CALLER: I just wanna say, Obama is a lot smarter than you folks give him credit for. You guys were on a roll, I have to admit, with all those tea parties. Everything was rolling along, the Republicans were gaining momentum. And he managed to change your entire conversational focus. And you let those three hundred thousand people ?
LEVIN: My God. He?s so smart. His own party voted against him on Guantanamo Bay. How stupid was that, Cindy? His own party refused to fund the closing of Guantanamo Bay.
CALLER. Yeah but you know he can just move those people over here anyway. He?s already doing it with the one guy.
LEVIN: Yeah, sure, he can do whatever he wants. Let me ask you a question. Why do you hate this country?
CALLER: No, I love this country.
LEVIN: (angrily shouting) I SAID WHY DO YOU HATE MY COUNTRY?WHY DO YOU HATE MY CONSTITUTION? WHY DO YOU HATE MY DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE? You just said it. He can blow off Congress. He can do whatever he wants, right?
CALLER: Well, he seems to, he just moved (inaudible).
LEVIN: Answer me this, are you a married woman? Yes or no?
CALLER: Yes.
LEVIN: Well I don?t know why your husband doesn?t put a gun to his temple. Get the hell out of here.
Originally posted by: Lemon law
But even as a Partisan democrat...
The GOP finally have a John Wayne role model in Colin Powell to fight for the soul of the GOP. And why do I think, that most of the GOP electorate finally has a champion that expresses their views. Its about time that someone drives the GOP charlatans out of the temple. Even as a partisan democrats, I have to agree that this country needs a strong and rational GOP.
On this memorial day, I salute you Colin Powell, even if you are a true republican in the finest traditions of your party. And in an achievement filled career, this may be your finest hour.
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: AFMatt
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Hopefully he will win over the GOP in the long run. The likes of Cheney and Fatbaugh will ensure that the Republicans slowly fade into irrelevance. I would like to be able to vote for them again once they regain their collective sanity.
Yeah, "win over the GOP" by supporting the likes of BHO last fall... :roll:
You can't blindly support a side just because it the side you are on. He picked the one he felt was best qualified to lead the nation. In this case, it happened to be a Democrat. I don't see anything wrong with that, but maybe that's just because it's how I always vote.
Who said anything about "blindy"? Oh wait - that was you. BHO stands for very little that a R would in regards to American politics(and he's proven it by the way he's let things wildly lurch leftward since taking over) yet he supported him. I didn't vote R last fall so you and moonbeam can go pound sand with your asinine assumptions about my motives for posting what I did.
Meh... you libs can keep trying to play your little games suggesting the R go left if you wish but those with more than 2 licks of sense know that it's not a winning strategy, good for the party, nor the nation.
Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Lemon law
But even as a Partisan democrat...
The GOP finally have a John Wayne role model in Colin Powell to fight for the soul of the GOP. And why do I think, that most of the GOP electorate finally has a champion that expresses their views. Its about time that someone drives the GOP charlatans out of the temple. Even as a partisan democrats, I have to agree that this country needs a strong and rational GOP.
On this memorial day, I salute you Colin Powell, even if you are a true republican in the finest traditions of your party. And in an achievement filled career, this may be your finest hour.
Sorry I had to shorten up your muck to break it down.
You're a partisan!
You Like Colin cause he openly endorsed/champaigned/voted for Barak.
Colin is a Benedict Arnold to the GOP.
As a Partisan Democrat please feel free to give your opinion on why you like Colin. It only further distances him from the party he left last year.
You are foolish to call him a member of the GOP.
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Lemon law
But even as a Partisan democrat...
The GOP finally have a John Wayne role model in Colin Powell to fight for the soul of the GOP. And why do I think, that most of the GOP electorate finally has a champion that expresses their views. Its about time that someone drives the GOP charlatans out of the temple. Even as a partisan democrats, I have to agree that this country needs a strong and rational GOP.
On this memorial day, I salute you Colin Powell, even if you are a true republican in the finest traditions of your party. And in an achievement filled career, this may be your finest hour.
Sorry I had to shorten up your muck to break it down.
You're a partisan!
You Like Colin cause he openly endorsed/champaigned/voted for Barak.
Colin is a Benedict Arnold to the GOP.
As a Partisan Democrat please feel free to give your opinion on why you like Colin. It only further distances him from the party he left last year.
You are foolish to call him a member of the GOP.
At this point - what is the GOP?
Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Lemon law
But even as a Partisan democrat...
