Clarke on 60 minutes

sandorski

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Boy this guy has a lot of finger pointing going on . . .

Bush
Rice
Wolfowitz
Rumsfeld
Clinton

That's fine but take Clinton out. 9-11 happened on the rest of them's watch.

Not only that, but he credits Clinton for thwarting a previous attempted attack.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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I think that's being a little disingenuous. Hindsight is certainly 20/20 but Clarke's criticism of Bush is not mutually exclusive from Clinton failures. In as much that Bush could have done more during 2001 . . . Clinton could have done more during the 90s.
 

nutxo

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Scew weasely

he screwed kosovo and now he acts like he knows what hes doing
 

chess9

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BBD:

You didn't come away from that brief program with enough information about the Clinton adminstration to reach any conclusion that would be accurate regarding Clinton's alleged "failure" to go after AQ. We don't know who knew what and when. We are starting to get a much better picture of what Bush and Company knew and when and the picture is not pretty. As I've said before, this happens in every administration that tries to hide the truth and manipulate the facts. Too many people know what really happened to keep the truth hidden for long. And, then there is the always reliable BOOK DEAL.

But, if blaming Clinton makes you feel as though you are being "fair", please go right ahead. Is he on the November ballot?

-Robert
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Boy this guy has a lot of finger pointing going on . . .

Bush
Rice
Wolfowitz
Rumsfeld
Clinton

That's fine but take Clinton out. 9-11 happened on the rest of them's watch.

Not only that, but he credits Clinton for thwarting a previous attempted attack.

Actually NO he credits the intel community for thwarting the millenium attack. Clarke has been extremely critical of Clinton in the past, this isnt new.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Boy this guy has a lot of finger pointing going on . . .

Bush
Rice
Wolfowitz
Rumsfeld
Clinton

That's fine but take Clinton out. 9-11 happened on the rest of them's watch.

Clarke went to Clinton in 2000, and told him to attack Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Clinton refused.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Boy this guy has a lot of finger pointing going on . . .

Bush
Rice
Wolfowitz
Rumsfeld
Clinton

That's fine but take Clinton out. 9-11 happened on the rest of them's watch.

Not only that, but he credits Clinton for thwarting a previous attempted attack.

Actually NO he credits the intel community for thwarting the millenium attack. Clarke has been extremely critical of Clinton in the past, this isnt new.

Watch it again, Clinton raised the alert level when told that something was up.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
I think that's being a little disingenuous. Hindsight is certainly 20/20 but Clarke's criticism of Bush is not mutually exclusive from Clinton failures. In as much that Bush could have done more during 2001 . . . Clinton could have done more during the 90s.

Clinton should have gone after Al Qeada in 2000 when Clarke said to. Instead Clinton told Clarke he was going to let the next admin take care of it.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Boy this guy has a lot of finger pointing going on . . .

Bush
Rice
Wolfowitz
Rumsfeld
Clinton

Hes blamed everyone but the Intel community. Even though the intel community could never pin point a location. There may not have been a cabinet level meeting, but federal agencies were debriefed about possible attacks in June and July of 2001.
 

bossanov

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After seeing Clarke on 60 Minutes, it is now clear to me why Bush and Chaney do not want to go before the 9/11 commision. A lot of truth could come out.

I maintain: " It's the Deception Stupid"

B.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: bossanov
After seeing Clarke on 60 Minutes, it is now clear to me why Bush and Chaney do not want to go before the 9/11 commision. A lot of truth could come out.

I maintain: " It's the Deception Stupid"

B.

Has Clinton gone before the commission to explain why he decided not to go after Al Qaeda in Afgahinstan when Clarke begged and pleaded him to.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Boy this guy has a lot of finger pointing going on . . .

Bush
Rice
Wolfowitz
Rumsfeld
Clinton

That's fine but take Clinton out. 9-11 happened on the rest of them's watch.

Not only that, but he credits Clinton for thwarting a previous attempted attack.

Actually NO he credits the intel community for thwarting the millenium attack. Clarke has been extremely critical of Clinton in the past, this isnt new.

Watch it again, Clinton raised the alert level when told that something was up.

Federal agencies were on alert for possible attacks. They were debriefed by the CIA in June and through July of 2001.
 

nutxo

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: nutxo
Originally posted by: Vadatajs
Originally posted by: nutxo
Scew weasely

he screwed kosovo and now he acts like he knows what hes doing

LOL, wrong Clark.


im on my back and drugged! Leave me alone

Date rape?

Nah, believe it or not Ive been hit 4 times in like 6 years, a few accidents were serious. Now I lift and engine Im fine, carry a bag of groceries and it cripples me for a few dasy

 

digitalsm

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DealMonkey

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Well, I just watched the whole interview -- delayed for us left coasters

IMO, a very damning report on the Bush administration's inability to take terrorism seriously prior to 9/11 and their bungled response after. Bush & pals dropped the ball on 9/11 and yet they have the chutzpah to make 9/11 and the WoT the centerpiece of their re-election campaign. Man oh man, that takes huevos grande. I sincerely hope a lot of Americans reassess their view of Bush's handling of this country's security in light of this . . .

I don't think Clarke will be easy to dismiss either with a 30-year career working for Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton and now Bush Jr. As the terrorism 'czar' this guy really knew what was going on. It sure makes sense all of the administration's secrecy given what an abysmal failure they've been on virtually every issue.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Well, I just watched the whole interview -- delayed for us left coasters

IMO, a very damning report on the Bush administration's inability to take terrorism seriously prior to 9/11 and their bungled response after. Bush & pals dropped the ball on 9/11 and yet they have the balls to make 9/11 and the WoT the centerpiece of their re-election campaign. Man oh man, that takes huevos grande. I sincerely hope a lot of Americans reassess their view of Bush's handling of this country's security in light of this . . .

I don't think Clarke will be easy to dismiss either with a 30-year career working for Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton and now Bush Jr. As the terrorism 'czar' this guy really knew what was going on. It sure makes sense all of the administration's secrecy given what an abysmal failure they've been on virtually every issue.

Clarke claims Condi Rice did not know who Al Qaeda was before 9/11, which is quite false. Hes going to start running into credibility problems once people go through all his book and his past comments/interviews. I will say right now, from some of the excerpts I've seen, hes contradicting some of his past statements...
 

RV6Pilot

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Does nobody get the idea that 60 minutes hates Bush and is doing their best to paint the Bush admin in a bad light? You might as well just look at that team of so called journalist's as team Kerry.

Oh by the way... The fact that Clark is releasing a book could'nt possibly have anything to do with the intervew... nah!!! must be just my bias.


It's all a game people... wake up and see it as that and whoever plays it better wins.... period!
 

DealMonkey

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Yes, I'm sure there will be a concerted YABA effort to divert, deflect and attack the integrity of Clarke. It's a foregone conclusion.
 
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