Coca-Cola C2 is good.

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: Brule

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
why not use splenda its 1000x better than the other artificial crap

Agree 100 percent. Hopefully it will move to more and more markets. Right now they make some really good ice cream bars with it, for example.

They probably don't use splenda because they're cheapasses and it's relatively expensive compared to aspartame or saccharin.

Diet Rite uses splenda and it's pretty good. But it's caffiene free.

News Article:
"Sucralose

Marketed as Splenda, this substitute is sugar combined with chlorine, which prevents it from being metabolized by the body. Pepsi Edge contains Splenda and high fructose corn syrup. "No reason to suspect that sucralose causes any harm," according to CSPI."

Mmmm.........chlorine sugar

Take a Carbon chain comonly called Sucrose and replace the center carbon with a chlorine atom. Molecular shape is identical to Sucrose and hence your taste buds recognize it as sweet like sugar. Being that the Chlorine bond is sufficiently different (I believe that the bond is going to be much stronger) the body is unable to fracture the molecule and hence it will pass through unaltered and you will be none the worse for wear.

Just because it has a chlorine in it doesn't mean it's going to hurt you, after all sodium chloride has Chlorine in it as well (a bond that is severed in water).

Now aspartame on the other hand breaks down into wood alchohol and formaldehyde at body temperature, and how many of you eat stuff with that sh!t in every day?

 

[Babbles]

So I decided to try some of this C2 stuff. Not too bad. Too me it tastes like they just mixed in a bit of 'real' Coke with Diet Coke. For diet sodas Pepsi One is my favorite by a long shot, and it still is. However I think I would drink C2 one and a while if I wanted to do a calorie splurge.

 

[Saulbadguy]

I don't even understand why Coke and Pepsi are marketing it as "lower carb.." because its still a significant amount of carbohydrates, all of which come from sugar. Its not a diet food, hence dieters will most likely not drink it, and non-dieters will most likely not drink it since it doesn't taste as good as the regular stuff. I predict a flop soon.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Its not a diet food, hence dieters will most likely not drink it, and non-dieters will most likely not drink it since it doesn't taste as good as the regular stuff. I predict a flop soon.

"Lite beer" is still being sold. You give people far too much intellectual credit.

 

[Brule]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Take a Carbon chain comonly called Sucrose and replace the center carbon with a chlorine atom. Molecular shape is identical to Sucrose and hence your taste buds recognize it as sweet like sugar. Being that the Chlorine bond is sufficiently different (I believe that the bond is going to be much stronger) the body is unable to fracture the molecule and hence it will pass through unaltered and you will be none the worse for wear.

Just because it has a chlorine in it doesn't mean it's going to hurt you, after all sodium chloride has Chlorine in it as well (a bond that is severed in water).

Now aspartame on the other hand breaks down into wood alchohol and formaldehyde at body temperature, and how many of you eat stuff with that sh!t in every day?

Exactly. The name doesn't reflect the substance. Aspartame has been shown to cause cancer in animals, but at extreme levels. Still, it is not a healthy substance. I think splenda and similar substances will slowly make their impact. It's perfect for someone like me who drinks lots of soda but doesn't need the large amount of calories. Taste is still the most important variable, otherwise we'd all be drinking v8 and water.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Brule
Taste is still the most important variable, otherwise we'd all be drinking v8 and water.

V8 is awesome. Too bad it's got so much sodium.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: Brule

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
why not use splenda its 1000x better than the other artificial crap

Agree 100 percent. Hopefully it will move to more and more markets. Right now they make some really good ice cream bars with it, for example.

They probably don't use splenda because they're cheapasses and it's relatively expensive compared to aspartame or saccharin.

Diet Rite uses splenda and it's pretty good. But it's caffiene free.

News Article:
"Sucralose

Marketed as Splenda, this substitute is sugar combined with chlorine, which prevents it from being metabolized by the body. Pepsi Edge contains Splenda and high fructose corn syrup. "No reason to suspect that sucralose causes any harm," according to CSPI."

