Confirmed: al-Zarqawi was killed...

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Braznor

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Yay!!!!

Deep fry the fvcker's corpse in swine fat and feed it to the dogs.

 

Stumps

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finally the yanks get it right for a change....that monster desevered a worse death though.
 

techs

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The REAL POINT about Zarqawis death is how the Iraqis respond to it.
On Fox (where else?) they showed Iraqis 'jumping for joy' over the news of his death. However, it was only 6 guys, in an enclosed area like a courtyard, and three of them were in Iraqi police uniforms and the other three looked to also be Iraqi police in civilian clothes. Three or four people in the background seemed disinterested and were just standing around.
WHEN THE MURDERER OF THOUSANDS OF YOUR PEOPLE IS KILLED AND YOU THINK HE IS THE ENEMY YOU TAKE TO THE STREETS IN CELEBRATION AND JOY.
WHERE ARE THE SCENES OF JUBILANT IRAQIS?
I am highly disturbed that the Iraqis don't seem jubilant. It seems to indicate that Zarqawi was not considered a dangerous, evil man to most Iraqis.

The SECOND REAL POINT is that it was a tip from the Jordanians that led to his killing. After three years the US and the Iraqis couldn't find this guy but the Jordanians could. I would have been more re-assured if we found him. It would indicate we are developing decent intelligence and we have at least some support among the Iraqis.

The THIRD REAL POINT and this has been touched on, is that killing this guy won't make any real difference. After three years of setting up his murder network killing the CEO won't end the company. The next in line will just take over.

So really, it was a good thing to finally actually kill a terrorist leader, even if it took three years, but the reality is nothing will change, and it highlights how bad our situation is in Iraq.
 

CaptnKirk

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It's a miracle!

Suddenly, after years of not knowing who the boogeyman was . . . we have picture after picture, dental records,
scarifacation mapping records, finger prints, and a rap video with back-up vocals.


'al-Queda in Iraq' - this will have about as much effect on the 'Real' al-Queda as Snoop Doggie Dog has on the Bloods or the Crypts.

Now we have to manufacture a new villian to be the designated hate magnet.

Low grade, minor thug is dead though, rejoice.
 

Red Dawn

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I wonder if Al Qaeda themselves leaked the info that led to his location and death.
 

martinez

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
It's a miracle!

Suddenly, after years of not knowing who the boogeyman was . . . we have picture after picture, dental records,
scarifacation mapping records, finger prints, and a rap video with back-up vocals.


'al-Queda in Iraq' - this will have about as much effect on the 'Real' al-Queda as Snoop Doggie Dog has on the Bloods or the Crypts.

Now we have to manufacture a new villian to be the designated hate magnet.

Low grade, minor thug is dead though, rejoice.

Shhh, don't spoil their fun...
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Originally posted by: Frackal
Fantastic news! Cant wait to see how the pissing and moaning about this!

I'm more interested in seeing who will do the bitching and moaning. I just hope it moves us one more step to getting out.

Where's Bin Laden???

Same place as Waldo?


Ahh yes, I was waiting for Dmcowen, steeplerot, and rightiswrong to chime in here. You guys are so predictable!
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Originally posted by: Frackal
Fantastic news! Cant wait to see how the pissing and moaning about this!

I'm more interested in seeing who will do the bitching and moaning. I just hope it moves us one more step to getting out.

Where's Bin Laden???

Same place as Waldo?


Ahh yes, I was waiting for Dmcowen, steeplerot, and rightiswrong to chime in here. You guys are so predictable!
Actually when Bin Laden becomes a hinderence to Al Qaeda instead of an asset Al Qaeda might leak his where abouts so he too can become a Martyr.
 

RMich

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Personally, I fear when all is said and done we will have succeeded in delivering Iraq to Muqtada al-Sadr, who has got to be delighted to hear of al-Zarqawi's termination.

If the rise of an Iraqi government in which Muqtada al-Sadr is the defacto leader is the end result of all our sacrifices, is there anyone here who believes it will have been worth it? It appears to me we are in the process of trading a secular nut case (Saddam) for a radical Moslem nut case (al-Sadr).
 

Regs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I wonder if Al Qaeda themselves leaked the info that led to his location and death.

Sources say yes.

They actually used two things. The video that they taped a week or more ago gave away his location plus there was a member of his group that told Military Intelligence of the location of that meeting.

Terrorist leader or not, he was murdering scum bag that had justice coming to him.
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Actually when Bin Laden becomes a hinderence to Al Qaeda instead of an asset Al Qaeda might leak his where abouts so he too can become a Martyr.

Agreed. It will happen soon enough. Although al-Zarqawi is not being played up as a martyr at all. Even al-jazeera wrote an article that seemed very happy about his death.
 

JackStorm

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Originally posted by: daniel49
but wait!! weren't about a third of you were saying a couple of months ago that he didn't even exist??

No. Some people might have however said that he hasn't done everything he is accredited with having done.

Some crap about being a one legged man or something?

That's what the media and/or US and Iraqi intelligence said. Ironically, not long after that he was reported to have been "running" from soldiers after a gun fight broke out. That was not long after he supposedly lost the use of or injured one of his legs.

Information about him has been filled with inconsistencies from the very begining. One moment he's dead, the next he isn't. One moment he supposedly is injured or can't use one of his legs, the next he's "running" from a gun fight.

