Christ! Agent Orange!!!

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Atomicus

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May 20, 2004
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To those on ATOT who care SOOOO much, does your every day life reflect your opinions on such sensitive issues?

Before you answer that, let me put on my "I thought so" expression.
 

daniel1113

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Originally posted by: DigDug
Discussion technique #2783: Insult 270 million people that you have never met. Well done.

Mr. Carrico,

And, pray tell, who are this 270 million? Finish that last homework assignment for your Hooked-on-Phonics course and then reread what I wrote. It is clear that I address those who callously and arrogantly dismiss the damage done in Vietnam either becuase (1) they see it as a justification for the preservation of their family members who were unnecessarily placed into the situation and/or (2) who feel that some people's lives are not worth as much as their own.

Originally posted by: DigDug
Once again a thread on ATOT has done nothing but serve to reveal the callousness and arrogance of our fellow Americans.

Current U.S. Population

You're right, I was wrong. The current population of the U.S. is closer to 300 million.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: CRXican
Agent Orange is my friends band

Dude, they've been around since the 70s, if its the same agent orange.

but anyway - all I can say is "poor conehead, say hello to your pop dan acroid and stay away from the ring"
 

Sheepathon

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Oct 22, 2003
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Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: DigDug
Discussion technique #2783: Insult 270 million people that you have never met. Well done.

Mr. Carrico,

And, pray tell, who are this 270 million? Finish that last homework assignment for your Hooked-on-Phonics course and then reread what I wrote. It is clear that I address those who callously and arrogantly dismiss the damage done in Vietnam either becuase (1) they see it as a justification for the preservation of their family members who were unnecessarily placed into the situation and/or (2) who feel that some people's lives are not worth as much as their own.

Originally posted by: DigDug
Once again a thread on ATOT has done nothing but serve to reveal the callousness and arrogance of our fellow Americans.

Current U.S. Population

You're right, I was wrong. The current population of the U.S. is closer to 300 million.

LOL way to pull off the equivalent to answering "I love potato chips" to "How does one go about calculating slope?"
 

ribbon13

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Feb 1, 2005
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Wow.... this thread got real stupid after I left.... oh wait.

The egotistical French of the late 60s are why this kid is messed up. And why our vets are messed up.... I don't see you directing your hate towards them.
 

mrSHEiK124

Lifer
Mar 6, 2004
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oh, just gah!
nightmares.........damn chemicals making disfigured people scaring the shiite outta me
 

gwlam12

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Apr 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: DigDug
Once again a thread on ATOT has done nothing but serve to reveal the callousness and arrogance of our fellow Americans. Most of you pipsqueaks have never left your state, let alone own a passport, yet have no problem brushing off the plight millions of people on this planet with a flick of the wrist. I see where you learn it from - the leaders of our country do the exact same thing...

When pushed into a corner, most of you bring out the "my father was there" argument as some sort of justification for the need to gas, poison and destroy generations of people, yet fail to realize that Vietnam was a situation in which WE INJECTED OURSELVES. Your "father was there" because he was a peon ruled by a selfish and arrogant leadership. The people you should view with contempt are not the poor, disfigured people of Vietnam but the scumbags who used your father as a chess piece in their political game.

I went to Vietnam this summer, and I'll tell you - they were such welcoming and warm people. Despite 1/100th of the education opportunities and experience we have here, most of the population, unlike you morons, have the intellectual depth to understand the political dynamic that led to this. They don't blame your fathers, they blame our leaders. Why don't you?

Good post.

This thread looks like it came from the Yahoo! boards.
 

UzairH

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Dec 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: DigDug
Once again a thread on ATOT has done nothing but serve to reveal the callousness and arrogance of our fellow Americans. Most of you pipsqueaks have never left your state, let alone own a passport, yet have no problem brushing off the plight millions of people on this planet with a flick of the wrist. I see where you learn it from - the leaders of our country do the exact same thing...

When pushed into a corner, most of you bring out the "my father was there" argument as some sort of justification for the need to gas, poison and destroy generations of people, yet fail to realize that Vietnam was a situation in which WE INJECTED OURSELVES. Your "father was there" because he was a peon ruled by a selfish and arrogant leadership. The people you should view with contempt are not the poor, disfigured people of Vietnam but the scumbags who used your father as a chess piece in their political game.