Mmmm.........chlorine sugar

Take a Carbon chain comonly called Sucrose and replace the center carbon with a chlorine atom. Molecular shape is identical to Sucrose and hence your taste buds recognize it as sweet like sugar. Being that the Chlorine bond is sufficiently different (I believe that the bond is going to be much stronger) the body is unable to fracture the molecule and hence it will pass through unaltered and you will be none the worse for wear.

Just because it has a chlorine in it doesn't mean it's going to hurt you, after all sodium chloride has Chlorine in it as well (a bond that is severed in water).

Now aspartame on the other hand breaks down into wood alchohol and formaldehyde at body temperature, and how many of you eat stuff with that sh!t in every day?

I know....once had a bad reaction to Aspartame.....was rushed to the ER thinking I was having a heart attack.

I wasn't saying Sucralose was bad.....chlorine sugar just struck me as a very Homer Simpson thing.

 

[Slickone]

Articles claim aspartame is bad since it's made from methanol and breaks down into formic acid and formaldehyde in the body, but one article I found says the same process takes place with fruit. A few articles like this and this now clain sucralose, made with chlorine, is bad and is even partially absorbed by the body. So who knows? I wish they would come up with something for sure. Seems saccharin is the safest bet of the three afterall (for those old enough to remember the 70's cancer scare). Google on 'aspartame' and 'sucralose chlorine'.
Too bad stevia isn't cheaper or the soft drink mfg's might use it. I use it in my coffee.

For the people asking why all the low-cal stuff, remember some people just don't want to consume a bunch of sugar (especially people with blood sugar problems).

I always like the taste of Coke over Pepsi since Pepsi tasted sweeter, and maybe more flat (?) and less 'spicy' (the good Coke burn someone mentioned). So if Pepsi Edge has less sugar, does it taste more like Coke? I haven't seen either yet here in Nash., TN.

 

[DanJ]

Originally posted by: juancferrer
C2 is just a not so nasty tasting diet coke..i'ts not horrible like the 100% diet, but it's still pretty bad. I picked up a can of C2 this morning during MSU's Orientation, and i thought it was just normal coke cuz the can was red, then i took a sip and i was like WTF?? NASTY!!. I really think they should've made the can green or some other color, because if you don't look at the can, and pick a red one, it might be C2.

I feel sorry for you...MSU AOP's is hell on earth. Most boring s*it ever.

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Originally posted by: jumpr
I'm drinking a bottle right now. They have it at my local Target; it might be at yours as well. The ingredient list says it contains both high fructose corn syrup and aspartame. There are 12g of sugar in each 8 fl. oz. serving.

That is all.

i have been waiting a long time for the soft drink companies to do this.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
I don't even understand why Coke and Pepsi are marketing it as "lower carb.." because its still a significant amount of carbohydrates, all of which come from sugar. Its not a diet food, hence dieters will most likely not drink it, and non-dieters will most likely not drink it since it doesn't taste as good as the regular stuff. I predict a flop soon.

because americans are jack@sses and will take any chance to double their servings

 

[wyvrn]

I had this idea a long time ago, though I would not have used Aspartame. I would have used Splenda instead. But, it's a great way to cut half the calories out of soda, so if you do want to enjoy one once in a while, you aren't loading up on unneccessary calories. I tried a C2 yesterday, and it was imo nearly identical to Coke Classic except for a very slight aftertaste that didn't bother me. Not bad at all.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: wyvrn
I had this idea a long time ago, though I would not have used Aspartame. I would have used Splenda instead. But, it's a great way to cut half the calories out of soda, so if you do want to enjoy one once in a while, you aren't loading up on unneccessary calories. I tried a C2 yesterday, and it was imo nearly identical to Coke Classic except for a very slight aftertaste that didn't bother me. Not bad at all.

Splenda is still too expensive, I think.

