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hal2kilo

Lifer
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Now that wasn't going to happen on the basis of one question, but this plus the rest of the pile of crap which the DNC has turned out to be shows that Hillary was given support from what should have been a neutral entity, Democrats being "high minded" and all. Of course if Hillary was principled she would have insisted the question be tossed out. Heh, right.

Well Trump or Hillary, we will get what we deserve and heaven help us.
Where in the hell did you get the idea that a political party does not have a favorite in the wings. I don't care how much you spin this stuff, a political party is a private entity. If you don't like it start your own party.
 
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glenn1

Lifer
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The analogy is ludicrous. It compares Secretary Clinton to Mussolini. That's both hysterical and ludicrous.

No it doesn't and no he didn't. It's called an analogy and you probably did poorly on them when you took the SAT, that is if you took the SAT. Here's how it works:

Perknose:understanding as

A. moon:cheese
B. baseball:stapler
C. Hillary Clinton:ethics

Correct answer is C, the correct analogy is the person to something they don't possess. Notice that anology doesn't mean that we are comparing Perknose to Clinton, but rather each one of you separately to the concept that follows the colon.
 

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
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No it doesn't and no he didn't. It's called an analogy and you probably did poorly on them when you took the SAT, that is if you took the SAT. Here's how it works:

Perknose:understanding as

A. moon:cheese
B. baseball:stapler
C. Hillary Clinton:ethics

Correct answer is C, the correct analogy is the person to something they don't possess. Notice that anology doesn't mean that we are comparing Perknose to Clinton, but rather each one of you separately to the concept that follows the colon.
Lol, sport, I got 779 on my first go 'round as a Junior on the SAT verbal, only prepping the night before with the pamphlet they give you. My guidance counselor told me not to expect such a high score when I took it again. As a Senior, I got an 781.

Now for the specifics. The analogy was, explicitly, Mussolini to Hitler, with Clinton as Mussolini and Trump as Hitler. So, yes, the OP was using a hysterically ludicrous analogy in which he compared Clinton to Mussolini in the context of Mussolini/Hitler being JUST LIKE Clinton/Trump.

That's hysterical, ludicrous, and wrong.

Got that? Good! Now put your pencil down, pencil head.
 

FerrelGeek

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smh. And again, you're not complaining about comparing Trump to Hitler. Whatever. So, pick any 2 undesirable candidates for an analogy. Neither are desirable.

The analogy is ludicrous. It compares Secretary Clinton to Mussolini. That's both hysterical and ludicrous.
 

Enigmoid

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Lol, sport, I got 779 on my first go 'round as a Junior on the SAT verbal, only prepping the night before with the pamphlet they give you. My guidance counselor told me not to expect such a high score when I took it again. As a Senior, I got an 781.

Now for the specifics. The analogy was, explicitly, Mussolini to Hitler, with Clinton as Mussolini and Trump as Hitler. So, yes, the OP was using a hysterically ludicrous analogy in which he compared Clinton to Mussolini in the context of Mussolini/Hitler being JUST LIKE Clinton/Trump.

That's hysterical, ludicrous, and wrong.

Got that? Good! Now put your pencil down, pencil head.

Note that Clinton and Trump are not being directly compared to Mussolini and Hitler. The comparison is between Hitler and Mussolini and how they are both terrible terrible people; one being 'better' than the other is largely meaningless. The same concept is being extended to Clinton and Trump through the use of an analogy - both are terrible candidates and the point being made is that one is hardly better than the other. Furthering the idea that it is this concept and not the people in question being compared is that fact that Mussolini and Hitler are completely replaceable as far as the argument goes. We could have Mao and Stalin and the point would still perfectly stand.

The post itself says what it is trying to show.

You demonstrated that your pile smells slightly less. It's like you saying that Mussolini should win because he wasn't Hitler.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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smh. And again, you're not complaining about comparing Trump to Hitler. Whatever. So, pick any 2 undesirable candidates for an analogy. Neither are desirable.

It's a ridiculous choice of undesirables. Mussolini and Hitler are relatively similar despots with one being absolutely more terrible. Hitler is nothing like Mussolini and Trump is, actually, nothing like Hitler.

