computer-brain interface

iwantanewcomputer

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The 'chip' reads brain signals
A paralysed man in the US has become the first person to benefit from a brain chip that reads his mind.

Matthew Nagle, 25, was left paralysed from the neck down and confined to a wheelchair after a knife attack in 2001.

The pioneering surgery at New England Sinai Hospital, Massachusetts, last summer means he can now control everyday objects by thought alone.

The brain chip reads his mind and sends the thoughts to a computer to decipher.

Mind over matter

He can think his TV on and off, change channels and alter the volume thanks to the technology and software linked to devices in his home.

Scientists have been working for some time to devise a way to enable paralysed people to control devices with the brain.

Studies have shown that monkeys can control a computer with electrodes implanted into their brain.


It's quite remarkable

Dr Richard Apps, neurophysiologist from Bristol University

Recently four people, two of them partly paralysed wheelchair users, were able to move a computer cursor while wearing a cap with 64 electrodes that pick up brain waves.

Mr Nagle's device, called BrainGate, consists of nearly 100 hair-thin electrodes implanted a millimetre deep into part of the motor cortex of his brain that controls movement.

Wires feed the information from the electrodes into a computer which analyses the brain signals.

The signals are interpreted and translated into cursor movements, offering the user an alternative way to control devices such as a computer with thought.

Motor control

Professor John Donoghue, an expert on neuroscience at Brown University, Rhode Island, is the scientist behind the device produced by Cyberkinetics.

He said: "The computer screen is basically a TV remote control panel, and in order to indicate a selection he merely has to pass the cursor over an icon, and that's equivalent to a click when he goes over that icon."

Mr Nagle has also been able to use thought to move a prosthetic hand and robotic arm to grab sweets from one person's hand and place them into another.

Professor Donoghue hopes that ultimately implants such as this will allow people with paralysis to regain the use of their limbs.

The long term aim is to design a package the size of a mobile phone that will run on batteries, and to electrically stimulate the patient's own muscles.

This will be difficult.

The simple movements we take for granted in fact involve complex electrical signals which will be hard to replicate, Dr Richard Apps, a neurophysiologist from Bristol University, the UK, told the BBC News website.

He said there were millions of neurones in the brain involved with movement. The brain chip taps into only a very small number of these.

But he said the work was extremely exciting.

"It's quite remarkable. They have taken research to the next stage to have a clear benefit for a patient that otherwise would not be able to move.

"It seems that they have cracked the crucial step and arguably the most challenging step to get hand movements.

"Just to be able to grasp an object is a major step forward."

He said it might be possible to hone this further to achieve finer movements of the hand.

Matthew Nagel's story is featured in a Frontiers programme on BBC Radio Four on Wednesday 13 April, 2005, at 2100 BST.


how possible is it to have the sensors read thoughts like numbers/letters instead of movements? seems like you might just be able to put the sensors in the right part of the brain and it could type things in a computer just by thinking them.

if that is possible, you may be able to make the chip understand that you want to add 2 numbers and bam!...built in calculator. also one of the biggest limitations to human thinking compared to a computer is memory. we can remember about 7 chunks of information in short term memory, whether they be numbers, words feelings etc. this could revolutionize things like portable computers and pda's too.

any thoughts?
 

Matthias99

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how possible is it to have the sensors read thoughts like numbers/letters instead of movements? seems like you might just be able to put the sensors in the right part of the brain and it could type things in a computer just by thinking them.

It's quite a bit harder, since while the neurological systems for controlling movement are fairly well-understood (and relatively straightforward), the ones for thought processes are still understood poorly at best. It might be possible to wire it up so that certain activity patterns in the motor areas are translated directly into keypresses or commands, though. It hard to say how well you would be able to 'learn' to not trigger it with voluntary movements, though.
 

krakken

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It'd still be sweet though...
Imagine, not having to learn even simple math, just having a chip installed in elementary school, and going through a weeks diagnostics..

I mean, not that simple math is so hard, but having to do it takes effort, plus, like was said, it'd be sweet to have things queued up in memory, like mental notes...
But once they did this, what's to stop them from growing computers out of our brain tissue? The key would be interface. Once they have the interface down someone could referse it and harness the awesome power we've already got for problems that computers can't even come close to...
just a thought.
 
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Originally posted by: krakken
It'd still be sweet though...
Imagine, not having to learn even simple math, just having a chip installed in elementary school, and going through a weeks diagnostics..

I mean, not that simple math is so hard, but having to do it takes effort, plus, like was said, it'd be sweet to have things queued up in memory, like mental notes...
But once they did this, what's to stop them from growing computers out of our brain tissue? The key would be interface. Once they have the interface down someone could referse it and harness the awesome power we've already got for problems that computers can't even come close to...
just a thought.


This would add a whole new meaning to the phrase "All right class, put on your thinking caps!"
 

bobsmith1492

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The only problem I've heard of with these devices is that the electrodes implanted into the brain tend to cause the growth of scar tissue, which leads to signal deterioration over time, effectively rendering the device useless. They've used these things in rats and monkeys for a while from what I've heard.
 

Toki

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Originally posted by: krakken
It'd still be sweet though...
Imagine, not having to learn even simple math, just having a chip installed in elementary school, and going through a weeks diagnostics..

I mean, not that simple math is so hard, but having to do it takes effort, plus, like was said, it'd be sweet to have things queued up in memory, like mental notes...
But once they did this, what's to stop them from growing computers out of our brain tissue? The key would be interface. Once they have the interface down someone could referse it and harness the awesome power we've already got for problems that computers can't even come close to...
just a thought.

it doesnt work that way. they use their motor cortex to receive signals from their brain. the brain does not actually receive any information, except that it can see the result. this technology can not be used to enhance the brain, but rather be used as a tool by the brain. so some of the latter things you mention should be possible, but actually putting a calculator in your brain, or using your brain for advanced problems aren't.
but this technology may just lead to someone finding a way to do that, but it doesnt prove whether it is possible or not.
 

iwantanewcomputer

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i'm sure if you wired it up in the motor cortex from childhood people could learn how to use it.
for ex. you aren't born knowing how to wiggle a finger. the brain grows neurons together and you learn how thinking certain things, what we would call thinking of wiggleing a finger, stimulates the specific nerves that lead to finger wiggling. neurons form to hardwire the motor cortex to do what you want it to.

^ not perfect, but i think it's generally the right idea. in the same way, you could figure out how to add by stimulating the neurons attached to wires connected to a calculator. like Toki said about the brain using it as a tool, same as the brain using a finger as a tool
 
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