And on the man, he was no different than the hate mongers from Westboro Baptist church. His hatred was just dressed in a different style of clothing, thats all.
So it is either alcoholism or religion? ROFL!!Meh, as an atheist who has absolutely no believe in any fairytales here's my take on Hitchens. He was a bitter man who could never accept the fact that lies and fairytales gave other people solace and comfort, so he turned to alcoholism.
The human mind is a delicate thing, and the desire to produce a big-brother feeling is actually an evolutionary trait, a region of the brain that when subjected to electrical impulses produces divine intervention like experiences.
It's tough to face the inevitable realization that life will come to an end. Either you are enjoying life and want it to continue in some fairytale afterlife, or you are in abject misery (like middle of the Congo) getting raped every day and want there to be some greater meaning to your horrific life experiences. In any case the idea of a big brother gives people in both situations a feeling of comfort and solace. I don't begrudge them that and I hope in my life I don't ever learn to hate such people as deeply as Hitchens did.
Now, I agree with Hitchens that organized religion has many downsides that need to be corrected, but I think between the choices of bitter alcoholics and deluded believers I would rather the majority of people believe in fairytales.
And on the man, he was no different than the hate mongers from Westboro Baptist church. His hatred was just dressed in a different style of clothing, thats all.
So, in your world well thought out logical arguments supporting your position are equal to "you're a i love you lover"?
So, in your world well thought out logical arguments supporting your position are equal to "you're a i love you lover"?
I don't have position. Dude is dead and gone. But his rants against religous people were no less ignorant than those garbage folks from Westboro.
He talked no different, sounded no different, and acted no different than they did. He just used different words. A vulture ain't an eagle, but they are still both birds.
Tautology.Insane or not real will always be real.
Tautology.The truth will always be the truth.
Doesn't make the idea sane or true either, and what anyone's mind can or cannot grasp has no bearing on the question whatsoever.Just because your mind cannot grasp the idea of an ever lasting God does not make it insane or untrue.
Or not . . . probably.Mr Hitchens is finding this out right now probably.
At last, we are in full agreement!I can't say that for sure...
Do0d, you are doing nothing but trying to judge....as I don't know his heart and I can't judge.
You're not *just* doing anything.I'm just guessing...
More like based on your own rigid and somewhat hateful beliefs that others must be eternally punished for believing differently than you do....based off of his own words.
Tautology.
Tautology.
Doesn't make the idea sane or true either, and what anyone's mind can or cannot grasp has no bearing on the question whatsoever.
Or not . . . probably.
At last, we are in full agreement!
Do0d, you are doing nothing but trying to judge.
You're not *just* doing anything.
More like based on your own rigid and somewhat hateful beliefs that others must be eternally punished for believing differently than you do.
And herein lies the key difference between us. Your God is hateful and exclusionary, vengeful and mean.
My conception of the divine, were I to dumb it down to a cartoon "God" figure, would be that "God loves us all, NO exceptions."
This must be a joke post. Atheist just like you are just as hateful, exclusionary, vengeful, and mean as the next religous zealot. You have just delusioned yourself into thinking you are better than someone who believes in God. Thats it in a nutshell.
At the end of the day I really don't care what a man believes. I never judge a person in totality either based on one belief. But atheist can just make me vomit, because at the end of the day you believe in God just the same. But your God is yourself.
It is totally appropriate that a Christopher Hitchins RIP thread turns into a religious rantfest. He'd appreciate it. He is missed, though. He'd destroy this discussion. Right or wrong, the guy had talent.
This must be a joke post. Atheist just like you are just . . . [further simplistic and ridiculously wrong-headed judgement and hate ensue . . . in the name of . . . God?][...]
I am not an atheist, but I salute and embrace Christopher Hitchens' life long pursuit of the truth, wherever it took him. We may have come down on different sides of this question, but I know an intellectually and emotionally honest man when I see one.
In pursuit of the fundamental "truth" of our existence, I would say, with a delicious irony that I believe would have this man laugh, that Christopher Hitchens and I were in the same church, just different pews.
:thumbsup:
So it is either alcoholism or religion? ROFL!!
The joke, if any, is on you.
It is just so old to keep hearing a bunch of atheists complain about religous zealots. Talk about irony.....................
Mind you there seems to be a few religious zealots here complaining about atheists.
I am not a religous zealot there superstar. This guy was a dirtbag. Plain and simple.
There is nothing wrong with being an atheist. But atheists are just as zealous as the people they attack.
One believes in his God no one can see and the other believes in his God that he sees when he looks in the mirror. And both camps are full of level headed folks and both camps are full of zealots.
This guy here was a zealot.
And you pulled that conclusion right from your nether regions as well. How many catholic priests are truly alcoholic? Do they not believe? Your speculation about Hitchens and his disease, and his bitterness, and his beliefs is pure drivel.Congratulations on have no reading comprehensions, I'm sure your parents are proud. I said that Hitchens was an alcoholic because of his inability to truly accept there would be no ever after. There are people that can accept this inevitability, I myself am currently accepting it and hope to when I'm past 80 and nearing death. However, Hitchens appears to be extremely bitter. Sure his diatribes were funny and thought provoking but in the end it seems he truly hated people that were content to believe in fairytales.
Lets all join in a toast of my good man