read owning in this context as you being the owner of yourself and 2. this being a negative thing.Own myself? Stop being racist and referring to the owning of people as property, like slaves, because you think you pulled some kind of sweet internet move on a small corner of the internet. Racist.
Also, I disagree completely. Going by that graph, today, right now, racism isn't holding anyone back from achieving. Continuing to push that narrative is not helping anyone, in fact it is proving to be quite harmful. Time to give up the old thinking and change with the times.
I've posted three solid videos of people saying what I'm saying here more or less, but they are doing a better job of it. Two of them take barely 60 seconds of your time. And you haven't addressed any of them. Freeman told the truth. Shapiro crushed your argument. And the woman in the #warkaway video is a prime example of red pilling, her opening her eyes and seeing what's really happening.
I am sorry Slow but it takes a special kind of retard to 1. read owning in this context as you being the owner of yourself and 2. this being a negative thing.
You line of reasoning implies that owning a toaster is racist.
Dude. Stop yourself. You are going full retard. Your mom would expect better from you.
Still didn't provide facts to counter that, for decades, Democrats have enacted policy after policy that does nothing to advance educationally and economically disadvantaged groups. Instead you shill your "everybody that doesn't agree with me is a racist" nonsense. Not sure what is a bigger failure, the war on drugs or the war on poverty? The Democrats are more concerned about importing more people into the country instead of helping those that are here.
#sostupidithurtsThe NBA changed their terminology. Are liberals on AT P&N still going to use such a racist term? A toaster isn't a person.
You can't sell what you don't own. It's addressing the long history of systemic racism, and how some white people openly deny it exists, while it's actually tangible in every day life.Chelsea Handler's white what?
Is she white or a semite?
When is she going to sell her Bel-Air home and donate her priviledge to the underpriviledged?
And how much priviledge did she earn making the film?
You can't sell what you don't own. It's addressing the long history of systemic racism, and how some white people openly deny it exists, while it's actually tangible in every day life.
She addresses her ability to make a documentary about privilege directly related to her own privilege.
Until we acknowledge the deeply rooted systemic racism that is still occurring, we can't heal.
And you have fucktards like slow/bull/luna/etc, denying the existence of it, or, even more laughable, claim they are victims themselves of it.
To fix any problem, you have to acknowledge it is a problem
You have to have difficult, uncomfortable conversations about that topic
Most of the time that feeling of discomfort will fall on the person in privilege
Such is the burden of having privilege, if you are willing to acknowledge it's there and it needs to be rooted out
Have that conversation. Admit there's an issue, a deeply rooted issue that will take a very long time to make amends to.
And us white folks should have zero say as to what sufficient reparations are. That's not for us to say.
It's those who were oppressed, those who were enslaved, those who were systematically pushed to the fringes of society and kept there out of fear and ignorance, those who were murdered outright for having the temerity to talk to a white person. Generations of this happening will not be fixed overnight, or even over months. It will take years, if not decades, but the first, and most important step is on us, the white folks, the ones who were historically the oppressor to own it, accept it, and accept what the oppressed deem as fair compensation.
This is on us. We owe it to the children, grandchildren, great great grandchildren and great great great grandchildren of the women and men who were brutalized at the hands of the white man. Raped by the hands of the white man, murdered by the hands of the white man, kept destitute through discriminatory housing by the hands of the white man. Kept in low paying jobs by the hands of the white man.
The above is truth, it is painful, but it is truth. No one here with any sense of dignity or honesty can refute any statement. There is categorical proof showing every single one of those events happening.
So until we openly own up to these heinous acts, we won't begin the healing process.
I'm an alcoholic, the very first thing you have to do to recover is admit there's a problem. If you don't admit that, you're never going to make it. That is literally the 1st step towards sobriety, it's the first step towards healing. You have to acknowledge the problem. Until that's done, we're stuck.
I look forward to the responses of this post.
