CNN dumps Donna Brazile

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ivwshane

Lifer
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The best thing that could happen would be the media dropping the BothSidesDoIt™ schtick that brings in the money, and simply reporting the actual - gasp- facts.

The news should be boring.

If you're tuning into the fucking news to be entertained, then you aren't watching the news.

I wish they would just report the facts but I would like opinions on those facts, stated as such. However, having partisan hacks on who simply spew talking points is annoying and a waste of time in my opinion.
 

sportage

Lifer
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Maybe someone should give Donald an answer or two before hand.
He might not sound like such of an ass.

I'll do the deed.
Here is your heads up, Donald:
The earth is round.
The sun rises in the east and sets in the west without your help.
Grabbing a woman between her legs is not normal American behavior. What do you thing this is, France?
 

agent00f

Lifer
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The best thing that could happen would be the media dropping the BothSidesDoIt™ schtick that brings in the money, and simply reporting the actual - gasp- facts.

The news should be boring.

If you're tuning into the fucking news to be entertained, then you aren't watching the news.

I wish they would just report the facts but I would like opinions on those facts, stated as such. However, having partisan hacks on who simply spew talking points is annoying and a waste of time in my opinion.

The general problem with news is actually the same as with anything else for mass consumption, such as entertainment. The cheap stuff which satisfies the lowest common denominator like reality tv is easy, while anything worthwhile is expensive a la hbo. Except with news it's even harder to get enough people to pay the equivalent of $15/month in attention span. Even harder in the US with the GOP cutting public broadcaster (production) budgets.

A problem particular to political news is that we tend to be very stubborn about our ideals in these realms, esp when they conflict with reality. Whereas a fictional series can cater to or at least dance our tropish concepts of what certain folks should be like, most people don't enjoy it when the facts run counter to what they've long believed. This is obviously more of a problem with the right wing these days, but hardly unknown with the left. For example, the same people who condemn the nationalism of others often hold faith we're the good guys themselves.
 

agent00f

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This is the kind of insider collusion that scars the very fabric of our democracy.

Good thing clinton got out in front of this and laid it out before the public.

That's transparency folks.

If not for wikileaks nobody could've figure out that the democratic party establishment favored Clinton over an outsider. Thank goodness for russian hackers that conservatives can finally be informed of this.
 
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michal1980

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CNN still has ethics.
Good for them.

Though i wonder if they'd feel differently if it was done in the general instead of the primary.
Maybe they care more that it was Sanders who was violated.

no they don't. If they had ethics she wouldn't have worked for them.

If WikiLeaks didn't show these emails do you honestly believe CNN would have let her go?
 

ivwshane

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no they don't. If they had ethics she wouldn't have worked for them.

If WikiLeaks didn't show these emails do you honestly believe CNN would have let her go?

So now you are implying that cnn knew donna gave the Clinton's a question ahead of time but they didn't do anything about it until it was made public?

I'd ask for a source for this claim but I and everyone else know that the dumbest poster (that's you) on p&n doesn't have shit to back up his claims.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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This is just pile on stuff. Is this really earth shattering news compared to all the other shit going around. Brazille should be fired and she was. Oh yea, I get it. If she hadn't slipped the question to Hillary, Bernie would be the nominee instead. Yea, sure.

Now that wasn't going to happen on the basis of one question, but this plus the rest of the pile of crap which the DNC has turned out to be shows that Hillary was given support from what should have been a neutral entity, Democrats being "high minded" and all. Of course if Hillary was principled she would have insisted the question be tossed out. Heh, right.

Well Trump or Hillary, we will get what we deserve and heaven help us.
 

DrDoug

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The hilarious aspect of this whole thing is the arm-wavers are whining that she got a question in advance, a question...lol! Not the answer to the question, but a question that she already had an answer for. What a nontroversey... meanwhile Lewandowski travels with Trump as an advisor, I mean CNN correspondent.

Regardless, Trump is losing and Hillary is winning.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Now that wasn't going to happen on the basis of one question, but this plus the rest of the pile of crap which the DNC has turned out to be shows that Hillary was given support from what should have been a neutral entity, Democrats being "high minded" and all. Of course if Hillary was principled she would have insisted the question be tossed out. Heh, right.

Well Trump or Hillary, we will get what we deserve and heaven help us.

You still continue to live in a fairytale world. Funny how we didn't hear a peep from you when there was talk about RNC trying to stop trump from getting the nomination.

Btw, the RNC and DNC, exist to make sure their party wins and advocate for their partys platform. So I have no idea where you pulled this, should be a "neutral entity" bullshit from.
 

Perknose

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I'm not a like post kind of guys but I am willing to make an exception for this brilliant post however I do not want to get cut.

You can give a random post of mine a like and then, when next our knitting circle meets, I'll give Zin an appreciative hug for you. No need to thank me further, I'm simply solution oriented.
 

nageov3t

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Donna Brazile deserved to be fired, but does anyone actually think it had an impact on the election?

