Supposedly it went into the ocean. That makes no utterly no sense at all. Anybody with basic science knowledge can see that. IF IT WENT INTO THE OCEAN WHY DIDN'T THE RATE OF OCEAN RISE ACCELERATE? Jesus Christ are you really unaware that water EXPANDS when warmed?!?!! Now that is a trick.... the heat went into the ocean and the water did not expand. Dumb as box of fucking rocks.
These climate scientists are real fucking good at explaining why their predictions miss so badly. What they aren't so good at is actually predicting anything close to reality.
that is one of the problems with that explanation for the current pause in warming. The rate of sea level rise has not changed in the last century and there are even some indications it may be slowing.
I think it is another example of how little we understand climate and how much more work there is yet to do.
What? You mean this thermal expansion?
Keep appealing to ignorance guys, if it makes you feel better.
If a normally "permanent" ice sheet is melting and breaking up into the ocean, it should be obvious why there would then be more sea ice.
If we were smart we could sell the third world US solar panels, GE wind turbines, Westinghouse advanced nuclear reactors and US natural gas, (yay business).
In the short term.
Solar requires large areas for huge amounts of power at the current level of technology so there is probably going to be only moderate construction of solar power infrastructure not counting dual use areas like solar roads and rooftops plus solar panels for individual cars and buldings and such. Wind power is probably going to see more adoption as basic power infrastructure but that also only provides so much power and the generation of such power is variable by the hour. Much of this can be managed with improved power infrastructure and technology but there is still a limit on how much power solar and wind infrastructure will provide. The goal in the long term is to transition to fusion power but until then we will need to rely on thorium and generation 3 and 4 nuclear power plants along with other possible power technologies like wave and tidal power infrastructure.
You were doing pretty good until you got to the fusion power part. We don't have fusion power, there isn't a fusion reactor running anywhere. Any solution requiring science fiction technology isn't an answer, it's a pipe dream.
Keep appealing to ignorance guys, if it makes you feel better.
Only advanced technology is going to move us past the human = CO2 equation. Problem is that's going to take decades to implement even AFTER it has matured. My reasoning suggests we have time to wait, yours can't wait... can it?
It's probably time for this thread to die. Then, 5 days from now, we can have a new thread on global warming, and those two will repeat the same misinformation again. Isn't that how the last 30 threads on this topic have gone? State "facts," be spoon fed evidence from credible sources that those facts are wrong, start new thread, restate "facts."
You were doing pretty good until you got to the fusion power part. We don't have fusion power, there isn't a fusion reactor running anywhere. Any solution requiring science fiction technology isn't an answer, it's a pipe dream.
I follow the science very closely. I know way too little about the oceans to even be able to begin to draw any conclusions
Pointing out your error isn't vitriol.You use a word to start some vitriol while ignoring the context of the word and the rest of the sentence.
Good article.
The author points out there is climate change as there has always been climate change. The article points out that there is lots of evidence that humans are affecting climate change. The article then states, that the amount of human influence versus other forms of influence to the current set of changes is "not" settled yet. That where the current trend of climate changes is going on is not "settled" either in terms of what may happen to the environment for possible damage that can't be overcome or adapted to.
The article doesn't state that humans shouldn't look for ways to reduce our impact on climate change. It doesn't get into the politics of what actions should or shouldn't be taken. It specifically states what those without a political agenda have been stating. That the whole science isn't settled, because there is just not enough we know. That there should be a continued and advancing science in figuring out what impacts, for good or bad, humans are having on the planet, and what we can do as humans to minimize any damage we may cause.
Only those whackos on either side of the political spectrum whi deny any climate change, or believe that human have completely doomed the planet irrevocably (or are close to that irrevocable limit) need to set their shit straight.
Fixed that for you
obviously since you cant understand it it cant be proven
Pointing out your error isn't vitriol.
I like to believe that "pipe dream" is a mere 100-200 years away. That it is in fact possible to control and utilize once we work out the technology to do so. It really isn't unreasonable, unless one expects it to arrive before 1,00ppm.
But of course, neither side can hear this. Beside logic and delusional wishful thinking what else is there?
I didn't see his comment as vitriol...sorry if that upsets you. Fusion may indeed become a viable energy source someday...I hope so.Well fucking shit. Good thing you were obviously one of the conservatives who was contributing to a somewhat reasonable and productive discussion we had here.
I have bad news for brain defective liberals. You guys can't let go of the notion that the CBD will respond to logic, reason, and scientific evidence because you are terrified to think that the defective will vote and govern irrationally and in the process destroy the planet, if you can't change how they think. But it is not going to happen. You are not going to change the way they think. They want to think the way they think because it scares them not to think that way so they will continue to think as they do. You listen to the facts of science regarding global warming, but you have problems seeing the facts of the CBD. These poor folk are as mentally crippled by their need to avoid the truth about global warming as you are about their need to deny reality. These are both brain defects. Until the left understands that the right is hopelessly blind and understands that attempting to change them with logic leads to certain death, and looks for some other solution, that death will come sooner rather than later. But of course, neither side can hear this. Beside logic and delusional wishful thinking what else is there?
These climate scientists are real fucking good at explaining why their predictions miss so badly. What they aren't so good at is actually predicting anything close to reality.
You should see what a safe steel beast like a 59 Bel-Aire does to a 2009 mid size plastic Chevy Malibu (22/33mpg). You want to talk about unsafe!.......
For the Bel-Aire.........
Well I'm glad I'm driving a Malibu instead of a "safe" big car.
(However our other car is a Suburban, and we feel pretty safe in it too. )
you're missing the point...
the guy in the 59 is now more compact therefore fits in to smaller areas
I like to believe that "pipe dream" is a mere 100-200 years away. That it is in fact possible to control and utilize once we work out the technology to do so. It really isn't unreasonable, unless one expects it to arrive before 1,00ppm.
I didn't see his comment as vitriol...sorry if that upsets you. Fusion may indeed become a viable energy source someday...I hope so.