So that's a "No" for you for constructive dialogue. Duly noted.So lets just say that magically everyone accepts that there is a "systemic racism" problem. Now what?
Does the problem magically self-fix? Does educational differences, and poverty magically fix itself and we all live in peace and harmony?
This is why people like you are full of shit. You have zero solution for what you preach, you're just virtue signaling just like the dumb bitch in the topic.
just a reminder that this is just a regurgitation of a fox news talking point.Just a reminder, white privilege doesn't exist.
So that's a "No" for you for constructive dialogue. Duly noted.
Holy fuck, you are not only stupid, but short sighted as well. It's all spelled out above you. I am not going to take your hand, walk you through what I said step by step to show you the fallacy in your reasoning and statements.No it's just pathetic - you played right into what I've said this entire time. You have no solutions, you just want racial groups to shame themselves for the problems of others and act is if it would self-fix. Things aren't that simple in life hate to break it to you.
Just look at your post again - you offer NOTHING to fix the supposed "problem". You just want whites to feel shame. That's virtue signaling 101.
Holy fuck, you are not only stupid, but short sighted as well. It's all spelled out above you. I am not going to take your hand, walk you through what I said step by step to show you the fallacy in your reasoning and statements.
To take a conspicuous but essentially useless action ostensibly to support a good cause but actually to show off how much more moral you are than everybody else.
ok, so I will spell it out for youYeap. You're the poster child of virtue signaling. No solutions. No actions. Just virtue.
Until we can get worthless saps of shit like you to understand that telling people "It's the man/system bringing you down" and creating an artificial glass ceiling we will never fix problems. YOU are the one creating the problems. Why? Because you keep telling people that they can't succeed when the reality is anything but.
Had an argument with a good friend the other weekend about white privilege. He argued many of the same things that Chelsea Handler and others have.
He's a white suburbanite, with three kids, and has a household income over $200k. I asked if he was born into a black body would he be able to make it into the middle class? Same brain, same potential, just an African American body. He said yes, he thinks he could.
To me, this shows how subtly racist the idea of "white privilege" is. It's the idea that black people are somehow inferior and incapable of becoming successful so we have to identify boogeymen to explain away why, but the only way to defeat these boogeymen is for white people to self flagellate.
All people are equal, all people are capable of success, all people have an equal propensity for good, all people have potential, and all people have agency. The idea of white privilege and systematic racism stopping people of color from earning a living wage or entering the middle class is to see them as inferior and only the good, strong, white men and women can save them!
As s0me0nesmind1 said, it's nothing more than narcissistic virtue signaling by white people with no real solutions or goals.
You can't sell what you don't own. It's addressing the long history of systemic racism, and how some white people openly deny it exists, while it's actually tangible in every day life.
She addresses her ability to make a documentary about privilege directly related to her own privilege.
Until we acknowledge the deeply rooted systemic racism that is still occurring, we can't heal.
And you have fucktards like slow/bull/luna/etc, denying the existence of it, or, even more laughable, claim they are victims themselves of it.
To fix any problem, you have to acknowledge it is a problem
You have to have difficult, uncomfortable conversations about that topic
Most of the time that feeling of discomfort will fall on the person in privilege
Such is the burden of having privilege, if you are willing to acknowledge it's there and it needs to be rooted out
Have that conversation. Admit there's an issue, a deeply rooted issue that will take a very long time to make amends to.
And us white folks should have zero say as to what sufficient reparations are. That's not for us to say.
It's those who were oppressed, those who were enslaved, those who were systematically pushed to the fringes of society and kept there out of fear and ignorance, those who were murdered outright for having the temerity to talk to a white person. Generations of this happening will not be fixed overnight, or even over months. It will take years, if not decades, but the first, and most important step is on us, the white folks, the ones who were historically the oppressor to own it, accept it, and accept what the oppressed deem as fair compensation.