Brazile warned the Clinton campaign that there was going to be a question about the Flint water crisis... at the debate held in Flint, MI... that Hillary specifically requested to highlight the Flint water crisis.

you really don't think she would have had an answer prepared for the question without Brazile's intervention?

do we even know if Podesta passed the emails on to Clinton, or did they just get sent to his spam folder?
 

Perknose

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Well Trump or Hillary, we will get what we deserve and heaven help us.

MORE false equivalency. You must have the flexibility of an East European gymnast to bend yourself into fully equating The Big Orange Dumpster Fire with Hillary Clinton.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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MORE false equivalency. You must have the flexibility of an East European gymnast to bend yourself into fully equating The Big Orange Dumpster Fire with Hillary Clinton.

Its simply being intellectually lazy. The repubs have been throwing so much crap at the Clinton's for so long that people tune out and instead of admitting that they've tuned out they simply justify their laziness for the "both sides do it" bullshit. Its why we've had zero threads or posts from these people about an actual single Clinton policy.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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MORE false equivalency. You must have the flexibility of an East European gymnast to bend yourself into fully equating The Big Orange Dumpster Fire with Hillary Clinton.
Oh please. Most people in this nation understand and dislike both candidates. Trump is first in that regard and your favored queen is second. I'll wager you'll be "The people have decided and we have a mandate" braggart, right? No. You demonstrated that your pile smells slightly less. It's like you saying that Mussolini should win because he wasn't Hitler. Sense and decency has flown out the window because winning is everything, principles don't matter. Well at least to too many. Trump sucks and like with Hillary most of us know it. At least many admit the other shouldn't be running either and I suspect that your emperor has no clothes either galls a lot of people into self denial.

From the days of Kennedy to this. What a shameful fall.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Its simply being intellectually lazy. The repubs have been throwing so much crap at the Clinton's for so long that people tune out and instead of admitting that they've tuned out they simply justify their laziness for the "both sides do it" bullshit. Its why we've had zero threads or posts from these people about an actual single Clinton policy.

Policy? How about some decency and honesty from either candidate first? I do have a cheap bridge in Brooklyn for you folks though.

Partisans. Great.
 
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Homerboy

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Policy? How about some decency and honesty from either candidate first? I do have a cheap bridge in Brooklyn for you folks though.

Partisans. Great.

Exactly. I can't even get into either one's "policies" as I can't get past them being generally horrible human beings.
 

Perknose

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It's like you saying that Mussolini should win because he wasn't Hitler.

No, it's not. Comparing Secretary Clinton to Mussolini, get a fucking grip. That you can type such statements with a presumably straight face indicates that you have become a prisoner of you own hysterically inflamed rhetoric. :colberticonholdingasecondcolberticonforemphasis:
 

Enigmoid

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No, it's not. Comparing Secretary Clinton to Mussolini, get a fucking grip. That you can type such statements with a presumably straight face indicates that you have become a prisoner of you own hysterically inflamed rhetoric. :colberticonholdingasecondcolberticonforemphasis:
Uh no he was comparing Mussolini to Hitler.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Policy? How about some decency and honesty from either candidate first? I do have a cheap bridge in Brooklyn for you folks though.

Partisans. Great.

Lol, like I said, you live in a fairytale.

What indecency and dishonesty from Clinton has prevented you from looking and discussing her policies?
 

Perknose

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Uh no he was comparing Mussolini to Hitler.

You lack the most basic of reading comprehension. I'll let someone else explain to you how embarrassing this post of yours is for you.
 

FerrelGeek

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Ummmmm, for such a smart guy you missed the point that he was making an analogy, not a comparison. I noticed you didn't make any complaints about his (in your mind) comparing Trump to Hitler - a comparison that is completely ludicrous.

No, it's not. Comparing Secretary Clinton to Mussolini, get a fucking grip. That you can type such statements with a presumably straight face indicates that you have become a prisoner of you own hysterically inflamed rhetoric. :colberticonholdingasecondcolberticonforemphasis:
 

Jhhnn

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Its simply being intellectually lazy. The repubs have been throwing so much crap at the Clinton's for so long that people tune out and instead of admitting that they've tuned out they simply justify their laziness for the "both sides do it" bullshit. Its why we've had zero threads or posts from these people about an actual single Clinton policy.

You won't, either. Witness the post immediately following your own. It's all the vague innuendo of FUD & well propagandized head nodding. It's all "Make America Great Again", whatever that's supposed to mean. It's all idealized revisionist history of an America that never was.
 

Perknose

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Ummmmm, for such a smart guy you missed the point that he was making an analogy, not a comparison.
The analogy is ludicrous. It compares Secretary Clinton to Mussolini. That's both hysterical and ludicrous.
 
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