So, yeah. You'll have to excuse us for not taking Iraqi or US intelligence at it's word. Same can be said for the media. The media no longer has any real investigative reporters. Only fame and money seeking ball-less b!tches that are now spoon fed by whatever administration is in power. They wouldn't know the truth, or be interested in it, even if it jumped up and smacked them in the face. Unless, of course, there was money involved.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: JackStorm
Originally posted by: daniel49
but wait!! weren't about a third of you were saying a couple of months ago that he didn't even exist??

No. Some people might have however said that he hasn't done everything he is accredited with having done.

Some crap about being a one legged man or something?

That's what the media and/or US and Iraqi intelligence said. Ironically, not long after that he was reported to have been "running" from soldiers after a gun fight broke out. That was not long after he supposedly lost the use of or injured one of his legs.

Information about him has been filled with inconsistencies from the very begining. One moment he's dead, the next he isn't. One moment he supposedly is injured or can't use one of his legs, the next he's "running" from a gun fight.

So, yeah. You'll have to excuse us for not taking Iraqi or US intelligence at it's word. Same can be said for the media. The media no longer has any real investigative reporters. Only fame and money seeking ball-less b!tches that are now spoon fed by whatever administration is in power. They wouldn't know the truth, or be interested in it, even if it jumped up and smacked them in the face. Unless, of course, there was money involved.



He may not be a cat, but the guy sure had a lot of lives to burn through (that is if you believe the corporate media)

Al-Zarqawi is dead! - June 2, 2005 (Ramadi)

al-Zarqawi may have been killed in Mosul - Nov. 20, 2005

al-Zarqawi seriously injured may be dead! - May 11, 2005

If anyone has more feel free (mod deleted my MSNBC 2004 AZ is dead link in other thread and I cant find it now)
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
No doubt, the insurgency doesn't need Zargawi or any other leader...

The presence of the U.S. military is all the fuel it needs.



Zarqawi Scheduled for Martyrdom Link


June 7, 2006: The relationship between terrorist leader Abu Musab al Zarqawi and and the mainline al Qaeda leadership continues to deteriorate. Zarqawi's recent audio messages have not only attacked the U.S. and the Shia-dominated government in Iraq, but also Iran. He's even claiming that the U.S., Iran, and Shia in general, are in cahoots to destroy Islam. He has also called for continued attacks against Shia.

Except for his verbal attacks on the U.S. and the Iraqi government, he is almost totally distanced himself from the central leadership. Other al Qaeda leaders have been trying to down play anti-Iranian and anti-Shia rhetoric, and have been strongly discouraging attacks on civilians.

Given that Zarqawi has become a loose cannon and that his actions are handicapping Al Qaeda's efforts, it seems reasonable to expect that an accident may befall him at some point in the near future. If handled right it can be made to look like he went out in a blaze of glory fighting American troops or that he was foully murdered. Either way, al Qaeda gets rid of a problem and gains another "martyr."


Give that man a cigar, right on the mark.

Nice find!
 

TallBill

Lifer
Apr 29, 2001
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot


He may not be a cat, but the guy sure had a lot of lives to burn through (that is if you believe the corporate media)

Al-Zarqawi is dead! - June 2, 2005 (Ramadi)

al-Zarqawi may have been killed in Mosul - Nov. 20, 2005

al-Zarqawi seriously injured may be dead! - May 11, 2005

If anyone has more feel free (mod deleted my MSNBC 2004 AZ is dead link in other thread and I cant find it now)


Actually you just suck at reading. They never outright said that he was dead in any of those articles. They said it was possible each time. This time around, he IS dead.
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: JackStorm
Originally posted by: daniel49
but wait!! weren't about a third of you were saying a couple of months ago that he didn't even exist??

No. Some people might have however said that he hasn't done everything he is accredited with having done.

Some crap about being a one legged man or something?

That's what the media and/or US and Iraqi intelligence said. Ironically, not long after that he was reported to have been "running" from soldiers after a gun fight broke out. That was not long after he supposedly lost the use of or injured one of his legs.

Information about him has been filled with inconsistencies from the very begining. One moment he's dead, the next he isn't. One moment he supposedly is injured or can't use one of his legs, the next he's "running" from a gun fight.

So, yeah. You'll have to excuse us for not taking Iraqi or US intelligence at it's word. Same can be said for the media. The media no longer has any real investigative reporters. Only fame and money seeking ball-less b!tches that are now spoon fed by whatever administration is in power. They wouldn't know the truth, or be interested in it, even if it jumped up and smacked them in the face. Unless, of course, there was money involved.



He may not be a cat, but the guy sure had a lot of lives to burn through (that is if you believe the corporate media)

Al-Zarqawi is dead! - June 2, 2005 (Ramadi)

al-Zarqawi may have been killed in Mosul - Nov. 20, 2005

al-Zarqawi seriously injured may be dead! - May 11, 2005

If anyone has more feel free (mod deleted my MSNBC 2004 AZ is dead link in other thread and I cant find it now)


al-Zarqawi seriously dead, June 8, 2006

 

Steeplerot

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Nice find!

I think that was Conjur who found that and posted it on DU this morning so it is his find, but yeah this guy was spot on.
 
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