Colin Powell speaks out!!!!

[quest55720]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I have trouble imaging the GOP throwing out major constituents of their base. I can not think of any examples of this happening in recent history.

I can see these groups leaving the party like the Southern Democrats became Republicans over Civil Rights.

The GOP is up the creek without a paddle... they can't alienate their southern white evangelicals, while at the same time, catering to them alienates lots of other sub groups that they'll need to reach if they want to stay relevant (i.e. the youth, hispanics, etc.).

The GOP will be a regional party for a long time to come

Soon as the bill for all the spending Bush and Obama did comes due people will vote for fiscal conservatives in record numbers. Things are going to get much worse than they are right now in the near future. Borrowing/printing trillions of dollars a year will kill this economy. The democrats and many current republicans don't have the guts to make spending cuts. That will change when the debt crushes our economy.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I have trouble imaging the GOP throwing out major constituents of their base. I can not think of any examples of this happening in recent history.

I can see these groups leaving the party like the Southern Democrats became Republicans over Civil Rights.

The GOP is up the creek without a paddle... they can't alienate their southern white evangelicals, while at the same time, catering to them alienates lots of other sub groups that they'll need to reach if they want to stay relevant (i.e. the youth, hispanics, etc.).

The GOP will be a regional party for a long time to come

If the GOP becomes the party of 28% of the voters they are in trouble.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: quest55720

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I have trouble imaging the GOP throwing out major constituents of their base. I can not think of any examples of this happening in recent history.

I can see these groups leaving the party like the Southern Democrats became Republicans over Civil Rights.

The GOP is up the creek without a paddle... they can't alienate their southern white evangelicals, while at the same time, catering to them alienates lots of other sub groups that they'll need to reach if they want to stay relevant (i.e. the youth, hispanics, etc.).

The GOP will be a regional party for a long time to come

Soon as the bill for all the spending Bush and Obama did comes due people will vote for fiscal conservatives in record numbers. Things are going to get much worse than they are right now in the near future. Borrowing/printing trillions of dollars a year will kill this economy. The democrats and many current republicans don't have the guts to make spending cuts. That will change when the debt crushes our economy.

Neo-Hooverism is going to be hard to sell to people who have lost or are scare of losing their jobs. How did the GOP economic plan for economic recovery of cutting taxes for the wealthiest and cutting spending that benefitted the everyone else go over?

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: quest55720

Soon as the bill for all the spending Bush and Obama did comes due people will vote for fiscal conservatives in record numbers. Things are going to get much worse than they are right now in the near future. Borrowing/printing trillions of dollars a year will kill this economy. The democrats and many current republicans don't have the guts to make spending cuts. That will change when the debt crushes our economy.

If you're implying the the R's will make a comeback for this reason, it's premise is based on a false choice of fiscal conservative == social conservative.

I'm a fairly socially liberal person with a very live and let live mindset but I am very socially conservative. I would still rather vote for someone that is going to spend more than I like over someone that is going to try to legislate morality.r

 

[techs]

Just saw the results of a poll flash by on the telly. Shows Americans are more favorable towards Powell than Cheney or Rush.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: techs
Just saw the results of a poll flash by on the telly. Shows Americans are more favorable towards Powell than Cheney or Rush.

The issue here is not who is more popular but who is more "Republican".

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha

Originally posted by: techs
Just saw the results of a poll flash by on the telly. Shows Americans are more favorable towards Powell than Cheney or Rush.

The issue here is not who is more popular but who is more "Republican".

Yeah, keep venerating ReTHUGlicans who are even more unpopular than the GOP Boogeyman William Ayers, see how that works out for you :laugh:

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha

Originally posted by: techs
Just saw the results of a poll flash by on the telly. Shows Americans are more favorable towards Powell than Cheney or Rush.

The issue here is not who is more popular but who is more "Republican".

I think we need to define republican first.

Are we talking about the republicans from 20 years ago?

Or the evangelical neo-cons that lead the party now?

Big difference.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: AFMatt

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Hopefully he will win over the GOP in the long run. The likes of Cheney and Fatbaugh will ensure that the Republicans slowly fade into irrelevance. I would like to be able to vote for them again once they regain their collective sanity.

Yeah, "win over the GOP" by supporting the likes of BHO last fall... :roll:

You can't blindly support a side just because it the side you are on. He picked the one he felt was best qualified to lead the nation. In this case, it happened to be a Democrat. I don't see anything wrong with that, but maybe that's just because it's how I always vote.