The GOP finally have a John Wayne role model in Colin Powell to fight for the soul of the GOP. And why do I think, that most of the GOP electorate finally has a champion that expresses their views. Its about time that someone drives the GOP charlatans out of the temple. Even as a partisan democrats, I have to agree that this country needs a strong and rational GOP.
On this memorial day, I salute you Colin Powell, even if you are a true republican in the finest traditions of your party. And in an achievement filled career, this may be your finest hour.
Sorry I had to shorten up your muck to break it down.
You're a partisan!
You Like Colin cause he openly endorsed/champaigned/voted for Barak.
Colin is a Benedict Arnold to the GOP.
As a Partisan Democrat please feel free to give your opinion on why you like Colin. It only further distances him from the party he left last year.
You are foolish to call him a member of the GOP.
At this point - what is the GOP?
the new breading ground for Libertarians!
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: AFMatt
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Hopefully he will win over the GOP in the long run. The likes of Cheney and Fatbaugh will ensure that the Republicans slowly fade into irrelevance. I would like to be able to vote for them again once they regain their collective sanity.
Yeah, "win over the GOP" by supporting the likes of BHO last fall... :roll:
You can't blindly support a side just because it the side you are on. He picked the one he felt was best qualified to lead the nation. In this case, it happened to be a Democrat. I don't see anything wrong with that, but maybe that's just because it's how I always vote.
Who said anything about "blindy"? Oh wait - that was you. BHO stands for very little that a R would in regards to American politics(and he's proven it by the way he's let things wildly lurch leftward since taking over) yet he supported him. I didn't vote R last fall so you and moonbeam can go pound sand with your asinine assumptions about my motives for posting what I did.
Meh... you libs can keep trying to play your little games suggesting the R go left if you wish but those with more than 2 licks of sense know that it's not a winning strategy, good for the party, nor the nation.
Originally posted by: loki8481
idk, the last time everyone listened to Powell and trusted what he said, he sold us a war in Iraq.
Originally posted by: AFMatt
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: AFMatt
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Hopefully he will win over the GOP in the long run. The likes of Cheney and Fatbaugh will ensure that the Republicans slowly fade into irrelevance. I would like to be able to vote for them again once they regain their collective sanity.
Yeah, "win over the GOP" by supporting the likes of BHO last fall... :roll:
You can't blindly support a side just because it the side you are on. He picked the one he felt was best qualified to lead the nation. In this case, it happened to be a Democrat. I don't see anything wrong with that, but maybe that's just because it's how I always vote.
Who said anything about "blindy"? Oh wait - that was you. BHO stands for very little that a R would in regards to American politics(and he's proven it by the way he's let things wildly lurch leftward since taking over) yet he supported him. I didn't vote R last fall so you and moonbeam can go pound sand with your asinine assumptions about my motives for posting what I did.
Meh... you libs can keep trying to play your little games suggesting the R go left if you wish but those with more than 2 licks of sense know that it's not a winning strategy, good for the party, nor the nation.
Oh wait, that was me? WTF? Yeah, that was me saying you cant fault someone for choosing who they think is the best to lead the country, regardless of the party they claim. If he voted for McCain, despite believing Obama was the better choice to lead the country, that would be "blindly supporting a side."
I don't care if Obama stands for very little the Rs like, maybe, and this is just a guess, but maybe Powell just simply felt Obama was better to lead the country than McCain. Oh wait, that is why he supported him. He does not hesitate to say it himself, nor does he hesitate to make it clear he is still a Republican, voted R for two decades before this election, and just because this time was different doesn't mean he changed.
I'm not sure where the other part of your response came from because I didn't make any assumptions about your motives, I can't recall a single time I agreed with moonbeam on any of his posts, and I am not a lib.
Originally posted by: EXman
You Like Colin cause he openly endorsed/champaigned/voted for Barak.
Colin is a Benedict Arnold to the GOP.
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: loki8481
idk, the last time everyone listened to Powell and trusted what he said, he sold us a war in Iraq.
Yes, that seems to be conveniently forgotten. You know, Powell could have single-handedly stopped that madness - imagine if instead of presenting his bag lies to the UN, he had publicly and loudly resigned in Feb 2003. I doubt Bush & co would have had the credibility and support to launch the war.
But he caved under political pressure and that's kinda understandable. It would have been an incredibly tough decision. What's not so understandable is that, AFAIK, he's never publicly admitted that he fucked up royally, that he was horribly, horribly wrong and made amends. That's why I don't care much for what he has to say.
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Frankly I had hoped that a way could be found, by Obama, to utilize the talents of Colin Powell, but thus far, that has not yet happened.
