Christianity vs MAGA Christianity

repoman0

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You can’t be maga and follow Christ’s teachings.
100%. The Nazis knew this well and created their own faith movement to attempt to pull people from the church, and the deeply rooted influence of the church in Germany at the time likely made Nazism not as bad as it could have been. The new American Nazis just co-opt and bastardize the church instead but same idea.

 
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ivwshane

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I don’t think you can be Christian or at the very least a Christian leader without speaking out against MAGA Christian. The fact that there are so few doing so tells me all I need to know about that religion.
 
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Moonbeam

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I don’t think you can be Christian or at the very least a Christian leader without speaking out against MAGA Christian. The fact that there are y guestioninso few doing so tells me all I need to know about that religion.
What about render unto Caesar….? Don’t MEGA Christians worship Caesar and given themselves to him? I can’t imagine anybody having any questions about the MEGA not being Christian. The words attributed to The Son of God could not make that more explicit, in my opinion.

I have a strong feeling that Christianity is about getting right with God rather than bitching about your neighbor. Seems to me the job for a Christian is to witness the difference so that all who come in contact with that person and are’t completely emotionally dead might feel a desire to be like what they are seeing.
 

trenchfoot

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Question: Is she right?

Everywhere in conservative social media there is always a benevolent association made between God and Trump. This not a coincidence. This is how the propaganda arm of the Republican party in league with the politically corrupted clergy of the nation lead their flocks of fools to actually believe that a convicted felon, tax evader, morally and ethically barren adulterating sex abuser is sent from heaven as a messenger of The Word straight from God through Trump's forked tongue. It's simply abso-fucking-lutely amazing how the Conservative media moguls have managed to turn their people into such hypocritical deviants of their infamously celebrated False Prophet AKA the Cheeto Glazed TACO.
 

nakedfrog

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Yeah, we've already heard about these people.

"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching—'turn the other cheek'—[and] to have someone come up after to say, 'Where did you get those liberal talking points?'" Moore said.

"When the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ' ... The response would be, 'Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak," he added. "When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we're in a crisis."


And look at this MAGA-fellating piece from christianity.com (updated January 22nd, 2025, hm, interesting timeline)

Woke ascribes to the unbiblical philosophy that only two groups exist in history: The oppressed and the oppressors. Wealthy, educated, successful people are oppressors; everyone else is oppressed. To question the sacred doctrine of CRT is to be racist.

Jesus ministered to everyone crossing racial, ethnic, and national lines. We should be aware of injustice and oppression. Justice for the weak and oppressed is urged in Scripture (Isa. 1:17; Micah 6:8). God is not an elitist. He shows partiality to no one (Gal. 2:6, Eph. 6:9) — few Christians would argue otherwise.

Christians lead the world in helping the poor, elderly, widows, and orphans (Psalm 68:5) as we should. In 2021, American Christians donated over $145 Billion to charities, making Christians by far the most loving, caring people in the world, but that’s insufficient for the woke.

Wokeness teaches that we are not responsible for our own lives. We’re born privileged or oppressed. The Bible says we are personally accountable for our sins (James 1:13-15). God created us all equal. Acts 17:26 says we are all created “of one blood.” The sin of racism requires repentance, like any other sin. Wokeness replaces repentance with reparations.

 

ch33zw1z

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Yeah, we've already heard about these people.




And look at this MAGA-fellating piece from christianity.com (updated January 22nd, 2025, hm, interesting timeline)




Ironically, christianity teaches youre not responsible for your own life. An all knowing god has already created your plan
 

HomerJS

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What about render unto Caesar….? Don’t MEGA Christians worship Caesar and given themselves to him? I can’t imagine anybody having any questions about the MEGA not being Christian. The words attributed to The Son of God could not make that more explicit, in my opinion.

I have a strong feeling that Christianity is about getting right with God rather than bitching about your neighbor. Seems to me the job for a Christian is to witness the difference so that all who come in contact with that person and are’t completely emotionally dead might feel a desire to be like what they are seeing.
The point is you cannot publicaly profess your Christian beliefs and be MAGA. You are trying to blame the person pointing it our vs the transgressor. Kinda like people who point out racists are the real racists.

The render onto Caesar thing was in reference to paying taxes to the state.
 
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HomerJS

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Yeah, we've already heard about these people.




And look at this MAGA-fellating piece from christianity.com (updated January 22nd, 2025, hm, interesting timeline)



Wow. The new church of MAGAts.
 

Moonbeam

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The point is you cannot publicaly profess your Christian beliefs and be MAGA. You are trying to blame the person pointing it our vs the transgressor. Kinda like people who point out racists are the real racists.

The render onto Caesar thing was in reference to paying taxes to the state.
You mean you are not going to turn the other cheek? What about jjustice is mine saith the Lord. Are not all those MEGA pretend Christians going to burn in hell forever. Aren’t you a believer?