I went to Vietnam this summer, and I'll tell you - they were such welcoming and warm people. Despite 1/100th of the education opportunities and experience we have here, most of the population, unlike you morons, have the intellectual depth to understand the political dynamic that led to this. They don't blame your fathers, they blame our leaders. Why don't you?


Yup 100% spot-on DigDug. I don't mean to be rude to Americans, but most of you are ignorant about the world and its real issues. As a generaliztion, in any nation there are idiots, and yes, evil people. The tragedy is that the US is the sole superpower and is ruled by evil men and women, while your people are fed falsehoods to keep them in control.
 

UzairH

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And my pity for all those who remotely think this is funny or make a funny relationship with the goonies pic. How would you like to be that kid? Would you look at the guy in the pic and laugh? Would you look in the mirror and laugh? Would you laugh aloing with the kids making fun of you? Be thankful you are not like and that, and help those less fortunate.

And oh, fvck the neo-con bastards in ALL nations, whether the US or Iran or Korea or Pakistan or wherever... I am from Pakistan btw and hate the hate-mongers here, and everywhere else
 

feelingshorter

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"In 1985, a settlement of $180 million was agreed between the chemical companies and US veterans who had developed diseases linked to Agent Orange exposure."

*sigh* If anyone ACTUALY read about this then they would know that around 10k US veterans are getting money for damages. What do they mean that "no evidence that agent orange caused health" problems and birth defects? Then why the hell is the govt paying for 10k veteran's medical bill? Everyone knows that Agent Orange caused health problems, the US troops were just operation in the area and got affected, so how badly do you think the Vietnamese had it when they were directly sprayed? 'Nough said, think logicaly. Its even in the records that over 3100 Viet villages were sprayed "direcrly". There you have it.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: feelingshorter
"In 1985, a settlement of $180 million was agreed between the chemical companies and US veterans who had developed diseases linked to Agent Orange exposure."

*sigh* If anyone ACTUALY read about this then they would know that around 10k US veterans are getting money for damages. What do they mean that "no evidence that agent orange caused health" problems and birth defects? Then why the hell is the govt paying for 10k veteran's medical bill? Everyone knows that Agent Orange caused health problems, the US troops were just operation in the area and got affected, so how badly do you think the Vietnamese had it when they were directly sprayed? 'Nough said, think logicaly. Its even in the records that over 3100 Viet villages were sprayed "direcrly". There you have it.

And the Breast Implant hysteria bankrupted a major US chemical company... yet was found later to be a complete farce.

Having a consensus does not make you right. It's an illogical argument. If everyone and the government believed pink unicorns were causing cancer and spent billions to fight it, would you just go along and believe it?

Again, there is NO peer reviewed and repeated study showing ANY significant increase in diseases among vets of either Gulf war I or the Vietnam war.

And I'm still waiting for the proof that these kid's defects were caused by "Agent Orange." It is simply amazing to me that people blindly believe a few seemingly random birth defects were caused by chemicals sprayed 35+ years ago. Chemicals sprayed by a entity with very deep pockets and a guilty conscious, no less.
 

Radiation

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Originally posted by: feelingshorter
"In 1985, a settlement of $180 million was agreed between the chemical companies and US veterans who had developed diseases linked to Agent Orange exposure."

*sigh* If anyone ACTUALY read about this then they would know that around 10k US veterans are getting money for damages. What do they mean that "no evidence that agent orange caused health" problems and birth defects? Then why the hell is the govt paying for 10k veteran's medical bill? Everyone knows that Agent Orange caused health problems, the US troops were just operation in the area and got affected, so how badly do you think the Vietnamese had it when they were directly sprayed? 'Nough said, think logicaly. Its even in the records that over 3100 Viet villages were sprayed "direcrly". There you have it.

Show me where it says we are paying benefits to the children of these vets?
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: DearQT
Woah! I hope they fight this out and to the finish! :| At the very least the companies or responsible parties should clean up the mess made and left!
We should also sue gun makers every time some idiot decides to shoot someone :roll:
If they added ingredients into the bullets, such that any future offspring born to those who happened to have been shot in the past, would have hideous genetic defects, then yes, perhaps they should be sued, especially if those added ingredients and their effects were not clearly disclosed to those involved with the use of those items (bullets, in this case).
 
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