This is on us. We owe it to the children, grandchildren, great great grandchildren and great great great grandchildren of the women and men who were brutalized at the hands of the white man. Raped by the hands of the white man, murdered by the hands of the white man, kept destitute through discriminatory housing by the hands of the white man. Kept in low paying jobs by the hands of the white man.
The above is truth, it is painful, but it is truth. No one here with any sense of dignity or honesty can refute any statement. There is categorical proof showing every single one of those events happening.
So until we openly own up to these heinous acts, we won't begin the healing process.
I'm an alcoholic, the very first thing you have to do to recover is admit there's a problem. If you don't admit that, you're never going to make it. That is literally the 1st step towards sobriety, it's the first step towards healing. You have to acknowledge the problem. Until that's done, we're stuck.
I look forward to the responses of this post.
I will admit that some white people have treated some black people very poorly throughout history. I will also admit that many people have treated blacks poorly throughout history. Blacks have been equated no differently than a mule or a simple animal throughout time. It's only a recent thing that they've been shown some dignity and are looked at as a human. It's sad.
However, I have never brutalized any black person. I've never raped one, I've never murdered one, and I have never kept one destitute nor have I not hired a black man because of his race. My family immigrated to this country from Norway in the 1910's or 1920's. Am I to be held responsible for these reparations? Why? I'm not responsible for the treatment of blacks that has happened since the dawn of man. I couldn't tell you how my family or ancestors treated blacks. They may have never seen one. They may have had a slave in Norway during the Viking age. Who's to know... ? You talk about us whites having to take responsibility for our behavior from generations ago, but who on the black side is going to take responsibility for the situation they are in today? Who's going to own that? Or do we turn a blind eye to Chicago? Or Detroit? Or Liberia? Or Haiti? If we're going to admit problems, it's going to have to be a two way street. Only then will we make any real progress. But all I'm really hearing is that it needs to be whites and it's a one way street only, by those who are being hypocrites. I didn't live back then, but I can't imagine what we have in Chicago is better than what it was like for them in the 1850's. Both time periods are horrible. So who's going to address that? Hint: It's not whites, nor will it be our reparations.
I find it odd that you bring up some of these points because white people have been brutalized at the hands of other people, raped, discriminated against as well throughout time, so has every group of people. Humans have been barbarians, period. It sucks. What about Zimbabwe, or South Africa today? Are those white farmers just victims of their own racism? Is it justified that they are having their lands stolen? That they are being raped and murdered today? They deserve it? I'm sure whites said blacks deserved the same back then. What are you willing to condone and condemn here?
I also find it ironic that the ones saying "let them decide the reparations" are the ones who live in their $1,000,000 home in San Francisco. I have no clue where you live, but sell you house and donate the value to a random underprivileged black in Alabama. Be a good steward and be an example for the rest of society. Or better yet, put your money where your mouth is. Not on board? Then all of what you said is drivel. Your heart is not in it yourself, and you are just yapping your gums trying to make it someone else's responsibility. Do you really want to step up to the plate? I'd welcome to discussion. I'd love to have blacks in a better position than they are today. Quite honestly, going through black parts of town scare me... I'd rather not have that environment for my children, my grand children and great great grandchildren. I'm all for doing what I can do to solve it. I've gone out of my way and spent my family's money addressing it directly within the last few months. What have you done?
I look forward to the responses of this post. If it's going to be "You're a racist", save your breath hypocrite.
So lets just say that magically everyone accepts that there is a "systemic racism" problem. Now what?
Does the problem magically self-fix? Does educational differences, and poverty magically fix itself and we all live in peace and harmony?
This is why people like you are full of shit. You have zero solution for what you preach, you're just virtue signaling just like the dumb bitch in the topic.
You cannot even begin to fix a problem until you admit you have one. (Gee, could that be why ya'll don't want to admit it?)
There are many solutions. ALL being actively hamstrung by people like you. Any time someone tries to address it, the people like spidey act like they've been victimized.
This isn't the gotchya you think it is. What it is is you being too stupid to realize that it merely exposes your own bias.