Who said anything about "blindy"? Oh wait - that was you. BHO stands for very little that a R would in regards to American politics(and he's proven it by the way he's let things wildly lurch leftward since taking over) yet he supported him. I didn't vote R last fall so you and moonbeam can go pound sand with your asinine assumptions about my motives for posting what I did.

Meh... you libs can keep trying to play your little games suggesting the R go left if you wish but those with more than 2 licks of sense know that it's not a winning strategy, good for the party, nor the nation.

Do you think Republicans moving further to the right on social issues is better for the nation and the party?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: AFMatt

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Hopefully he will win over the GOP in the long run. The likes of Cheney and Fatbaugh will ensure that the Republicans slowly fade into irrelevance. I would like to be able to vote for them again once they regain their collective sanity.

Yeah, "win over the GOP" by supporting the likes of BHO last fall... :roll:

You can't blindly support a side just because it the side you are on. He picked the one he felt was best qualified to lead the nation. In this case, it happened to be a Democrat. I don't see anything wrong with that, but maybe that's just because it's how I always vote.

Who said anything about "blindy"? Oh wait - that was you. BHO stands for very little that a R would in regards to American politics(and he's proven it by the way he's let things wildly lurch leftward since taking over) yet he supported him. I didn't vote R last fall so you and moonbeam can go pound sand with your asinine assumptions about my motives for posting what I did.

Meh... you libs can keep trying to play your little games suggesting the R go left if you wish but those with more than 2 licks of sense know that it's not a winning strategy, good for the party, nor the nation.

Do you think Republicans moving further to the right on social issues is better for the nation and the party?

No, nor do I think moving further to the left on social issues is better for the nation and the party.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: AFMatt

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Hopefully he will win over the GOP in the long run. The likes of Cheney and Fatbaugh will ensure that the Republicans slowly fade into irrelevance. I would like to be able to vote for them again once they regain their collective sanity.

Yeah, "win over the GOP" by supporting the likes of BHO last fall... :roll:

You can't blindly support a side just because it the side you are on. He picked the one he felt was best qualified to lead the nation. In this case, it happened to be a Democrat. I don't see anything wrong with that, but maybe that's just because it's how I always vote.

Who said anything about "blindy"? Oh wait - that was you. BHO stands for very little that a R would in regards to American politics(and he's proven it by the way he's let things wildly lurch leftward since taking over) yet he supported him. I didn't vote R last fall so you and moonbeam can go pound sand with your asinine assumptions about my motives for posting what I did.

Meh... you libs can keep trying to play your little games suggesting the R go left if you wish but those with more than 2 licks of sense know that it's not a winning strategy, good for the party, nor the nation.

Do you think Republicans moving further to the right on social issues is better for the nation and the party?

No, nor do I think moving further to the left on social issues is better for the nation and the party.

Ok, was just wondering. So you think they're spot on as it is in terms of social issues?

 

[techs]

A small, ideologically pure party that enforces strict discipline.
Where have we seen that before?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: AFMatt

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Hopefully he will win over the GOP in the long run. The likes of Cheney and Fatbaugh will ensure that the Republicans slowly fade into irrelevance. I would like to be able to vote for them again once they regain their collective sanity.

Yeah, "win over the GOP" by supporting the likes of BHO last fall... :roll:

You can't blindly support a side just because it the side you are on. He picked the one he felt was best qualified to lead the nation. In this case, it happened to be a Democrat. I don't see anything wrong with that, but maybe that's just because it's how I always vote.

Who said anything about "blindy"? Oh wait - that was you. BHO stands for very little that a R would in regards to American politics(and he's proven it by the way he's let things wildly lurch leftward since taking over) yet he supported him. I didn't vote R last fall so you and moonbeam can go pound sand with your asinine assumptions about my motives for posting what I did.

Meh... you libs can keep trying to play your little games suggesting the R go left if you wish but those with more than 2 licks of sense know that it's not a winning strategy, good for the party, nor the nation.

Do you think Republicans moving further to the right on social issues is better for the nation and the party?

No, nor do I think moving further to the left on social issues is better for the nation and the party.

Ok, was just wondering. So you think they're spot on as it is in terms of social issues?