But even as a Partisan democrat, while I cannot regard Powell as any guru, I have to cringe at the extent that GWB&co shamelessly used Colin Powell's integrity in past.
And now I am reminded of that old John Wayne movie, in which John would have cheerfully remained neutral while some sheepheader was hung by vigilantes, but had to save the sheepheaders butt when the vigilantes kicked his son and dog. With the cryptic comments of why did you have to make me do this?
And now almost a full seven months after the GOP got their butt kicked in the election of 11/2008, the GOP finally have a John Wayne role model in Colin Powell to fight for the soul of the GOP. And even if I have zero respect for Limbaugh and Cheney, I have to accord a lot of respect for the integrity of Colin Powell who spent a lifetime in public service. And why do I think, that most of the GOP electorate finally has a champion that expresses their views. Its about time that someone drives the GOP charlatans out of the temple. Even as a partisan democrats, I have to agree that this country needs a strong and rational GOP.
On this memorial day, I salute you Colin Powell, even if you are a true republican in the finest traditions of your party. And in an achievement filled career, this may be your finest hour.
Originally posted by: Phokus
I didn't want to make a new thread for this, but this is the party of limbaugh... contrast that with Colin Powell's class:
CALLER: I just wanna say, Obama is a lot smarter than you folks give him credit for. You guys were on a roll, I have to admit, with all those tea parties. Everything was rolling along, the Republicans were gaining momentum. And he managed to change your entire conversational focus. And you let those three hundred thousand people ?
LEVIN: My God. He?s so smart. His own party voted against him on Guantanamo Bay. How stupid was that, Cindy? His own party refused to fund the closing of Guantanamo Bay.
CALLER. Yeah but you know he can just move those people over here anyway. He?s already doing it with the one guy.
LEVIN: Yeah, sure, he can do whatever he wants. Let me ask you a question. Why do you hate this country?
CALLER: No, I love this country.
LEVIN: (angrily shouting) I SAID WHY DO YOU HATE MY COUNTRY?WHY DO YOU HATE MY CONSTITUTION? WHY DO YOU HATE MY DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE? You just said it. He can blow off Congress. He can do whatever he wants, right?
CALLER: Well, he seems to, he just moved (inaudible).
LEVIN: Answer me this, are you a married woman? Yes or no?
CALLER: Yes.
LEVIN: Well I don?t know why your husband doesn?t put a gun to his temple. Get the hell out of here.
Rightwing Talk Radio.txt
http://www.newmajority.com/Sho...43a6-b85b-ac55624827e4
Originally posted by: Phokus
I honestly believe the world would be a better place if all republicans just dropped dead right now.
Originally posted by: EXman
Colin is a Benedict Arnold to the GOP.
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: AFMatt
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Hopefully he will win over the GOP in the long run. The likes of Cheney and Fatbaugh will ensure that the Republicans slowly fade into irrelevance. I would like to be able to vote for them again once they regain their collective sanity.
Yeah, "win over the GOP" by supporting the likes of BHO last fall... :roll:
You can't blindly support a side just because it the side you are on. He picked the one he felt was best qualified to lead the nation. In this case, it happened to be a Democrat. I don't see anything wrong with that, but maybe that's just because it's how I always vote.
Who said anything about "blindy"? Oh wait - that was you. BHO stands for very little that a R would in regards to American politics(and he's proven it by the way he's let things wildly lurch leftward since taking over) yet he supported him. I didn't vote R last fall so you and moonbeam can go pound sand with your asinine assumptions about my motives for posting what I did.
Meh... you libs can keep trying to play your little games suggesting the R go left if you wish but those with more than 2 licks of sense know that it's not a winning strategy, good for the party, nor the nation.
Originally posted by: Atreus21
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Frankly I had hoped that a way could be found, by Obama, to utilize the talents of Colin Powell, but thus far, that has not yet happened.
But even as a Partisan democrat, while I cannot regard Powell as any guru, I have to cringe at the extent that GWB&co shamelessly used Colin Powell's integrity in past.
And now I am reminded of that old John Wayne movie, in which John would have cheerfully remained neutral while some sheepheader was hung by vigilantes, but had to save the sheepheaders butt when the vigilantes kicked his son and dog. With the cryptic comments of why did you have to make me do this?
And now almost a full seven months after the GOP got their butt kicked in the election of 11/2008, the GOP finally have a John Wayne role model in Colin Powell to fight for the soul of the GOP. And even if I have zero respect for Limbaugh and Cheney, I have to accord a lot of respect for the integrity of Colin Powell who spent a lifetime in public service. And why do I think, that most of the GOP electorate finally has a champion that expresses their views. Its about time that someone drives the GOP charlatans out of the temple. Even as a partisan democrats, I have to agree that this country needs a strong and rational GOP.