 

[Babbles]

I really love splenda and but tons of it at Costco. I wish more products used that as a sweetner.

That being said, I think the so called 'bad' effects of aspartame are entirely over-hyped and without scientific grounding; an urban legend if you would.

Link

Link

Sure, you can find hundreds of websites that mention how aspartame is a big killer, but there is no actual proof of that. Not a single death of anyone can be related to aspartame.

 

[wyvrn]

Originally posted by: Babbles
I really love splenda and but tons of it at Costco. I wish more products used that as a sweetner.

That being said, I think the so called 'bad' effects of aspartame are entirely over-hyped and without scientific grounding; an urban legend if you would.

Link

Link

Sure, you can find hundreds of websites that mention how aspartame is a big killer, but there is no actual proof of that. Not a single death of anyone can be related to aspartame.

Yeah I am aware of this, same thing with MSG and other ingredients that have a bad wrap. I think Splenda tastes better than Aspartame though.

 

[zmatrix]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: Brule

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
why not use splenda its 1000x better than the other artificial crap

Agree 100 percent. Hopefully it will move to more and more markets. Right now they make some really good ice cream bars with it, for example.

They probably don't use splenda because they're cheapasses and it's relatively expensive compared to aspartame or saccharin.

Diet Rite uses splenda and it's pretty good. But it's caffiene free.

News Article:
"Sucralose

Marketed as Splenda, this substitute is sugar combined with chlorine, which prevents it from being metabolized by the body. Pepsi Edge contains Splenda and high fructose corn syrup. "No reason to suspect that sucralose causes any harm," according to CSPI."

Mmmm.........chlorine sugar

Take a Carbon chain comonly called Sucrose and replace the center carbon with a chlorine atom. Molecular shape is identical to Sucrose and hence your taste buds recognize it as sweet like sugar. Being that the Chlorine bond is sufficiently different (I believe that the bond is going to be much stronger) the body is unable to fracture the molecule and hence it will pass through unaltered and you will be none the worse for wear.

Just because it has a chlorine in it doesn't mean it's going to hurt you, after all sodium chloride has Chlorine in it as well (a bond that is severed in water).

Now aspartame on the other hand breaks down into wood alchohol and formaldehyde at body temperature, and how many of you eat stuff with that sh!t in every day?

I know....once had a bad reaction to Aspartame.....was rushed to the ER thinking I was having a heart attack.

I wasn't saying Sucralose was bad.....chlorine sugar just struck me as a very Homer Simpson thing.

I ran into this website while surfing. Aspartme seems like really bad stuff.

Link

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: wyvrn
Yeah I am aware of this, same thing with MSG and other ingredients that have a bad wrap. I think Splenda tastes better than Aspartame though.

Oh yeah, MSG has really got a bad rap but it's fine for people. I really do enjoy the taste of Splenda and prefer it to any other sweetner but I am not going to avoid drinking my Pepsi One just because it has aspartame.

In that post above this one with the link about aspartame, that is just a bunch of clueless junk science. Too many people read that B.S. and take it as honest research.

 

[Slickone]

From a link I posted earlier today.

The manufacturer claims that the chlorine added to sucralose is similar to the chlorine atom in the salt (NaCl) molecule. That is not the case. Sucralose may be more like ingesting tiny amounts of chlorinated pesticides, but we will never know without long-term, independent human research.

I suggest reading the entire page.

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: Slickone
From a link I posted earlier today.

The manufacturer claims that the chlorine added to sucralose is similar to the chlorine atom in the salt (NaCl) molecule. That is not the case. Sucralose may be more like ingesting tiny amounts of chlorinated pesticides, but we will never know without long-term, independent human research.

I suggest reading the entire page.

I read it and the guy is completely clueless.

First hint should be that he does not cite any journal publications to support his thoughts and opinions.
The guy obviously has very little understanding of chemistry. He implies that it is bad that sucralose is metabilzed, but that doen't mean anything. Your body metabilzes just about everything that enters, there is so significance at all that your body metabilzes sucralose in some fashion.