The only honestly unlikable thing about Hillary would be her status as a "career politician," I guess? You know, god forbid we have to decide between a qualified candidate and a sentient root vegetable. When you get through the silly conspiracies and the "I wanna believe therefore it's true!" nonsense that has plagued her, her only legit problem is probably being "too qualified." Because, anything bad you have to say about her, is met by a litany of identical and far more deplorable examples with Trump.


A more honest analogy between two undesirables, without succumbing to absurd false equivalents (let's go with a hawkish, career politician?) would be like making a choice between John McCain and Mussolini.
 
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TeeJay1952

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It is a choice between Hitler (possible and wannabe) and any big city Mayor. (IMHO)
People don't realise how awful every email in a discussion looks to outsiders.
This and the Fappening show the cloud has no privacy.
 

bshole

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It's a ridiculous choice of undesirables. Mussolini and Hitler are relatively similar despots with one being absolutely more terrible. Hitler is nothing like Mussolini and Trump is, actually, nothing like Hitler.

I dunno, if Trump could have people killed and get away with it, I suspect he would. His actions are those of a sociopath absolutely devoid of empathy. I imagine he masturbates to pictures of himself every night.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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You lack the most basic of reading comprehension. I'll let someone else explain to you how embarrassing this post of yours is for you.


It called analogy. You missed it though. Let me make this simple. If Trump wins it's because you picked the person least likely to win against him, not because most people support her. You went out of your way to get the corporatist neocon and that will be your just due. If Hillary wins it will be because a nutter wound up opposing her and they held their noses and picked her instead of him.

People do not and have not liked either choices. You picked the second most disliked person and that's like people picking Mussolini over Hitler. Neither would be good choices by any stretch. You partisans killed the one person of principle, and the facts show how she was picked before the votes were cast, at least by the mainstream.

Think whatever you want but neither Hillary, Trump or people here are pulling the wool over the majority of people this election. You might love to spin this as people just loving Trump, but you can't and you know it.

Two despicable candidates and you have one of them. That's why you haven't crushed Trump, and that's on you.

I'll be interested in the spin after the election either way. Hell, the Dems are now the Reps, spinning and defending bad choices just like Bush supporters did Iraq.

So much for the high minded idealists. Democrats strangled them all.
 

Perknose

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So much for the high minded idealists. Democrats strangled them all.

I'm SO glad I don't live in your hysterically partisan-poisoned world. You love to try and position yourself as above the fray, but your words and your positions betray that LIE. Hillary Clinton is a politician, and flawed, but is NOT by any measure despicable. Donald Trump is a despicable lout, a shameless, whole cloth liar, and a world class ignoramus.

You trying to put them on the same continuum is arrant ideological bullshit, egregious rhetorical overreach. Whatever happened to your nose for the truth? Wake up and smell the bullshit you now sadly stand behind.
 
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PokerGuy

Lifer
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Any candidate even remotely reasonable would be crushing Trump in the polls right now. The fact that it's still not a 20 point lead for illary is a testament to how bad she really is.
 

PokerGuy

Lifer
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Hillary Clinton is a politician, and flawed, but is NOT by any measure despicable.

If you're trying to be funny, you succeeded, I got a good laugh out of that She is a shady scumbag and is most definitely despicable in every way.

Donald Trump is a despicable lout, a shameless, whole cloth liar, and a world class ignoramus.

No argument with that, I agree. He's still not nearly on her level of terrible though.

You trying to put them on the same continuum is arrant ideological bullshit, egregious rhetorical overreach.

Agreed, they are not on the same level, she's much worse.
 

Pens1566

Lifer
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Any candidate even remotely reasonable would be crushing Trump in the polls right now. The fact that it's still not a 20 point lead for illary is a testament to how bad she really is.

Likely not true. The country is so polarized that the days of 10%+ wins in popular vote are gone.
 

PokerGuy

Lifer
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Likely not true. The country is so polarized that the days of 10%+ wins in popular vote are gone.

The country is indeed polarized, but Trump is disliked at historical levels. There has never been a candidate less liked than he is. It should be 70-30 at this point, except for the fact that she's even worse of a human than than he is.
 