No.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I'd choose Conservatives over milk toast supposed Republicans

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
But sure, you people can continue to call for more milk toast politicians for you in your self proclaimed "center". :roll:

LOL.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: AFMatt

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Hopefully he will win over the GOP in the long run. The likes of Cheney and Fatbaugh will ensure that the Republicans slowly fade into irrelevance. I would like to be able to vote for them again once they regain their collective sanity.

Yeah, "win over the GOP" by supporting the likes of BHO last fall... :roll:

You can't blindly support a side just because it the side you are on. He picked the one he felt was best qualified to lead the nation. In this case, it happened to be a Democrat. I don't see anything wrong with that, but maybe that's just because it's how I always vote.

I'm guessing one of your first post here.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I'd choose Conservatives over milk toast supposed Republicans

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
But sure, you people can continue to call for more milk toast politicians for you in your self proclaimed "center". :roll:

LOL.

Having a hard time reading?

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I'd choose Conservatives over milk toast supposed Republicans

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
But sure, you people can continue to call for more milk toast politicians for you in your self proclaimed "center". :roll:

LOL.

Having a hard time reading?

Not as hard a time as you are writing apparently.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I'd choose Conservatives over milk toast supposed Republicans

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
But sure, you people can continue to call for more milk toast politicians for you in your self proclaimed "center". :roll:

LOL.

Having a hard time reading?

Not as hard a time as you are writing apparently.

What exactly do you not understand about those 2 posts that you felt the need to quote them and then post nothing?

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I'd choose Conservatives over milk toast supposed Republicans

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
But sure, you people can continue to call for more milk toast politicians for you in your self proclaimed "center". :roll:

LOL.

Having a hard time reading?

Not as hard a time as you are writing apparently.

What exactly do you not understand about those 2 posts that you felt the need to quote them and then post nothing?

I don't think it has anything to do with understanding on his part...

 

[Budmantom]

Colin Powel is the soul of the GOP, is this a racial post?

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: GarfieldtheCat

Originally posted by: Siddhartha

Originally posted by: techs
Just saw the results of a poll flash by on the telly. Shows Americans are more favorable towards Powell than Cheney or Rush.

The issue here is not who is more popular but who is more "Republican".

I think we need to define republican first.

Are we talking about the republicans from 20 years ago?

Or the evangelical neo-cons that lead the party now?

Big difference.

Colin is pro-tax, abortion, bigger government, Obama...... This makes him a democrat.

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Colin is pro-tax, abortion, bigger government, Obama...... This makes him a democrat.

Your right these liberals are trying to trick you into becoming more moderate. Don't fall for it. Sometimes you just need to say "what would jesus do?" I think we all know

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: GarfieldtheCat

Originally posted by: Siddhartha

Originally posted by: techs
Just saw the results of a poll flash by on the telly. Shows Americans are more favorable towards Powell than Cheney or Rush.

The issue here is not who is more popular but who is more "Republican".

I think we need to define republican first.

Are we talking about the republicans from 20 years ago?

Or the evangelical neo-cons that lead the party now?

Big difference.

Colin is LOW-tax, abortion, smaller government, Obama...... This makes him a Republicam with brains and integrity.

Fixed for those who just make things up without knowing anything about Colin or ever having listened to him.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: GarfieldtheCat

Originally posted by: Siddhartha

Originally posted by: techs
Just saw the results of a poll flash by on the telly. Shows Americans are more favorable towards Powell than Cheney or Rush.

The issue here is not who is more popular but who is more "Republican".

I think we need to define republican first.

Are we talking about the republicans from 20 years ago?

Or the evangelical neo-cons that lead the party now?

Big difference.

Colin is pro-tax, abortion, bigger government, Obama...... This makes him a democrat.

Came back to troll some more, huh?

Go read some books and educate yourself. You don't even know what you are talking about. But you go right on believing your partisan, blindered view of life.

 

[quest55720]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: GarfieldtheCat

Originally posted by: Siddhartha

Originally posted by: techs
Just saw the results of a poll flash by on the telly. Shows Americans are more favorable towards Powell than Cheney or Rush.

The issue here is not who is more popular but who is more "Republican".

I think we need to define republican first.

Are we talking about the republicans from 20 years ago?

Or the evangelical neo-cons that lead the party now?

Big difference.

Colin is LOW-tax, abortion, smaller government, Obama...... This makes him a Republicam with brains and integrity.

Fixed for those who just make things up without knowing anything about Colin or ever having listened to him.

You must of not listened to him recently. He has recently talked how people love government services and are willing to pay for them. That makes him a pro-tax, big government democrat.