On this memorial day, I salute you Colin Powell, even if you are a true republican in the finest traditions of your party. And in an achievement filled career, this may be your finest hour.
Once again, 52-48 is not a butt-kicking.
The simple fact of the matter is this. We haven't moved to the right, you've moved left, and now attributed our loss to us moving right. You didn't win because of the strength of your principle, but the conspiring of factors in your favor: Lack of republican leadership, and an unpopular outgoing president.
We went with a so-called moderates in 2008 and we lost big. In politics, a moderate isn't someone who is even-handed and nuetral. A moderate is someone who is indecisive. A moderate is not a leader. Obama didn't get elected by being a moderate. Neither did Reagan, neither did most presidents.
You guys desperately want this to be a realignment election, and it simply is not.
It's ironic that Limbaugh, who hated McCain, supported him during the election, and Powell, who was friends with McCain, supported Obama. It speaks volumes of the true motivation of the left and these moderates when they try to give advice to republicans.
Originally posted by: Carmen813
Originally posted by: Atreus21
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Frankly I had hoped that a way could be found, by Obama, to utilize the talents of Colin Powell, but thus far, that has not yet happened.
But even as a Partisan democrat, while I cannot regard Powell as any guru, I have to cringe at the extent that GWB&co shamelessly used Colin Powell's integrity in past.
And now I am reminded of that old John Wayne movie, in which John would have cheerfully remained neutral while some sheepheader was hung by vigilantes, but had to save the sheepheaders butt when the vigilantes kicked his son and dog. With the cryptic comments of why did you have to make me do this?
And now almost a full seven months after the GOP got their butt kicked in the election of 11/2008, the GOP finally have a John Wayne role model in Colin Powell to fight for the soul of the GOP. And even if I have zero respect for Limbaugh and Cheney, I have to accord a lot of respect for the integrity of Colin Powell who spent a lifetime in public service. And why do I think, that most of the GOP electorate finally has a champion that expresses their views. Its about time that someone drives the GOP charlatans out of the temple. Even as a partisan democrats, I have to agree that this country needs a strong and rational GOP.
On this memorial day, I salute you Colin Powell, even if you are a true republican in the finest traditions of your party. And in an achievement filled career, this may be your finest hour.
Once again, 52-48 is not a butt-kicking.
The simple fact of the matter is this. We haven't moved to the right, you've moved left, and now attributed our loss to us moving right. You didn't win because of the strength of your principle, but the conspiring of factors in your favor: Lack of republican leadership, and an unpopular outgoing president.
We went with a so-called moderates in 2008 and we lost big. In politics, a moderate isn't someone who is even-handed and nuetral. A moderate is someone who is indecisive. A moderate is not a leader. Obama didn't get elected by being a moderate. Neither did Reagan, neither did most presidents.
You guys desperately want this to be a realignment election, and it simply is not.
It's ironic that Limbaugh, who hated McCain, supported him during the election, and Powell, who was friends with McCain, supported Obama. It speaks volumes of the true motivation of the left and these moderates when they try to give advice to republicans.
I agree, 52-48 isn't a butt kicking. It was more like 53-47, and it was the largest popular vote win since Reagan, but I digress...
Losing control of the House, Senate, and White House in only two election cycles certainly is an ass kicking. Wake the fuck up.
Originally posted by: Atreus21
Once again, 52-48 is not a butt-kicking.
Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: loki8481
idk, the last time everyone listened to Powell and trusted what he said, he sold us a war in Iraq.
Yes, that seems to be conveniently forgotten. You know, Powell could have single-handedly stopped that madness - imagine if instead of presenting his bag lies to the UN, he had publicly and loudly resigned in Feb 2003. I doubt Bush & co would have had the credibility and support to launch the war.
But he caved under political pressure and that's kinda understandable. It would have been an incredibly tough decision. What's not so understandable is that, AFAIK, he's never publicly admitted that he fucked up royally, that he was horribly, horribly wrong and made amends. That's why I don't care much for what he has to say.
This - is now my opinion of Colin Powell. I used to respect him and and one point thought he would make a good president if he decided to run. Now I don't know if I can trust him.
IMHO he should have taken a principled stand and resigned in 2003.
Originally posted by: Atreus21
Originally posted by: Carmen813
Originally posted by: Atreus21
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Frankly I had hoped that a way could be found, by Obama, to utilize the talents of Colin Powell, but thus far, that has not yet happened.