Pens1566

Lifer
Oct 11, 2005
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The country is indeed polarized, but Trump is disliked at historical levels. There has never been a candidate less liked than he is. It should be 70-30 at this point, except for the fact that she's even worse of a human than than he is.

Hey, 2/4 ain't bad!
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Any candidate even remotely reasonable would be crushing Trump in the polls right now. The fact that it's still not a 20 point lead for illary is a testament to how bad she really is.

Any Dem would be relentlessly torn down by the right wing noise machine so we'd end up with much the same or worse electoral spread regardless of who Dems run. Let's face it- Repubs really liked the idea of running against Bernie & worked to make it happen. I'm glad we spared him the abuse.

OTOH, it's not Dems' fault that Repubs have a stable full of nags & one wild mustang. Cruz? Rubio? Kasich? Jeb? All losers against Dems' strongest candidate, Hillary.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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The country is indeed polarized, but Trump is disliked at historical levels. There has never been a candidate less liked than he is. It should be 70-30 at this point, except for the fact that she's even worse of a human than than he is.

Hillary hate makes you blind, huh?
 
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Any candidate even remotely reasonable would be crushing Trump in the polls right now. The fact that it's still not a 20 point lead for illary is a testament to how bad she really is.

Or, it's a testimony to decades of successful propaganda.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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I stand with Hayabusa.
You went out of your way to get the corporatist neocon and that will be your just due.
I just wonder how brinkmanship with Russia tastes. The anti-Russia hysteria is insane around here. From reset button to nuclear button. Internet's social media has enabled humanity's baser instincts of being a pack of wolves. In this election we now face our true nature.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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Note that Clinton and Trump are not being directly compared to Mussolini and Hitler. The comparison is between Hitler and Mussolini and how they are both terrible terrible people; one being 'better' than the other is largely meaningless. The same concept is being extended to Clinton and Trump through the use of an analogy - both are terrible candidates and the point being made is that one is hardly better than the other. Furthering the idea that it is this concept and not the people in question being compared is that fact that Mussolini and Hitler are completely replaceable as far as the argument goes. We could have Mao and Stalin and the point would still perfectly stand.

The post itself says what it is trying to show.

I just wanted to note that the talking point of "clinton just as bad as trump" is how the GOP is getting the RINOs to vote for their guy despite obvious reservations. That's why they're all been reliably parroting this, only turning it up the more news of actual scams & degeneracy hit trump. Once you get people invested in that narrative, that's how you get them to overlook it even if Trump literally shoots/rapes someone on the street, because then it becomes to late to admit clinton doesn't do this. Ego/face above facts.

PR/marketing professionals are rather good at manipulating simple human minds, and prove once again they're worth the money.
 
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werepossum

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Jul 10, 2006
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I stand with Hayabusa.
You went out of your way to get the corporatist neocon and that will be your just due.
I just wonder how brinkmanship with Russia tastes. The anti-Russia hysteria is insane around here. From reset button to nuclear button. Internet's social media has enabled humanity's baser instincts of being a pack of wolves. In this election we now face our true nature.
Nah, no brinksmanship. This is just Putin trying to get his way without making the required donation to the Clinton Family Foundation.
 

werepossum

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The analogy is ludicrous. It compares Secretary Clinton to Mussolini. That's both hysterical and ludicrous.
Agreed. Mussolini was way more honest and transparent than Clinton.

Although they both did want to rule Libya . . .
 

agent00f

Lifer
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Agreed. Mussolini was way more honest and transparent than Clinton.

Although they both did want to rule Libya . . .

Case in point this guy who'd probably vote for Mussolini over Clinton, for the same reason as Trump.

Now that wasn't going to happen on the basis of one question, but this plus the rest of the pile of crap which the DNC has turned out to be shows that Hillary was given support from what should have been a neutral entity, Democrats being "high minded" and all. Of course if Hillary was principled she would have insisted the question be tossed out. Heh, right.

Well Trump or Hillary, we will get what we deserve and heaven help us.

The DNC is a private org free to choose whoever they want however they want, not unlike your workplace favoring someone other than you for leadership positions, all quite unfairly I presume.
 
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