It is irresponsible of him to make the comparison between sucralose and chlorinated pesticides. Just because they both have a chlorine atom, does not mean they are poison; much like somebody mentioned how table salt has a chlorine atom in it.
More importantly, though, is the toxicity charateristics of chlorinated pesticides. They are what is called acetylcholinesterase inhibitors. Acetylcholine, as we all know, is a neurotransmitter and acetylcholinesterase is an enzyme that breaks down acyetlcholine. If this action is inhibited - a la via cholorinated pesticides - then all the muscles in your body locks up. A really bad thing to happen to your diaphragm
Anyhow, your body DOES NOT utilize sucralose in any way similar to chlorinated pesticides. Irresponsible and clueless writings from that twit.

He mentions any animal that eats chlorine is at risk for cancer. Well, the problem with this is that eating too much of anything can kill you. Duh!
Also, what is his definition of chlroine? What about table salt, NaCl? Are we talking about Chlorine gas? yeah, that stuff is pretty nasty.
Again, irresponsible on his part.

That website is a prime example of the type of innacurate material that should not be read on the internet.

For sucralose being so dangerous, you think he would cite studies from peer reviewed professional journals.

 

[Rudee]

High fructose corn syrup is one of the major reasons why North Americans are fatter than ever before. Numerous studies have linked the introduction of high fructose corn syrup to the steady increase in obesity. This stuff is nasty folks. It's a ultra cheap form of sweetner, often used as a sweetner in fruit drinks, sauces, syrups, candies. It's worse than sugar itself. I'd avoid this C2 stuff.

 

[Slickone]

http://www.hfcsfacts.com seems to say that HFCS and sugar are practically the same thing.


Babbles, thanks for your input. You seem to know what the hell you're talking about. Perhaps you should take a second to email them and let them know what you think of their website. I'd be interested to know what they say, if anything.

 

[Brule]

Chlorine can be completely safe. Even think about chlorine in its more dangerous forms. Think of pool water. I know a guy who inhaled large breath of burning PVC, filled with chlorine. It knocked him down but luckily did no major damage. Of course a few galvanized nails thrown into the equation and one won't see tomorrow.

 

[Slickone]

What are you saying about pools? The other link I posted says chlorine from pools can be bad. He also says:
"It is important to recognize that Sucralose is basically chlorinated table sugar and as such, may have many of the risks of chlorine discussed above. In addition, it is contributing to environmental chlorine pollution as well.

It is important to recognize that Sucralose is not the safe chemical it is being promoted as. I would advise caution as many have started to report adverse reactions to it."

 

[Brule]

Originally posted by: Slickone
What are you saying about pools? The other link I posted says chlorine from pools can be bad. He also says:
"It is important to recognize that Sucralose is basically chlorinated table sugar and as such, may have many of the risks of chlorine discussed above. In addition, it is contributing to environmental chlorine pollution as well.

It is important to recognize that Sucralose is not the safe chemical it is being promoted as. I would advise caution as many have started to report adverse reactions to it."

I was just saying that millions(?) of people are exposed to chlorine in pools as well as drinking supplies. It would be stupid to assume any new untested chemical would be completely safe. But it is just as bad to assume a substance is dangerous based upon one element it contains.

The link you're talking about links to a "new age" type website. This is off of the main page:

These tips will teach you how to make childbirth a serene, joyful experience rather than a tense, stressful ordeal.

He also talks about organic farming and using suppliments to treat disease instead of organized medicine. He is also selling his own book along with suppliments at the same website. The irony is that he blames greed for all the unhealthy products, yet the entire site is an ad. There may be real cocerns, but I wouldn't count on that site for them.

 

[damiano]

Originally posted by: VTEC01EX
I'll stick with current solution, which gives me the calories of a 0 oz. serving.

agreed
it's called water