But even as a Partisan democrat, while I cannot regard Powell as any guru, I have to cringe at the extent that GWB&co shamelessly used Colin Powell's integrity in past.
And now I am reminded of that old John Wayne movie, in which John would have cheerfully remained neutral while some sheepheader was hung by vigilantes, but had to save the sheepheaders butt when the vigilantes kicked his son and dog. With the cryptic comments of why did you have to make me do this?
And now almost a full seven months after the GOP got their butt kicked in the election of 11/2008, the GOP finally have a John Wayne role model in Colin Powell to fight for the soul of the GOP. And even if I have zero respect for Limbaugh and Cheney, I have to accord a lot of respect for the integrity of Colin Powell who spent a lifetime in public service. And why do I think, that most of the GOP electorate finally has a champion that expresses their views. Its about time that someone drives the GOP charlatans out of the temple. Even as a partisan democrats, I have to agree that this country needs a strong and rational GOP.
On this memorial day, I salute you Colin Powell, even if you are a true republican in the finest traditions of your party. And in an achievement filled career, this may be your finest hour.
Once again, 52-48 is not a butt-kicking.
The simple fact of the matter is this. We haven't moved to the right, you've moved left, and now attributed our loss to us moving right. You didn't win because of the strength of your principle, but the conspiring of factors in your favor: Lack of republican leadership, and an unpopular outgoing president.
We went with a so-called moderates in 2008 and we lost big. In politics, a moderate isn't someone who is even-handed and nuetral. A moderate is someone who is indecisive. A moderate is not a leader. Obama didn't get elected by being a moderate. Neither did Reagan, neither did most presidents.
You guys desperately want this to be a realignment election, and it simply is not.
It's ironic that Limbaugh, who hated McCain, supported him during the election, and Powell, who was friends with McCain, supported Obama. It speaks volumes of the true motivation of the left and these moderates when they try to give advice to republicans.
I agree, 52-48 isn't a butt kicking. It was more like 53-47, and it was the largest popular vote win since Reagan, but I digress...
Losing control of the House, Senate, and White House in only two election cycles certainly is an ass kicking. Wake the fuck up.
If 53-47 constitutes the largest popular vote win since Reagan, then it speaks well of Reagan's politics.
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: AFMatt
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Hopefully he will win over the GOP in the long run. The likes of Cheney and Fatbaugh will ensure that the Republicans slowly fade into irrelevance. I would like to be able to vote for them again once they regain their collective sanity.
Yeah, "win over the GOP" by supporting the likes of BHO last fall... :roll:
You can't blindly support a side just because it the side you are on. He picked the one he felt was best qualified to lead the nation. In this case, it happened to be a Democrat. I don't see anything wrong with that, but maybe that's just because it's how I always vote.
Who said anything about "blindy"? Oh wait - that was you. BHO stands for very little that a R would in regards to American politics(and he's proven it by the way he's let things wildly lurch leftward since taking over) yet he supported him. I didn't vote R last fall so you and moonbeam can go pound sand with your asinine assumptions about my motives for posting what I did.
Meh... you libs can keep trying to play your little games suggesting the R go left if you wish but those with more than 2 licks of sense know that it's not a winning strategy, good for the party, nor the nation.
Heh, you are the one that dismissed Powell simply because he supported 1 candidate from another party during the last election despite his long and distinguished history as a Republican. Seems pretty blind to me, but then again I was responding to a one-liner with no specific justification/explanation. The GOP as of late seems to think that banishing the moderates of its party is a path to victory, which is what the more right-wing republicans are trying to do to Powell. Ever hear of 'common ground'? To say that BHO stands for very little for what a Republican would stand for is pretty short-sighted. I don't suggest the Republicans 'go left' as you put it, only that they do not alienate the few moderates and centrists still sympathetic to their views/policies. Expanding your base, not contracting it, is the way to electoral victory.
Even within the Republican party there are quite a few differences in opinion. I live in a very red state, so I see this everyday. I'm no lib either as I've voted R many times, and would like to do so again one day. The Republicans, since losing this last election, seem to be moving farther and farther to the right as America is returning to the center. Those of us in the center are effectively being exiled to support the Democrats. If this keeps up, it will be their undoing.
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Yes, some in the GOP have woken up since Nov and are trying to return the party to it's Conservative roots since the lurch leftward has ended up losing elections and being destructive to America.
LOL either that or not to well of Carter and Mondale.Originally posted by: Atreus21
If 53-47 constitutes the largest popular vote win since Reagan, then it speaks well of Reagan's politics.