Isn’t the problems that you were hurt long before the Good News reached you that you have been forgiven and you are still seeking revenge, that you yourself can’t forgive and live with a bowed head? Doesn’t a believer know that racists are fucked, that they have condemned themselves to hell. Shouldn’t that be enough?
 
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HomerJS

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You mean you are not going to turn the other cheek? What about jjustice is mine saith the Lord. Are not all those MEGA pretend Christians going to burn in hell forever. Aren’t you a believer?

Isn’t the problems that you were hurt long before the Good News reached you that you have been forgiven and you are still seeking revenge, that you yourself can’t forgive and live with a bowed head? Doesn’t a believer know that racists are fucked, that they have condemned themselves to hell. Shouldn’t that be enough?
Even King David had an army.
 

Moonbeam

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Who was it that asked Jesus where his was? Are you a Christian or a Davidian.

Matthew 26:52-54

New International Version

52 “Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. 53 Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels? 54 But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen in this way?”
 
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nakedfrog

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The problem with the platitudes is that it only applies to those who choose to follow it. The no true scotsman fallacy follows to damn near anyone

Christians in the USA, and not all but way more than “enough”, have largely abandoned their own professed doctrines.
Don't see how we can be a "Christian nation" that has both homeless people and billionaires.
 

ch33zw1z

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Which churches teach that and what scripture do they cite as justification?

I was raised pentecostal evangel, specifically in the Assemblies of God denomination. These are the people involved with the satanic panic, the 700 club, jimmy swaggart, etc…

heres just one ddg search:


People in this area teach that God is the first and the last, the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end, everywhere at once, all seeing, all knowing, young earth, dinosaurs were intentionally put in the earths crust to test your faith, stuff like that.

So they simultaneously will teach this and then tell you that you have free will. That does not add up. Either God knows all, or he doesnt. They wont pick, its both.

AG + other evangelicals generally believe the same things. Same people professing that USA is a “christian nation” and want p2025 to be a success.
 

trenchfoot

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Untold number of self-professed Christians have been politically corrupted into believing that the Republican Organization is the only entity that endorses their religious freedoms, never mind that they're weaponizing these very freedoms of theirs to attack and suppress the freedoms of practitioners of the other religions of the world of whom by law supposedly have those same protections.

Ergo, whatever dictatorial powers their Republican leaders are wielding, whatever crimes against humanity and the laws of the land their leaders are perpetrating must be ecumenically supported/ignored and justified by the crafty manipulation of testament because these political opportunists are on the side of their God. It's literally a contrived marriage consummated by the Federalist Society and the Heritage Foundation.

The Christians of the nation have free will to practice their religious beliefs, yet they feel they are compelled by their religious dogma to suppress, denigrate, outlaw and gain control over everyone else's freedoms because these heathens are an existential threat to their all powerful god, of which is of course a lesson in contradiction of the highest order, yet somehow they manage to make sense of that nonsense. it's what happens when the preeminent religion of our nation is infected with the political aspirations of their deceitful leaders. Afterall, of all the people they could have supported, they endorsed and elected Trump as their leader.
 
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Moonbeam

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Untold number of self-professed Christians have been politically corrupted into believing that the Republican Organization is the only entity that endorses their religious freedoms, never mind that they're weaponizing these very freedoms of theirs to attack and suppress the freedoms of practitioners of the other religions of the world of whom by law supposedly have those same protections.

Ergo, whatever dictatorial powers their Republican leaders are wielding, whatever crimes against humanity and the laws of the land their leaders are perpetrating must be ecumenically supported/ignored and justified by the crafty manipulation of testament because these political opportunists are on the side of their God. It's literally a contrived marriage consummated by the Federalist Society and the Heritage Foundation.

The Christians of the nation have free will to practice their religious beliefs, yet they feel they are compelled by their religious dogma to suppress, denigrate, outlaw and gain control over everyone else's freedoms because these heathens are an existential threat to their all powerful god, of which is of course a lesson in contradiction of the highest order, yet somehow they manage to make sense of that nonsense. it's what happens when the preeminent religion of our nation is infected with the political aspirations of their deceitful leaders. Afterall, of all the people they could have supported, they endorsed and elected Trump as their leader.
I’m wondering if it could be that if people are taught that the only way not to feel worthless is to belong to the one and only truth there is, no matter what it might be, and that if in being taught to understand how seriously one should take one’s identification with that only truth, one experiences a demonstration of what feeling worthless feels like such that one would have ample motivation never strays from that truth again. Seems like however much one might wish to deny having had such lessons demonstrated and however deeply one might want to forget them, if such things happened to all of us, it would account for why we act as we do, as you here so aptly and amply describe.
 

mikeymikec

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I find it interesting how that obviously MAGA author includes "educated" in their definition of woke while ignoring that MAGA is anti-education (though I suppose that ignorance is based on organised religion being anti-education too). Based on that I'm surprised that MAGA hasn't co-opted "woke" and made it their own brand, what with those educated elites and all.
 
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